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  1. Hellfire

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    So me and my friends were having a discussion the other day and a question came up,

    Can you build a Gaming PC which will beat that of next gen consoles cheaper than the consoles cost (Less than $499/£429 inc all tax.?


    So for this one, It's simple, I have two prizes.

    Winner - is any game they wish from Steam to the value of £20.00 (or multiple games if you wish)

    Runner up prize (For the worst system build) - A copy of "Red Sabre - Takedown" that I have sitting in my Steam gift pile

    Rules
    • Must have been a member of TPU since June 2014 & have Steam
    • Required build is PC tower, Keyboard & mouse
    • Full list of build with links to prices (please also include your total)
    • you're welcome to use other currencies however I will convert the overall price into USD via XE.com
    • 1 entry per person and no editing your entries after you've submitted.
    Competition will close on the 10th August and the winners will be posted and contacted within 48 hours.

    Happy building folks!
     
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    This sounds like an interesting concept for a giveaway, and my thanks to you for hosting a giveaway!

    My question is, what standards are you going to use to judge if the build can beat the next-gen consoles?
     
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    I appreciate that and should have answered that, I apologise.

    I will base each entry on several factors.

    • How the hardware chosen in the PC build compares to that of the next gen consoles (PS4/Xbox One) in terms of power, so for example how the CPU chosen would rate against the Jaguar used in both of the next gen consoles (this includes power consumption)
    • Value for money
    • Bonus points are given for every $/£ under the budget the user gets under budget

      I am judging this myself with help from a friend, I will be using benchmarks for each component chosen (where available) but the choice is yours, go for cheap and get the bonus points for being under budget, or go for power and get the points for beating the consoles....
     
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    This is going to become a full time job for you Hellfire. Good luck. Lots of late night coffee binges going over the builds and dollar conversions. I envy you and your unmentioned friend.
     
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    Good thing I don't sleep ;)
     
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    I have came up with 2 builds. One Intel and one AMD. I will post both and you can disqualify the Intel one if it is over budget as it might be 10-20 bucks more expensive. The AMD i am sure it fits within the budget. Software not included as you didn't mention, SteamOS is free anyway. Controller not included, add $10 for some cheap ones if they are a must.

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    Thanks, Could you remove whichever one you wish not to enter, just to make it clearer for me (I'm guessing the intel one)
     
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    Here is my submission. This is what I would go with if I had to build a PC for cheaper than a console

    CPU: Intel G3258 = 75$
    Mobo: MSI H81M-P33 = 43$
    Ram: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) = 70$
    Case: NZXT Source 210 = 40$
    PSU: CORSAIR CX430 430W = 40$
    GPU: MSI R7 265 = 150$
    HD: Western Digital 500GB SATA 3 = 45$
    OS: Steam OS = Free

    TOTAL = 463$

    Links

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127790
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146075
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313344
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130731
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117374&cm_re=g3258-_-19-117-374-_-Product
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA5AD1S72114
     
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    Is it fair to use SteamOS? New Gen consoles can play AAA games but not so for most AAA games with Steam OS. It can't beat new gen consoles if it can't play most AAA games. I admit I haven't paid much attention to Steam OS so maybe I'm wrong.
     
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    That is a choice people will have to may when it comes to their builds. As I said I will take everything into consideration.
     
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    http://www.dabs.com/products/asus-amd-performance-bundle--includes-m5a78l-m-usb3--amd-fx-4300---4gb-corsair-xms3-ddr3-memory--926R.html?q=amd fx&src=16
    fx 4300 + 4gb ddr3 + asus m5a78l board £153.99 (also you get the new thief game for free)

    http://www.dabs.com/products/gigabyte-amd-radeon-7970-hd-1ghz-3gb-pci-express-3-0-hdmi-windforce-3x-7ZWZ.html?q=hd 7970&src=16#usedstock
    Gigabyte wind force 3gb hd 7970 £122.33

    http://www.dabs.com/products/evga-430w-white-80plus-certified-psu-96QG.html?q=power supply&src=16
    evga 430w modular £28.99


    http://www.dabs.com/products/zalman-cnps7x-led-cpu-cooler-9DGT.html?q=heat sink&src=16
    £23.06 zalaman heat sink

    http://www.dabs.com/products/seagat...sata-2-5--5400-rpm-hard-drive-8S08.html?src=3
    segate 500gb £31.99

    http://www.dabs.com/products/best-value-oem-717-midi-tower-with-hd-audio--no-psu--black-7XT4.html?q=pc case&src=16
    generic case £12.67

    http://www.dabs.com/products/pioneer-bdc-207dbk-8x-combo-bulk-internal-drive-8Q36.html?q=sata blu ray&src=16
    pioneer sata blue ray combo drive £39.99

    adding kb and mouse
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Standard-...ng_Keyboard_Mouse_Bundles&hash=item3cd976359f
    £5.99

    think that comes out as £418.47
    could have shoped arround.
    gonna be looking at steam os or linux for an os unless you have a key for windows.

