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GTX460 1024mb vs GTX570 1280mb
Is it worth the upgrade if SLi is not an option for you?

Hey guys, recently upgraded from a 460 to 570 so I've run them both through some paces and knocked up some graphs to show how they compare against eachother :)

Tests were done with both cards at stock speeds (note both are factory overclocked, but I have used Nvidia reference speeds as stock) and at my highest attainable rock stable overclock for both, details as follows.

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----------------Test System------------------
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AMD Phenom II X6 1090T @ 3600mhz - 3000mhz NB
Asus M4A785-M
4gb DDR2 800 @ 800mhz 4-4-4-12
LG 21.5" 1080p
Corsair CX500W
Nvidia 266.77 WHQL driver suite

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------------------The Cards---------------------
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GV-N460OC-1GI

Tested @ reference and max OC

675 core 1350 shader 3600 memory &;
900 core 1800 shader 4428 memory





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GV-N570OC-13I

Tested @ reference and max OC

732 core 1464 shader 3800 memory &;
925 core 1850 shader 4500 memory





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-------------------The Tests---------------------
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All tests ran 3 times for integrity, average of 3 runs is used
All tests are run at 1920x1080 with high AA where possible

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Bulletstorm, maximum in game settings, 1920x1080, 8xAA, 16xAF



GTX460 gains ~26% from overclock
GTX570 gains ~22% from overclock

GTX570 is ~51% faster than stock GTX460
GTX570 is ~20% faster than OC GTX460

GTX570 OC is ~84% faster than stock GTX460
GTX570 OC is ~45% faster than OC GTX460

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DMC4 benchmark, DX10, Max settings, 16xCSAA, all 4 runs averaged




GTX460 gains ~30% from overclock
GTX570 gains ~18% from overclock

GTX570 is ~65% faster than stock GTX460
GTX570 is ~27% faster than OC GTX460

GTX570 OC is ~94% faster than stock GTX460
GTX570 OC is ~50% faster than OC GTX460

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Unigine Heaven 2.5, Tessellation Extreme, 4xAA, 16xAF
shaders/textures high, Occlusion/Refraction/Volumetric enabled.




GTX460 gains ~32% from overclock
GTX570 gains ~23% from overclock

GTX570 is ~71% faster than stock GTX460
GTX570 is ~30% faster than OC GTX460

GTX570 OC is ~110% faster than stock GTX460
GTX570 OC is ~60% faster than OC GTX460

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3Dmark Vantage custom, extreme preset but @ 1080P, GPU score.




GTX460 gains ~33% from overclock
GTX570 gains ~24% from overclock

GTX570 is ~62% faster than stock GTX460
GTX570 is ~22% faster than OC GTX460

GTX570 OC is ~102% faster than stock GTX460
GTX570 OC is ~51% faster than OC GTX460

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Crysis Warhead
, DirectX 10 ENTHUSIAST 3X @ Map: ambush @ 0 1920 x 1080 AA 4x 64-bit.




GTX460 gains ~31% from overclock
GTX570 gains ~24% from overclock

GTX570 is ~53% faster than stock GTX460
GTX570 is ~17% faster than OC GTX460

GTX570 OC is ~87% faster than stock GTX460
GTX570 OC is ~43% faster than OC GTX460

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AVP Benchmark;

Texture Quality: 3
Shadow Quality: 3
Anisotropic Filtering: 16
SSAO: ON
Vertical Sync: OFF
DX11 Tessellation: ON
DX11 Advanced Shadows: ON
DX11 MSAA Samples: 4



GTX460 gains ~31% from overclock
GTX570 gains ~23% from overclock

GTX570 is ~57% faster than stock GTX460
GTX570 is ~21% faster than OC GTX460

GTX570 OC is ~92% faster than stock GTX460
GTX570 OC is ~49% faster than OC GTX460

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-------------------Summary---------------------
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Well to wrap it all off, naturally the GTX570 is considerably faster than a GTX460. when comparing at reference speeds, you can expect a GTX570 to be anywhere between 50-70% faster than a GTX460. this figure will probably sit closer to 50% given the sheer amount of pre overclocked GTX460's that were available at the time. if you took the time to tweak your GTX460 to around 850-900+ mhz on the core, a stock GTX570 will only represent around ~30% more performance.

Things quickly turn around in favor of the GTX570 when you begin to overclock it. the overclocked GTX570 weighed in 80-110% faster than a stock GTX460, as good as double. even if your GTX460 was highly overclocked as mine is, a nicely overclocked GTX570 will still represent around 50% more performance on the whole, which is a lot of GPU power alright.

