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I don't see why not.
A single 1080 is the equivalent of 980 in SLI.

Close but from what I've seen. Two 980's beats one 1080 significantly.
Not by a huge bit but it's worth mentioning.
 
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i kind like having more power than i need.. it gives me a nice cosy feeling.. :)
Lemme guess ... when you want to feel extra cosy, you overclock them and cap the frame rate some more? Do you see what I did there? Just like you, I also made no sense :laugh:.
...
joking aside, the whole point is that you are way too cosy if SLI works and not cosy at all if SLI is not supported. Given how SLI support is spotty, you often use one GPU effectively capped to 75. So the ridiculousness here is SLI, not the cap or g-sync ... you essentially paid for flagships in SLI, just to have both cards spinning their fans slower sometimes when SLI works.

@EarthDog always gets me off topic ... I did want to say how, by the numbers, 1070 seems marginally lesser GPU compared to 1080, than 970 compared to 980 ... however thanks to the new architecture it only seems lesser in comparison, looking at benchmarks, cost per frame looks good.
 
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Seems it's going to everything I wanted to be, the only concerns for my upgrade itch is the pricing and what will Polaris look like. God, I love this time of year.

You'd be better off getting another 970, after the price drops (preferably used). You're getting comparative GTX 1080 speeds at 1440p. Unless there's some specific titles/games you use that struggle with SLI scaling, or you play a set of modified games with high VRAM usage, another 970 is an obvious move.

Pascal is clearly fantastic and the sort of improvement we've been waiting for.

How so?

  • The performance jump is no more than expected by an actual new (non rebadged) product.
  • It includes nothing of the actual Pascal features that we had hoped for
  • The 16nm isn't producing any better heat/noise/performance ratios
I'm still waiting for the Big Pascal 1080 Ti which will make both these cards look positively pedestrian. By the looks of it, just one of those will be able to do 4K at high framerates without even blinking.

The 1080 can barely manage 96fps at 1440p or 60fps at 2160p, and that's being generous.
The TI isn't going to be able to eek much more out of the architecture, unless HBM2 + Nvlink was being used, which is not happening any time soon.


The price is gonna be the big stumbling block.
For what you get, it certainly is. The 1080 is going to be another 980, overpriced.
The 1070 is another 970, good bang for buck, though without all the VRAM gimping.

I'd say 970/1070 SLI is the way forward and we'll see if and when the 1080 TI comes around, what it can do.

Im not impressed at all, bring HBM2 nothing else.

Yep, not getting the hype.

Seems too many people ate up all that Nvidia deceit at their shin dig, actually thinking that 60c at 2k+ core clock was real world and not staged.
 
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Benchmark Scores Faster than yours... I'd bet on it. :)
I think you are underestimating how the 1080ti will perform.

I also disagree about 970 SLI being the way forward, particularly because of the 3.5GB of 'full speed' VRAM at 2160p resolutions. 2460x1440, with you...though I strongly prefer a sine card solution over multi any day of the week.
 
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Lemme guess ... when you want to feel extra cosy, you overclock them and cap the frame rate some more? Do you see what I did there? Just like you, I also made no sense :laugh:.
...
joking aside, the whole point is that you are way too cosy if SLI works and not cosy at all if SLI is not supported. Given how SLI support is spotty, you often use one GPU effectively capped to 75. So the ridiculousness here is SLI, not the cap or g-sync ... you essentially paid for flagships in SLI, just to have both cards spinning their fans slower sometimes when SLI works.

@EarthDog always gets me off topic ... I did want to say how, by the numbers, 1070 seems marginally lesser GPU compared to 1080, than 970 compared to 980 ... however thanks to the new architecture it only seems lesser in comparison, looking at benchmarks, cost per frame looks good.

i did read somewhere that one game i play does not have SLI suport.. Just cause 3.. the thing is.. i didnt know this until i read it somewhere.. one advantage of having more power than you need.. even when only half your cylinders are firing your drive is still okay.. he he

so for me its cosy all the way.. i think SLI is only problematic when its needed (all the time) for fluid game play.. for me it isnt.. at the resolutions i play at i really could turn one card off and not notice with my 75 fps cap.. as it is my cards run super cool and super quiet at around 60% power and core usage.. i still aint seeing any problems doing things the way i do.. :)

but i admit to spending more money on graphics cards than i needed to.. my original pair of 970 cards did the job just fine.. next year i may do the same thing again.. waste some more money on hardware i dont f-cking need.. he he

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4k results comparing the GTX 1070 vs 980 Ti, Fury X, Fury and Nano.

