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its been updated. Its now ahead of shadowplay

crossfire/sli support, 20 minute cache, windowed support.

Full AMD and Nvidia support.
 
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What I dislike the most about AMD is the fucking CCC. It's an abomination of software (well, not as horrifying as other stuff but almost). Slow, useless, annoying as hell, user unfriendly.

If only the author of RadeonPro didn't abandon it...
 
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I don't really have a valid opinion on this.
I've owned 4 nvidia cards among dozens of ATI/AMD and I have always prefered ATI/AMD...not because of good drivers or bad but because I am stuck in my ways...
I drink Pepsi, wear Levi's and always buy ATI/AMD....
I can't wait until the GFX is looked at like Audio-File components on the PC and I'll just stick with the same crap until its finally over...

So my point is, get whatever crap you are already used to and stay happy.
 

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What I dislike the most about AMD is the fucking CCC. It's an abomination of software (well, not as horrifying as other stuff but almost). Slow, useless, annoying as hell, user unfriendly.

If only the author of RadeonPro didn't abandon it...


when did you last use it? i've got no problems at all with speed or usability in it these days, and a lot of features have been slowly added in over the years with a lot of people failing to notice (per game profiles, is a common one)
 
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What I dislike the most about AMD is the fucking CCC. It's an abomination of software (well, not as horrifying as other stuff but almost). Slow, useless, annoying as hell, user unfriendly.

If only the author of RadeonPro didn't abandon it...

yeah, i have the same experience. CCC often makes me mad since today it works well but tomorrow it refuse to run at all, reinstalling would end the same
personally for the hardware and performance is OK
 

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yeah, i have the same experience. CCC often makes me mad since today it works well but tomorrow it refuse to run at all, reinstalling would end the same
personally for the hardware and performance is OK


I've gotta say thats weird, unless you've got another app conflicting that i've never experienced.

my desktops (i've changed mobo + OS three times this year) my laptop three times (W7/8.0/8.1) and my fiancees desktop with her trusty 5830 just gets driver updates slapped over the top, and with the exception of the odd startup delay its never failed to open, and its never crashed.
 
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I've gotta say thats weird, unless you've got another app conflicting that i've never experienced.

my desktops (i've changed mobo + OS three times this year) my laptop three times (W7/8.0/8.1) and my fiancees desktop with her trusty 5830 just gets driver updates slapped over the top, and with the exception of the odd startup delay its never failed to open, and its never crashed.

yeah, different version doesnt help at all, it always run perfect at the first time but suddenly stop working and i dunno why
than spinning my head i use nvidia right now
 

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yeah, different version doesnt help at all, it always run perfect at the first time but suddenly stop working and i dunno why
than spinning my head i use nvidia right now


do you tweak windows services?
 
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do you tweak windows services?

yeah, i just turn off some that i dont need it. but any services that related to CCC are running
sometimes CCC just crash without any sign
 

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yeah, i just turn off some that i dont need it. but any services that related to CCC are running
sometimes CCC just crash without any sign


to be honest, thats highly likely the cause. you've disabled something indirectly related to it.
 
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to be honest, thats highly likely the cause. you've disabled something indirectly related to it.

yeah could be, i may return to AMD again after doing clean install and downloading newest driver. hope it all will be OK
 
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It's not that CCC doesn't work. It does. But it's absolute pain in the sore asshole to work with. It's fairly counter intuitive with butt-ugly slow useless UI with little to no (useful) options.
 
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It's not that CCC doesn't work. It does. But it's absolute pain in the sore asshole to work with. It's fairly counter intuitive with butt-ugly slow useless UI with little to no (useful) options.

Can you validate your claims? pretty sure CCC stopped being "slow" in 2008 and it's hardly counter intuitive, take NV Cpanel multi-monitor/SLI tabs for instance.
 

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It's not that CCC doesn't work. It does. But it's absolute pain in the sore asshole to work with. It's fairly counter intuitive with butt-ugly slow useless UI with little to no (useful) options.


i find the current nvidia drivers a lot slower to use, with more settings placed in less intuitive places. personal preference isnt really what this thread is about.
 