I feel this really goes to show that a hec of a lot of extra performance can be had from overclocking your gfx card (thank you MSI Afterburner). on average the GTX460 picked up about ~30% more performance, pushing it right up to GTX560Ti levels, not bad for a couple of hours work - sometimes not even. the GTX570 also gains very well from overclocking, boasting a nice 20-25% more performance, pushing it right up to GTX580 territory for a lot less money.

If you are overclocking your gfx cards, I urge you to be patient, and keep in mind that every single card overclocks to a different extent. Once you find the absolute maximum that the card can stably benchmark and run all of your favorite games at, back the speed down at least 10mhz (I recommend about 25mhz or so) to ensure stability and longevity. this applies to both core and memory speeds, nobody likes a dead card.

well thanks for reading and thanks for the encouragement (you know who you are) to knock up this little comparison. I'm more than happy to add benchmarks over the next few days too, but my internet here is slow so please be patient if the bench you suggested is a large download.

P.S. Yes I love Gigabyte non reference (ultra durable) cards! they run cool and use great components, whats not to like! every one I've had so far (ATi cards inclusive) have all overclocked great too. the best part about it is Gigabyte charge hardly any premium over a reference card.

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Good review, even though the results would have been the same (meaning, 570 > 460), I think a few more games would have made it better. :toast:

Oh, also, I don't think you need this line, as you already said all the runs were averaged. It is from the text regarding DMC4.

all 4 runs averaged

Just my 2 cents
 

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*takes a look at the GTX460* *Takes a look at GTX570* *Notices that GTX570 has 3 fans, GTX460 has 2* *Concludes that GTX570 is 50% faster thatn GTX460*. OMG I am right!

Your bench largely confirms with W1zzard's review, and it would be nice to show the temps too.
 

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a few more games would have made it better

happy to hear suggestions and I'll run the benches and add them to post #1 :)

Oh, also, I don't think you need this line

with that I only added it because DMC4 runs 4 separate scenes, of which I averaged the scores, and ran the lot 3 times over :)

:toast: for the feedback :)

*takes a look at the GTX460* *Takes a look at GTX570* *Notices that GTX570 has 3 fans, GTX460 has 2* *Concludes that GTX570 is 50% faster thatn GTX460*. OMG I am right!

LOL not a bad conclusion at all! superfluous tests FTW.

Your bench largely confirms with W1zzard's review, and it would be nice to show the temps too.

see temps wont be as accurate as they could be, as I use a custom fan ramp in MSI afterburner for both cards designed to keep them both around 60-65 degrees under load. all I can say for both is to keep those temps, the fan's really dont need to spin up very fast, about 50-52% on the GTX570, and ~60% on the GTX460.
 
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Good comparison. Are you trying to enter into the world of graphics cards reviews like wiz, or was this just for kicks and giggles?
 
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happy to hear suggestions and I'll run the benches and add them to post #1 :)



with that I only added it because DMC4 runs 4 separate scenes, of which I averaged the scores, and ran the lot 3 times over :)

:toast: for the feedback :)

Well what games do you have? Perhaps some more recent games, like Portal 2 (if you have it), and maybe throw in Starcraft 2. And all graphics card reviews must have Crysis! :p Ultimately depends on what games are available to you.
 

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Good comparison. Are you trying to enter into the world of graphics cards reviews like wiz, or was this just for kicks and giggles?

oh just kicks and giggles, it's not the first one I've done tho, I just enjoy a hefty benchmark session from time to time.

my last was SLi vs CF scaling with GT200 and RV770. but I've done a few check em out if you want.

GTX285 vs 5870 vs 5870+5850 - http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?t=116346

GT200 VS RV770 on i7, how well do they scale? - http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?t=101733

My first GFX card review, kind of. - http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95868

Well what games do you have? Perhaps some more recent games, like Portal 2 (if you have it), and maybe throw in Starcraft 2. And all graphics card reviews must have Crysis! :p Ultimately depends on what games are available to you.

I have Crysis and warhead, AVP, but it has no inbuilt benchmark, SF4 Bench, 3dmark 06/11 (is is free edition only), BF BC2, Dirt2... theres more....
 
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Isn't there a crysis benchmarking tool? I thought there was, so you be able to get some benchmarks for that game.

While this is probably not helpful, all I will say is use the games that are available to you and that will be relatively easy for you to benchmark. I would love to see more games and I imagine others would too, but we're not the ones doing benchmarking, so do what you deem to be worth your time.
 
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Good review, coming from 460 and trying to find a GTX 570 myself but they all break the $300 price barrier which to me isn't justified if you can get 2x 460 SLI for $150 each.
 