Numbers from here:
http://www.hardwareunboxed.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1070-review-22-games-tested-at-1080p-1440p/

Did it mostly to check how my Nano fared against the GTX 1070, decided to include other benches as well.









The Nano reaches air Fury performance with +50% power limit increased, so moving to the GTX 1070 would be a side-grade for Nano owners (few as there may be here :D)

I would not trust that site were ever you had those from, more so Arma 3 is a near impossible to benchmark with. As AI in that game 1/2 the time do what they please.
 
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i admit to spending more money on graphics cards than i needed to.. my original pair of 970 cards did the job just fine..
Overspending on graphics cards is something we understand and that's alright ... Jen-Hsun Huang also thinks so.
 
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i just have the feeling not many think you can run a 5960x+x99+980ti with a good 500watt psu.
and even overclock it.
 

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i just have the feeling not many think you can run a 5960x+x99+980ti with a good 500watt psu.
and even overclock it.
It's possible but very tight. 980 Ti = 250-300W (OC more like 300 tops), 100-200W for the rest system, so yeah it's possible but I'd rather take a 600W PSU to be shure.
 
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You'd be better off getting another 970, after the price drops (preferably used). You're getting comparative GTX 1080 speeds at 1440p. Unless there's some specific titles/games you use that struggle with SLI scaling, or you play a set of modified games with high VRAM usage, another 970 is an obvious move.

The used market in my country is sad and I've been burnt by SLI in the past so I think I'll sway away from it :) I do intend to sell it off of at ~70% buying value and chipping in the difference. But if the RX 480 will perform better than it @ 199, I'll guess ill just have to keep it or wait for a sucker.
 
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At FE price point it was about 390/970 price/perf wise (german review site).
So, lolz.

I wonder where we are on RX 480 (229$), if it is really between 980/Fury. (worse case is C4, between 970/980)
 
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i use two but with a frame rate cap of around 75 frames per second.. i genuinely cant tell the difference using g-sync between 75 fps and 150 fps..

just for a laugh i have re-discovered the joys of playing serious sam 2.. its f-cking hilarious and my cards bang it out at around 550 frames per second..

now in your piss taking way do you think i should run this particular game at 550 frames per second or at 75..

you take the piss as regards my capping excessive power use with a frame cap but to be honest anybody that dosnt is acting pretty dumb..

i buy this sh-t cos its there not because i need it.. not running it balls out all the time is my minor concession to sensibility.. he he

i run my 165 hrz monitor at 120 hrz and cap my games to around 75 fps.. i kind like having more power than i need.. it gives me a nice cosy feeling.. :)

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The used market in my country is sad and I've been burnt by SLI in the past so I think I'll sway away from it :) I do intend to sell it off of at ~70% buying value and chipping in the difference. But if the RX 480 will perform better than it @ 199, I'll guess ill just have to keep it or wait for a sucker.

Great point about the 480, I keep thinking this round of new GPUs is Nvidia specific, when AMD might have something to throw in the mix.
 
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i just have the feeling not many think you can run a 5960x+x99+980ti with a good 500watt psu.
and even overclock it.

I would not recommended this to anyone. Not only is it a fools move but a lack of understanding of PSUs. Running a PSU at it's limit or over it will eventually kill it or worse kill other components along with it.


Before I got my 2500K I had a AMD X3 that I unlocked to X4 and overclocked to 3.5Ghz. Not too long after that I got a 560ti and also overclocked that. This was a problem, my Rosewill 530W Bronze PSU couldn't handle it, it's safety features kept shutting it off. It ran fine when the 560ti was at stock though which means I was at the 530W threshold.
 
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This may actually be the first review by Wiz that I am looking forward to (provided he puts 970 SLI figures in there).
 
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Benchmark Scores Faster than yours... I'd bet on it. :)
I would not recommended this to anyone. Not only is it a fools move but a lack of understanding of PSUs. Running a PSU at it's limit or over it will eventually kill it or worse kill other components along with it.


