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So you have not used it since 2005? It was bloated, no more.

Oh, and I think w1z should write a script that autobans anyone using M$. Really.

Bite your tounge. MSE is awesome.
 
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I got 3 free codes from work for norton 2010 ISS i never used them. i use avast personally but anyone is better then norton.

I dunno about that with McAfee, CA and AVG still around :laugh:

Yes, just send her over to this topic...

Norton sucks, get rid of it!
I have been using MSE or Vipre on a lot of machines lately and been extremely pleased, we are talking about hundreds including an old AMD XP 2000+ chip running XP on 256mb of ram... Didn't really do much to the performance and it's a LOT better than it was with Trend, let alone Norton... My lord if I had Norton installed on my i7 rig I would throw it out the window I would be so pissed at my performance or lack there of.

Sadly it doesn't even have a great detection rate, NO customer support and costs too bloody much.
 

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Bite your tounge. MSE is awesome.

I know that. I meant that he should ban anyone using the frase "M$" instead of MS. It looks retarded imo.
 
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I have always used norton. That didn't block the idea of using new antiviruses.
So i used Malwarebytes -antimalware and even it is free, i think that makes them notorious.
It is a very good (i am not saying the best, but i have not seen anything else better! :))
 

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The extreme amount of ignorance in this thread is not surprising. Norton was being praised everywhere for lightweight since two years ago.

Last time I used Norton was back in 2005 - I bought a retail copy. that was going cheap - and they deactivated my key in less then a week and all i did was install it on my PC - None of the Asians on the Norton customer service line could help. they all thought it was a bad install and i gave up repeating myself like a broken record about how my key was just blocked/blacklisted and nothing to do with a borked installation. I couldnt return it to the shop either since the seal was broken, so I just told them to stick it and never went back to using their software again. But I do know that it has definitely improved overtime 360/2010/2011 arent that resource intensive last time i checked and I have been on a lot of systems running them and it actually aint too bad at all
 

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I know that. I meant that he should ban anyone using the frase "M$" instead of MS. It looks retarded imo.

Copy that!
 
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Oh, and I think w1z should write a script that autobans anyone using M$. Really.
Lighten up. :slap:

Originally Posted by Frick
I know that. I meant that he should ban anyone using the frase "M$" instead of MS. It looks retarded imo.

I think people should be banned for using the word RETARDED before using "M$"... that would(should) offend more people...
 
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The extreme amount of ignorance in this thread is not surprising. Norton was being praised everywhere for lightweight since two years ago.

Compared to what a bulldozer dragging the moon through the ocean against the tide?

Considering I personally test a few AVs every year and currently have a copy of Norton 2010 sitting right next to me I can personally confirm that it's FAR from "lightweight"

Windows startup and shut down times are extended, software opening is extended, sure maybe it does a decent job at shutting itself down into "game mode" but it still plays a huge role in making computers all around simply slouchy.

You know a few years ago there was a plethora of people claiming CA A/V was the best thing since physics. Unfortunately it's pretty widely known among techs to be probably the single worst major commercially available A/V solution.

Want to call me ignorant, I tested it after being told they would give me the copy for free.
It was tested up against Kaspersky, CA, McAfee, NOD32, Vipre, AVG, TrendMicro, MSE, and Normon.

I tested it on numerous machines to get a general idea, ranging from P4 2.8ghz 1gb of ram Win XP, to an i3 540 4gb ram Win 7 x64, in all instances I found Norton to have the largest impact on performance among that grouping and by a fair amount may I add.

I have been and continue to remove Norton from customers computers complaining that they are performing poorly and replace it with Vipre or MSE and the problems are solved the customers are happy and that is the only change.

Sorry but you can't really refute thousands of customers on thousands of computers, first hand experience from a knowledgeable and trained person doing the work. Again as follows, these systems range from P4 2.4's with 256mb of ram to i7's with 24gb of ram, never once have I had a customer say the change was not extremely well worth it and they will NEVER go back to Norton again.

There is a reason some ISP's give it away for free, that's all it's worth, simply put nothing in the world is free and generally something that is free isn't worth the hassle.

That's my 2cents.
Next year when I do the tests again, when Norton I'm sure is said to be oooo so light weight and easy on resources... I'll post up a good and complete review with graphs showing frame rates, load times, encoding etc.
 
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My previous employer has Norton Enterprise 2010 and it's garbage. Malwarebytes was called in twice a month to remove threats which Norton missed completely. Norton blows.
 

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@niko: Thanks for that, great post. I still believe Norton is lighter than a few years back tho. Did you do the tests with AV only or the full suite?

I have to test this too.
 
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I will say MSE has one major issue, MS can use it to muck about in your system. I had MSE installed and it changed my windows update settings and it downloaded and installed updates on it's own, not updates for itself, but for windows. Wtf? I don't think any other av program would be so bold as to think that's an ok move.
 
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@niko: Thanks for that, great post. I still believe Norton is lighter than a few years back tho. Did you do the tests with AV only or the full suite?

I have to test this too.

