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I have a R7 265 that I recently removed from my system for causing failed boots. Especially after a few hours or a prolonged period of being off, the system would turn on with all fans spinning but without POST and would restart, only to run into the same symptoms. It would do this for some time (usually anywhere between 2 and 10 attempts) before successfully booting, POST and going into Windows.

I thought that it was a RAM problem. After testing, both my old 8GB and new 16GB kits do not produce the symptoms on their own. It is only when the R7 265 is in the system when this happens. I wonder if it could be a physical problem (too much PCB flex, etc. since the card's cooler is only secured with 4 screws around the Pitcairn die and it has no backplate), or possibly a VGA BIOS corruption or some other incompatibility such as UEFI. My Windows and OS X installations are both UEFI but last time I checked, GPU-Z did not indicate UEFI support on the R7 265 (checkbox next to "UEFI" was empty).

I've done some searching on Google and in other forums but it all seems that others are having PSU, motherboard and RAM problems where I'm pretty sure those three things in my PC are problem-free.
 

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Can you try a different slot?

Also, do any leds show up on the board (or beeps) when it's installed?
 

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Could be interesting if I had a Geforce card. So I don't think my R7 265 is quite suffering from this problem because once it's booted it has no problems, it's just with the boot process.

Can you try a different slot?

Also, do any leds show up on the board (or beeps) when it's installed?

It's an ITX board and there are no LEDs on the board. I don't know if I still have the mini-speaker for the SG05, I can look for it.
 

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Sorry, I was looking at your system specs... and, was not even thinking.

Do you have the option in your bios for the legacy support of non uefi devices?
Try a different video cable.
Try disabling fast boot.
 
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Sorry, I was looking at your system specs... and, was not even thinking.

Do you have the option in your bios for the legacy support of non uefi devices?
Try a different video cable.
Try disabling fast boot.

That's my bad. I have a GTX 750 Ti on the way arriving early next week.

I can't seem to find an option for supporting legacy devices? Anyhow I've always done UEFI installs of Windows and it's worked like a charm before. I've tried connecting it to my 2369VM with both DP and HDMI and they produce the same result. I don't have fast boot enabled.
 

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I believe they are listed on pages 47 and 48 of the manual.

I see the part where it allows the selection of a legacy VGA BIOS. Unfortunately, the option is only unhidden if I enable Fast Boot, which I have had disabled all this time.

It doesn't make a difference to turn on Fast Boot and change VGA BIOS to legacy.
 

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The new GTX 750 Ti came in today, and it works flawlessly. The EVGA leaflet that comes with it also does state full UEFI compatibility though, which is maybe something that the R7 265 lacked? Pitcairn is a lot older than GM107.

Thanks for the help guys.
 
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