Sense my dad is slowly leaning towards getting some new stuff, ill probably get some headroom to buy a new dx11 gpu, and eventually sell my 2 month old bfg tech gtx 260 and evga 192 core 260 record holder What im deciding and, i already want to make a decision on is to whether buy a HD 5850 or a GTX 470 *note* I hate the 480 and its disgracing me on how terribly hot it is, ya it runs great and the gpu can take the heat, but something that hot can affect a whole system's stability in the north-bridge and heat hitting my processor so... If you can help out, posting reviews of the two cards competing with eachother. Ill call this new 300 dollar video card my downgrade/upgrade/ what i want instead of a netbook -_-. I got the cooling even if the 470 is hot, but im sorta ganna fold at least 100,000k on it if i get the 470 and itll be the bigger step to the water cooling i eventually want. I think the 470 with more newer drivers, after-market cooling, and some bios updates could be a destroyer in my opinion for 350 dollars. Looks pretty sexy to .