I have tested both and yes I will agree with you on that.. Norton is a LOT lighter than it used to be... I would say it's still not up to par, but it's a lot better.

Norton also while not having the best detection rates, is far from a poor A/V in that respect.

We will see what happens, maybe they will go back to making a solid piece of software again, I certainly hope so.

Now if AMD would get the graphics drivers a little less bloated and slow... I think that's the slowest loading piece of crapware on my computer :ohwell:
 
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I will say MSE has one major issue, MS can use it to muck about in your system. I had MSE installed and it changed my windows update settings and it downloaded and installed updates on it's own, not updates for itself, but for windows. Wtf? I don't think any other av program would be so bold as to think that's an ok move.

Although I can agree and don't really like the idea at the same point don't you think MS employees and systems that analyze that data have something a bit better to do then snoop around in your personal information?

I deal with so many business, accounting, payroll, servers, etc every day. Nobody worries about me snooping through their personal information, and I don't personally want to, I'm there to accomplish a job I want to do it get paid and go home. :toast:
 

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here. Norton is not the worst, in fact it is one of the better ones in this test.

just re-posting this.

it's a test that compares AV under identical conditions on identical machines.




most of these posts are just opinion and speculation.
 
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My previous employer has Norton Enterprise 2010 and it's garbage. Malwarebytes was called in twice a month to remove threats which Norton missed completely. Norton blows.

They can't all be 100%, wish they could. In fact non of them can.

I generally scan my drives when I get the slightest bit concerned with MSE, Vipre, Nod32 and Malawarebytes, each one generally misses something.

Although I would like to know why your employers systems were getting infected so much, sounds to me like really bad network and system security.
"When thou can not trust thy employees, thou must block them from the trouble."
 
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Personal info? Who said anything about personal info? I'm saying they shouldn't be overriding your update settings and downloading crap you didn't approve.
 
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Personal info? Who said anything about personal info? I'm saying they shouldn't be overriding your update settings and downloading crap you didn't approve.

Oh sorry I must be high today or something.... Busy day not reading very well.

Yes, that is a annoying, I have recently come to notice that.
Even if you select to hide the update it just goes and gets it.
 
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Yeah as to LAN_Derf's comment I certainly don't trust MS but I don't have major AV needs (cause I'm not an idiot for starters) and I've never had an issue with MSE per se.

I also figure MS knows how to develop software for their own damn OS as well or better than anyone so...
 

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Yeah as to LAN_Derf's comment I certainly don't trust MS but I don't have major AV needs (cause I'm not an idiot for starters) and I've never had an issue with MSE per se.

I also figure MS knows how to develop software for their own damn OS as well or better than anyone so...

how sure are you?
 

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how sure are you?

Vista was not a terrible OS! Why do people keep saying it is?? It was bad for the first couple months till people realized that you cant run a 8 year old POS system on it
 

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Vista was not a terrible OS! Why do people keep saying it is?? It was bad for the first couple months till people realized that you cant run a 8 year old POS system on it

The only issue with Vista is it was a lil bloated. Win7 fixed that.
 

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Display(s) Asus XG27AQM 240Hz G-Sync Fast-IPS | Gigabyte M27Q-P 165Hz 1440P IPS | Asus 24" IPS (portrait mode)
Case Lian Li PC-011D XL | Custom cables by Cablemodz
Audio Device(s) FiiO K7 | Sennheiser HD650 + Beyerdynamic FOX Mic
Power Supply Seasonic Prime Ultra Platinum 850
Mouse Razer Viper v2 Pro
Keyboard Razer Huntsman Tournament Edition
Software Windows 11 Pro 64-Bit
The only issue with Vista is it was a lil bloated. Win7 fixed that.

i guess. i never had a problem with it since i always had a rig that could run it with ease
 

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System Name Black MC in Tokyo
Processor Ryzen 5 5600
Motherboard Asrock B450M-HDV
Cooling Be Quiet! Pure Rock 2
Memory 2 x 16GB Kingston Fury 3400mhz
Video Card(s) XFX 6950XT Speedster MERC 319
Storage Kingston A400 240GB | WD Black SN750 2TB |WD Blue 1TB x 2 | Toshiba P300 2TB | Seagate Expansion 8TB
Display(s) Samsung U32J590U 4K + BenQ GL2450HT 1080p
Case Fractal Design Define R4
Audio Device(s) Line6 UX1 + some headphones, Nektar SE61 keyboard
Power Supply Corsair RM850x v3
Mouse Logitech G602
Keyboard Cherry MX Board 1.0 TKL Brown
VR HMD Acer Mixed Reality Headset
Software Windows 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores Rimworld 4K ready!
OK, I'm running Norton 2011 AV trial (18.5.0.125) atm at I'd say it's pretty light. I've been running around in the interfaces and tools and I'm doing a full system scan and right now the services are running at about 70MB and CPU usage ranges from 10-40% on all cores. MSE is pretty much the same.

On a side note I kinda like the network map thing. There are as of yet 77 units in the network now. Fun to live in an apartment building. :p

EDIT: Ok now I'm up on 110 people on the network, I think I can sense the entire neighbourhood. :p
 
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