    but thats the hardware.
    Bit unfair as the u.s have better prices than us. i probably should have gone to a usa site lol.

    thats with taxes and postage. "dabs will give free postage as all items came from there. kb and mouse was added from a ebay shop that has lots of them so i added the postage costs to that"

    personally.. id spend a bit more and do it right but as the rules were this is what you have to spend, then i think thats about what i can do without bothering to shop arround.

    As for steam os.
    provided you have a windows system some where in your house you can stream and game on the steam os so it can kind of play the best titles..
    but i dont really call that playing the best titles.

    im really not going off to shop arround though. i know i could build the same system with windows 7 for about the same price if i used a smaller hard disk got a cheaper blue ray player and maybe found some of the components cheaper els where.
    but im not going to do that lol.

    p.s

    i added a blue ray combo drive because i know thats one thing the console people always seem to mention when they try and say better hardware on the new consoles.
     
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    Thanks for the posts so far,

    May I just recommend people check that their parts fit together before listing them here.
     
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    380 euro for a build that will beat the snot out of any console out there, I should know, I've built 4 of them so far for a LAN-room.

    Though mine have SSDs and I think a mix of 750k and 760k processors.

    1 x Toshiba DT01ACA 500GB, SATA 6Gb/s (DT01ACA050)
    1 x AMD Athlon II X4 740, 4x 3.20GHz, boxed (AD740XOKHJBOX)
    1 x G.Skill RipJawsX DIMM Kit 4GB, DDR3-1866, CL9-10-9-28 (F3-14900CL9D-4GBXM)
    1 x HIS Radeon R9 280 IceQ OC, 3GB GDDR5, DVI, HDMI, 2x Mini DisplayPort (H280QC3G2M)
    1 x ASRock FM2A55M-VG3+ (90-MXGSM0-A0UAYZ)
    1 x Zalman ZM-T2 Plus
    1 x EVGA 430W ATX 2.3 (100-W1-0430-KR)
     
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    pretty sure it will al fit in what i slapped together. but specs on the psu are scetchy at best. i may go look for a better solution

    edit.

    just re aranged a few parts. now will deffinatley fit with room to spare. also has a modular psu with more than the right connections. and knocked of almost £10 in the process.

    so £10.13 or similar under budget now.
     
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  15. Kursah

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    CPU: $58.99 - Intel Pentium G3220 54W Dual Core 3.0GHz (surprisingly good chip/performer, cool running with stock cooler) - http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EF1G9DW/?tag=tec06d-20
    MB: $55.99 - ASUS H81M-K - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132052
    RAM: $35.99 - 4GB TEAM DDR3-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313265&cm_re=4GB_DDR3-_-20-313-265-_-Product
    GPU: $224.99 - MSI GTX 760 OC - http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DIH8OW8/?tag=tec06d-20
    PSU: $39.99 - EVGA 100-W1-0500-KR 500W PSU - http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00H33SFJU/?tag=tec06d-20
    HDD: $52.92 - 1TB HDD - http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EIQTOFY/?tag=tec06d-20
    CASE: $25.99 - Antec VSK-4000E - http://www.amazon.com/dp/B009LDNTOG/?tag=tec06d-20
    Cooling: $4.86 - Extra Case Fan - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...89&cm_re=120mm_fan-_-9SIA3SD1JK1589-_-Product
    OS: Ubuntu 14.04 or SteamOS

    TOTAL: $ 499.72

    All prices include shipping.

    My experience with this Intel CPU has been surprisingly good, it's snappy and does quite well. Sure it's no quad core, but it runs efficient and cool. The EVGA 500W PSU is very well built and a steal at that price, so much so I bought an extra spare after testing several for various builds.

    I was aiming mostly for GPU power here, as evident by a very overclocking friendly GTX 760 that can achieve GTX 770 performance quite easily and will have plenty of power via the PSU. The CPU should keep up just fine to ensure it's not a major bottlelneck for most games, along with being quite efficient and cool-running. The 4GB of memory may seem weak, but with budget gaming computers, it makes more sense to bulk up the GPU and PSU areas IMO than any other specific area. We know that CPU's have no issues keeping up. I just went back through a 7-year old build that hasn't been touched since I built it aside from an upgrade from an old 8800GT to GTX 260 Core 216, which killed the PSU...a GB P35-DS3L + e6750 + 4GB DDR2 800. Runs Far Cry 3 on Windows 7 quite nicely, was on XP until yesterday.