Before I got my 2500K I had a AMD X3 that I unlocked to X4 and overclocked to 3.5Ghz. Not too long after that I got a 560ti and also overclocked that. This was a problem, my Rosewill 530W Bronze PSU couldn't handle it, it's safety features kept shutting it off. It ran fine when the 560ti was at stock though which means I was at the 530W threshold.
it would be fine at stock speeds with a QUALITY 500W psu.

Also, any quality psu shoud be able to run at its rated output for the life of its warranty (says Oklahoma wolf). I wouldn't do that myself. But a psu should be able to out it's rating out.

In my reviews with a 980ti and 5820k, I hit around 500W at the wall with an overclocked 980ti and 5820k at 4.2ghz... so around 450W actual. At stock I was more around 400w at the wall. Plenty of headroom.
 
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I would not recommended this to anyone. Not only is it a fools move but a lack of understanding of PSUs. Running a PSU at it's limit or over it will eventually kill it or worse kill other components along with it.

says the men with a rosewill and a tuniq psu!
 
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says the men with a rosewill and a tuniq psu!

I think that sums it up nicely.

I read a review of the PSU before I bought it, it got a great score. I understand, when it comes to PSUs, people only usually like a couple brands, the loyalty is quite strong with PSUs. I will say my friend got a Corsair HX850, it died in 3 weeks and had to RMA it. The Rosewill is still going strong in someone else's PC.

Also I got the Tuniq on Newegg shell shocker for 85% off, it was too cheap to pass up. I have an Antec now though. Maybe I should update the specs.


But I digress, let's keep on topic.

It seems like, from the reviews, people are getting the same overclock as the 1080 on the 1070. One review the guy said it was a lack of voltage that was holding back the 1070 overclocks. Anyone know if AIBs ever give some of their cards more leeway with volts or is it usually the same as reference?
 
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Hmm, i would suppose my OCZ SxS II would suffice considering my GTX 660 (OC) is around same TDP as the 1070, now im curious if it could handle the OC'd 980Ti/Titan X/390X power draw
 
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Hmm, i would suppose my OCZ SxS II would suffice considering my GTX 660 (OC) is around same TDP as the 1070, now im curious if it could handle the OC'd 980Ti/Titan X/390X power draw

I'd be careful with that. The GTX 660 is a 140W TDP card with a 150W hard (BIOS) limit. The 1070 can draw more with OC versions.
 
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viperxtr: guru3d loaded you ocz 600 with qx9770+2xgtx295+nforce 790 with a lot adapters so it should do it-but this is only my opinion-a lot of peeps have problems running a 600watt psu at near its limits(like driving a car with 300hp but only using 200 just to be safe)
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/ocz_stealthxstream_2_600w_psu_review,6.html

lightningjr: i did not mean to be offensive\with every hardware you can have luck and it last a long time or not-be it expensive or not. but i personally would not push a rosewill or tuniq psu(sirfa) to its limits all day long-a seasonic with 7 years warranty i would.my2c.
but think of it how often do you use your computer at full load-me the most is during gaming so thats a few hours a week.
 
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lightningjr: i did not mean to be offensive\with every hardware you can have luck and it last a long time or not-be it expensive or not. but i personally would not push a rosewill or tuniq psu(sirfa) to its limits all day long-a seasonic with 7 years warranty i would.my2c.
but think of it how often do you use your computer at full load-me the most is during gaming so thats a few hours a week.

I'm not offended, I have just had a different experience than you I guess. While a lot of great PSUs have quite a bit of overhead when it comes to their power delivery but some of them will not allow an inch and probably for good reason. I have electrical training and I have noticed most everything has an official rating but unless it's industrial specially made components it's not rated at 100% for an extended period of time, most will recommend 80% max for 24/7 use, 95% of what you see that's allowable in the code book is rated 80%.

It seems like, from the reviews, people are getting the same overclock as the 1080 on the 1070. One review the guy said it was a lack of voltage that was holding back the 1070 overclocks. Anyone know if AIBs ever give some of their cards more leeway with volts or is it usually the same as reference?

Does anyone have any info on this, I am planning on getting a 1070 AIB card. Is it common practice for AIBs to increase the max possible voltage for overclocking? I would like to get one of those if they make em. :p :)
 
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