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Isn't there a crysis benchmarking tool? I thought there was, so you be able to get some benchmarks for that game.

While this is probably not helpful, all I will say is use the games that are available to you and that will be relatively easy for you to benchmark. I would love to see more games and I imagine others would too, but we're not the ones doing benchmarking, so do what you deem to be worth your time.

at this stage I can throw in Crysis Warhead and Dirt2 pretty easily, working on that now :) thanks again for the input.

Good review, coming from 460 and trying to find a GTX 570 myself but they all break the $300 price barrier which to me isn't justified if you can get 2x 460 SLI for $150 each.

I hear the argument for that loud and clear, my purchasing decision was based on the fact that I'd need a new board for SLi, which would also mean new RAM, and most likely a more powerfull PSU. for me another Gigabyte GTX460 was about 160 Euro, but the board, PSU and ram put me well over 400 Euro for the lot.
 
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Cool read, nice work :)
 

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thanks sno.lcn!

original post now updated with 50% more benchmarks! :laugh:

Crysis Warhead and AVP benchmarks added to the suite.
 
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Nice review bro, wish I had the motivation to do a review like that:toast:
 

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No offense but theres only one issue I see. What are you trying to prove with this review? I mean nearly every end user knows a gtx570 is a s&^t ton faster than a gtx460. I will say this, thank you for the review though, I will use it as some good info! :)
 

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Nice review bro, wish I had the motivation to do a review like that:toast:

lol it took a fair bit of motivation really, cheers! :toast:

No offense but theres only one issue I see. What are you trying to prove with this review? I mean nearly every end user knows a gtx570 is a s&^t ton faster than a gtx460. I will say this, thank for the review though, I will use it as some good info! :)

naturally it is crap loads faster, but I was more into the overclocking side of things, and what there is to gain from it all. basically whether overclocking particular lesser cards can get them up to equal faster ones. I'm sure it would have been a lot closer against a GTX470. I think it's good numbers to have for someone with a single GTX460 thinking of upgrading. also just because I love crunching the numbers and it seemed like an interesting waste of time :)

thanks for the feedback bud! :cool:
 
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good review I would've like to have seen something like bang for buck or something along those lines.
 

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good review I would've like to have seen something like bang for buck or something along those lines.

nice idea, I'll see what I can do to knock up some FPS per $, or € as it were. not tonight tho :p
 

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naturally it is crap loads faster, but I was more into the overclocking side of things, and what there is to gain from it all. basically whether overclocking particular lesser cards can get them up to equal faster ones. I'm sure it would have been a lot closer against a GTX470. I think it's good numbers to have for someone with a single GTX460 thinking of upgrading. also just because I love crunching the numbers and it seemed like an interesting waste of time :)

thanks for the feedback bud! :cool:

You yourself know, it's just constructive criticism. Now what I need to see is a 460 SLI vs. 570 review. As you know both configurations cost nearly the same. If I put some thought to it, the 460 SLI configuration SHOULD perform about 25% better (stock clock comparison).
 

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You yourself know, it's just constructive criticism. Now what I need to see is a 460 SLI vs. 570 review. As you know both configurations cost nearly the same. If I put some thought to it, the 460 SLI configuration SHOULD perform about 25% better (stock clock comparison).

constructive criticism much appreciated :) I'd like to see some numbers from the SLi clubhouse (460's) so I can compare against my results.

Wow, I think I found my next card

the GTX570 is one hell of a card.

Also, Original post updated/edited once again, posted pics of my actual cards together, and GPU-Z screenshots showing reference and OC speeds, and they show the pre-overclocked speeds that Gigabyte ship these cards with. I plan on another update soon with temperatures in stock and OC form with the fan on auto.
 
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No way the faster more expensive card is.. well faster!

I dont get the point of this.
 

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No way the faster more expensive card is.. well faster!

I dont get the point of this.

Is it worth the upgrade if SLi is not an option for you?

1. a fun waste of time IMO
2. upgrade path with no SLi option
3. just how much faster is it?
 

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I dont get the point of this.

Because:

No way the faster more expensive card is.. well faster!

It's a given that a newer, higher specced card will be faster - but "faster" is not quantitative.

Faster by X compared to Y is much more informative than "it's faster".


Mini bench/reviews by 'non-professionals/average users' (no offence wolf) can sometimes be just as valid as 'proper' benchmark/review sites.

This could be be useful for someone who has an older card like the 460 and is wondering if an upgrade to a 570 is actually worth it.
 

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It should have been GTX460 v/s GTX560 not this
 

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