    4GB is sufficient for a starter built, make that budget $550 and more RAM would seem like the next logical step.

    The 1TB HDD is only $3-5 more than a 500GB HDD, I would have gone with an SSHD after having some experience with 3.5 and 2.5", but they mostly do good for boot times and consistent things, so if the gamer plays the same games...odds are there would have been some load time benefits...but not for an extra $30.

    The MB is a solid budget unit, and I have also built a couple budget gaming machines with great experience with this part.

    The Case is new, but fit the budget quite nicely, is clean...only has an exhaust fan though. I decided to find an extra cheap 120mm fan to add as an intake since the case only comes with one fan. This should provide ample cooling and with the parts, an extra fan really is negligible imho.

    I may donate an AMD build to this cause as well.

    Honestly budget gamers can use cheaper CPU's, 4GB of RAM, bulk up the GPU and you'll have a solid gaming machine.

    The Linux-based OS is the way to go to assure maximum hardware for this build.

    Honestly, Keyboard and Mouse should be extra and should cost closer to $50 extra for something more decent...I will try to tweak my next post to reflect that. Sorry I didn't remember that until I pressed Post... :banghead:
     
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    Do special combos count? (Like a microcenter deal?)

    EDIT: If they don't this is my final build. If they do I hope you'll accept me editing that. ;)
    http://pcpartpicker.com/p/rp67GX

    Pentium Anniversary G3258
    MSI Z87-G41 Mobo
    4 GB Corsair 1333Mhz RAM
    TOSHIBA 500GB HDD
    EVGA GTX 750
    AZZA Mid-tower ATX case (the only part I cheaped on a little)
    Rosewill 400w PSU
    Logitech k120 Keyboard
    Microsoft U7Z-00001 Wireless mouse
    Total: $359.87

    All the parts I've either used or trust completely.
     
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    If it is a deal, but available at the price it counts.

    I classed keyboard and mouse as being required as you get a controller with a console so a K/B mouse is your "controller" so to speak
     
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    ~$500 Budget Gaming PC - Kursah's Edition - 2.0

    CPU: $58.99 - Intel Pentium G3220 54W Dual Core 3.0GHz (surprisingly good chip/performer, cool running with stock cooler) - http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EF1G9DW/?tag=tec06d-20
    MB: $49.99 - MSI H81M-E33 - http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00F42W70A/?tag=tec06d-20
    RAM: $35.99 - 4GB TEAM DDR3-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313265&cm_re=4GB_DDR3-_-20-313-265-_-Product
    GPU: $229.99 - GB GTX 760 - http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JXPP9RW/?tag=tec06d-20
    PSU: $30.48 - Antec Basiq BP350 350W PSU - http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000H9J3ZC/?tag=tec06d-20
    HDD: $52.92 - Seagate 1TB HDD - http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005T3GRNW/?tag=tec06d-20
    CASE: $25.99 - Antec VSK-4000E - http://www.amazon.com/dp/B009LDNTOG/?tag=tec06d-20
    COOLING: $0.00 - OE/STOCK
    KB: $6.81 - V7 Standard USB Keyboard - http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005Y0G9ME/?tag=tec06d-20
    MOUSE: $9.99 - SHARKK Optical, 3-DPI Gaming Mouse Corded - http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00G5TDGK6/?tag=tec06d-20

    TOTAL: $501.15

    I swapped a few parts, but left the CPU intact, seeing as it's a very solid contender for budget gaming. I found a better deal on an H81M from MSI that will be more than sufficient for this build.

    I left the 4GB DDR3 intact as well. Again, should this build increase its budget to $550, that would be the first to change to 8GB.

    I also changed the GPU to a Gigabyte part, as was pointed out my last find had an MiR, which I greatly despise. I still believe this is where my build is its strongest and would be one of the best contenders here with the GPU power. Games need some decent processing power and some free RAM yes, and the basics are more than covered above...but when gaming at higher resolutions and with more settings cranked up...the GPU really needs to be potent...I think going with less than a 760 here will be disappointing in the long run...going with a 760 now will show that a budget gaming computer will DOMINATE modern consoles. Especially as SteamOS and Ubuntu continue to take a piece of the PC gaming pie.

    I left the 1TB HDD, but I fixed the link to the deal I found for it...otherwise its over $70.

    I left the case stock, and had to remove the extra cooling fan to compensate for trying to fit a keyboard and mouse in this package. Even with one exhaust fan, and the PSU acting as exhuast this system should have no issues and be pretty damn quiet overall. The CPU is powerful enough and low wattage. 760's are pretty good GPU's and the Windforce 2X cooling should do plenty even with overclocking to keep it well under control. The 3X on my 770 is kickass to say the least.