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Can you validate your claims? pretty sure CCC stopped being "slow" in 2008 and it's hardly counter intuitive, take NV Cpanel multi-monitor/SLI tabs for instance.
How do you mean, validate? That's how I feel about it. I'm sure some people find it great. Good for them. I don't.
Maybe it's not as slow as it was 2 years ago (I guess the horrible memories remain and affect the present), but the rest is how I said.

No idea about nVidia, last card from them I had was GeForce 4200 Ti, which I unfortunately, in my eternal clumsiness and stupidity, burned to ashes by touching it with nail clipper (don't ask me why, I don't remember, lol).
If it's even worse there, then I pity the people who have the cards. Ugh.
 

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I've gone back and forth from a Ti 4200 on an AMD CPU rig, to the X800XT and X1950Pro on an Intel P4 rig, to a GTS 250 then my current HD7970 on my latest i7 950 rig.

The X800XT and X1950Pro series had their driver pains, and I was a bit miffed that the X1950Pro shortly after getting it was relegated to Legacy driver support. That's partly me buying very late in the model cycle, but it's worth mentioning that others with just as old if not older Nvidia GPUs at the time were not having problems with driver support. With Nvidia it wasn't so much about individualized software support as their older GPU architecture being more compatible than ATI's was with newer drivers I think. So you got more trouble free life out of them.

Lately though, as mentioned, AMD's drivers are just as good, sometimes depending on the game, even better at launch than Nvidia's. When I first got my 7970, AMD was releasing new drivers like candy every 1 to 3 months. Now they release less often and usually only include support for the newest GPUs or APUs, or have Crossfire performance gains on certain games.

What worries me is with AMD's tight budget and recent HUGE staff cuts, this focus on new GPUs and Crossfire has them neglecting to look for performance gains and driver fixes with older model single GPU performance, even on major titles.

On capture support, ShadowPlay is ahead of Raptr's Game DVR on features and performance, but Game DVR is still in beta. One of the key differences is Game DVR can record only half the chached gameplay of ShadowPlay's 20 minutes, and let's face it, the caching is THE unique and convenient feature in these tools.

ShadowPlay is also still in beta.
 

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i find the current nvidia drivers a lot slower to use, with more settings placed in less intuitive places. personal preference isnt really what this thread is about.

Id love to see a complete GUI overall of the Nvidia Control Panel. Its been the same thing for years!
 
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its been updated. Its now ahead of shadowplay

crossfire/sli support, 20 minute cache, windowed support.

Full AMD and Nvidia support.
Hmmm, apparently they finally listened to me then. I was the only one on their Raptr Game DVR forum repeatedly requesting 20 min cache time.

The only question that remains for me, and I can't test for it since I don't have a Shadowplay compatible GPU, is whether Shadowplay detects or searches for games any better than Game DVR? I and some others on the Raptr forum have had a lot of games not auto detect or manually add to the list.
 
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Id love to see a complete GUI overall of the Nvidia Control Panel. Its been the same thing for years!
NO! Heck NO! If it isn't broke, don't fix it.
 

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NO! Heck NO! If it isn't broke, don't fix it.
I agree unless everything is working flawlessly and they have nothing better to do, but it better not roll unless it's rock solid. :)
 
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I agree unless everything is working flawlessly and they have nothing better to do, but it better not roll unless it's rock solid. :)

In that case they would essentially end up reskinning the application and moving controls around ... not necessary at all
 
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AMD drivers are more mature than they were 4-5 years ago when I had a lot of problems with them. I ended up selling my AMD based GPUs and going with NVIDIA for quite a while.
Now I use both without any real issues.

They have come a long way in a short time. Using only WHQL drivers is a good idea.

exact;y and i to only stick to the WHQLs now its looking like im gonna go back to a ATI for second time in my life, problem now that i keep reading about over heat for the atis so the 290x looks like a good deal but seems like a lot of owners had to RMA theirs 3 or 4 time and heat is the problem and then u have to get a asus rog for 600 and then u might as well get 780ti. Feel like shooting myself already in the 400-450 range does anyone one know the better card to get that 770

thanks
 
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I have GTX-570s in SLI & GTX-680s in SLI.
I also have R9-280X OCs in Crossfire.

The 570s seem a little slow compared to the others, but they're not really.
I really like the R9-280X cards. Even one alone is pretty potent. They're 3GB cards and the 680s are 2GB cards, so they are a little faster.
 
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