    On that note, I also changed the PSU begrudgingly...the EVGA has a 430W option too for around $35 but that just didn't get me down in the ballpark I needed to be. Enter the Antec Basic BP350. A solid little PSU that has plenty of juice for this build in stock form and enough overhead to allow for overclocking that GTX 760 to eek out even more performance. I've used quite a few of these in SoHo machines and then some of those turned into budget CAD or gaming rigs and run plenty strong...the impressive part is that the PSU keeps it's temps down pretty well..I've seen Antec PSU's blow out hoooooot air before...but this unit even when loaded to the hilt, never seems to go over luke-warm exhaust. That impressed me and makes me wonder if this unit might be underrated. If so that's better for the consumer! I feel confident that it would hold up to the task here. But should the budget increase to $550, whatever was left from doubling the RAM, would go into a slightly better PSU, like the EVGA 430W unit for less than $10 more.

    The KB and Mouse combo I created is better than the cheaper combos that would bring me right in under the $500 mark. I'm sorry, I'm $1.15 over, but it's totally worth every extra penny. The V7 keyboard is very standard affair but reviews well and is built good enough for a cheap budget standard USB keyboard. No frills, no multimedia controls...but it gets the job done in a tight spot. But the real treat here is the SHARKK mouse.

    For it's price of $9.99 right now, you can't beat it. I used to refer to a Gigabyte $15 gaming mouse, but this trumps it, hands down. 3 DPI settings, good shape, side buttons, reviews really well and would be the perfect touch to show that this system is for gaming when you take the helm after unboxing this gaming PC. Really, I could have gone with a cheaper Amazon KB + Mouse combo with a standard 3-button 1000DPI mouse...but meh. For an extra $1.15 this mouse offers so much more that one would be stupid not to seriously consider it. If I were quoting this unit for a budget build at this price-point I wouldn't allow any lesser components be used. I started an AMD build, but came up with units that couldn't beat the G3220 + H81M combo clock-for-clock. I'd rather have overall performance and efficiency than clock speeds. I am still thinking of posting an AMD build, as this is where AMD should shine...but that damn 3220 is just such a little gem of a CPU. Maybe with extra cooling and overclocking, but then a better PSU would be required...increasing costs.

    If my going just over this price by .0023% disqualifies me, so be it. As a system builder in this arena, I often get many folks that come in with a small budget and I end up ensuring they spend a little more to get a lot more in return. These builds are fun to do and change monthly...and definitely per-application. But if I were going to drop $500 on a gaming PC build with KB + Mouse today and have full confidence in its gaming abilities at 1080 resolutions and the newest games, this would be it without question....now if we could go for used parts then it would be on big-time...but that's a whole different can of worms. For a new, warrantied PC, this is my current offering from Intel/NV. Thanks for taking the time to read this.

    :toast:
     
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    you do know that $501 is more than $499
    i had to change so many things not to go over the price by £1 and be within the constraints lol..
    im calling shinnanigans!
     
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    Maybe have an allowance of ~$10 but subtract points like he adds points for under budget?
     
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    It really sucks that you gave us a registration limit. I just found this forum a few minutes ago after looking up a graphics card in some small form pc that's I found interesting. I had a really great build under $500 that could beat consoles.
    My PC costed me less than $550(not counting os price), 10x more powerful than both consoles(maybe 15x more powerful than xbox), 6 cores, runs BF4 maxed out with more than 60fps on 1080p but less than 80fps. Going to upgrade in probably 2-3 years. I sold my ps4 and am never going back to consoles.
     
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    its Rp. 8.492.000
    which is equal to 428.45GBP at the time i made this when converted

    of which i think a pretty good build for the price

    i think this build is very out of budget XD
    i thought it based on the USD or the GBP price
    so i choose the GBP price because of currency rates
    :roll:
    i didn't see the final conversion to USD on the T&C
    oh well...
     
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    Yep, covered that in the post you quoted. My choice still stands. :toast:
     
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    Well after much research and looking into many site I personally don't think you can build a pc that will beat the next gen at $499 tax all in. They buy the hardware at wholesale then sell it at a very low profit. An 8 core cpu even though low Hz will beat an Intel dual core at higher Hz (they will optimize the games for 8 cores for the console) as far as the gpu you can come close but not better. With mouse and keyboard I just don't see how you can beat them at the same cost.
    This is just my opinion I have looked and looked but can't find anything that WILL BEAT next gen.

    P.S good giveaway
     

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