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  1. Truquitos New Member

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    Hello guys!, im new to the forum but in past few months i have been reading and researching about whats good out there, then i found this website and i will love some help from you guys. my old sony pc is really slow and i always wanted to build my own computer; computer is something that i really like, so now its the time to to this. this is my first build. i want a system that will do anything that i throw at it with no problem, and something that will last me a few years. i want quality parts, the best quality my budget can allow. thank you guys

    1 Case - Corsair Obsidian Series 800D
    Corsair Obsidian Series 800D CC800DW Black Aluminu...

    2 Mobo - ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe LGA 1155 Intel Z68
    ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe LGA 1155 Intel Z68 SATA 6Gb/s US...

    OR

    ASRock Z68 PROFESSIONAL GEN3
    ASRock Z68 PROFESSIONAL GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HD...

    3 CPU - Core i7-2600K
    Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Tu...

    4 CPU Cooler - Corsair H80
    CORSAIR H80 (CWCH80) High Performance Liquid CPU C...

    5 CPU paste - Shin-Etsu X23-7783D Thermal Compound
    http://www.petrastechshop.com/shx2thco1gr.html

    6 Power Supply - Corsair HX850 850W
    CORSAIR Professional Series HX850 (CMPSU-850HX) 85...

    7 Memory - CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) ** Cas Latency 9
    CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRA...

    OR
    G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB
    G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DD...

    8 HDD - (OS) Crucial M4 CT064M4SSD2 2.5" 64GB SATA III MLC
    (files) Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB


    9- Video Card - MSI R6970 Lightning Radeon HD 6970 2GB
    MSI R6970 Lightning Radeon HD 6970 2GB 256-bit GDD...

    OR

    EVGA SuperClocked 012-P3-1572-AR GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB
    EVGA SuperClocked 012-P3-1572-AR GeForce GTX 570 (...

    ** later in 1 month im planning to buy a second one of the one you guys help me choose.**


    10 Blu Ray Drive - LITE-ON Black 12X BD-R 2X BD-RE 16X DVD+R 12X DVD-RAM 8X BD-ROM 8MB Cache SATA
    LITE-ON Black 12X BD-R 2X BD-RE 16X DVD+R 12X DVD-...

    11 Fans, (if needed) - 4X Scythe Gentle Typhoon 120mm
    - 2X XIGMATEK Cooling System XLF XLF-F1453 140mm LED Orange
    - 2X CoolerMaster Excalibur 120mm(For H80)
    12- Media Reader - Koutech IO-RCM630

    13 Fan Controller - NZXT Sentry 2
    NZXT Sentry-2 5.25" Touch Screen fan controller

    ** any help or tip will be appreciate. thank you for all your help**

    i already have speakers, keyboard and mouse. websites can be newegg, tigerdirect, amazon or any reputable website. later i will buy a second video card from the one you help me choose to do a SLI or crossfire, i will be using my 58inch TV as a monitor once in a while. i will love to learn and overclock this processor. any questions please don't hesitate. thanks
     
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    Welcome, Nice parts list. It all looks good. Personally I would get a Gigabyte board just because Ive had good luck with them. I would use the stock HS fan at first and one of the HD6970 would suffice. IMO What else do you do besides game? What resolutions will you be using?
     
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    As usual, what do you want to use this computer for?

    If gaming, then:
    Drop processor to 2500K
    Drop the H80 to something more sensible (eg Hyper 212+) if you are not heavily overclocking, but if you want quiet its fine
    Drop memory to 2x4gb or 2x2gb, you dont need so much
    Graphics card is really personal, but I suggest you take a look at GTX580 for single card solution rather than multiple cards, since that this is your first build and it will save you quite a bit of hassle if problems arise
    I personally find the 800D too expensive, but that is personal, and since that cases last practically forever (until ATX gets out of fashion) there is no need to "downgrade" this

    Use money saved for a potential 2nd GTX580 down the line, or lots of beers.
     
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    Thanks for your answer. So, what mobo do you recommend? I like the corsair h80 because is a good water cooling for novice like me and I will overclock the i7 and want a really nice temp for it. My current monitor is a 21.5inch 1080p, nothing fancy. But I will be gaming a few , Also I will use my plasma tv 58inch as a monitor once in a while to watch movies etc.
     
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    I want this rig to last a long time. So that's why I went with a i7, I know there is no much difference between the i5 and i7 but just for future proof a little I will stick with the i7. Also I'm planning on oc, I want something around 4 to 4.8Ghz, that's why the corsair H80, water cooling is kind of hard for me and I don't wanna mess something up. Maybe later. Like I said, I want this to last a little, and I will be using a plasma tv 58 inch for blu ray, multitasking, hd streaming, overall I want this rig to do everything like nothing is happening. For the GTX580 that's kind of expensive so that's why I opted for one of those video card and then a second one. But what do you think? Thanks for your help
     
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    How long do you want your rig to last? 1 year? 5 years? Right now gaming hardly use more than 2 threads, and the only few which does can only load up to 4, in other words, 8 threads are still unnecessary. I can confidently say that this pattern will continue for the next few years, at least as long as the current console generation. If you really want the 2600K there is no point me talking you down, just get it.

    If you want the 6970 its fine, the difference between 580 and 6970 price point wise is somewhat personal. If I am going for 2600K, then I will choose 580, and 2500K 6970. Do note that 58" TV uses the same amount of graphics power as a 13" screen if their resolution is the same, so its pointless to quote your screen size, but rather screen resolution when it comes to choosing graphics card.
     
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    GIGABYTE GA-Z68XP-UD5 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA...


    GIGABYTE GA-Z68XP-UD4 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA...
     
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    i want my rig to last at least 5 years, in a good shape. i probably will build another before te 5 years period but im not sure at the moment. i can get the i7 2600K almost at the same price from a close friend. but do you think the i wont see a difference in the long run if i go with the i5, i know everything now will be a big impact because im on a slow Pentium 4.
    also if it were you, why would you opted for a GTX580 and no a 6970? i went with the 6970 because i want to CrossFire later and try that new technology. also the GTX is around 500-600 while the 6970 is cheaper and a good competitor in my novice point of view. i will definitely buy a better monitor later on, any recommendation on something really good?
    THANK YOU for all your help.
     
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    ok im a little confused now, so which one you think is a better thermal paste? also i will take a look a those later tonight after work and i will do a research. thank you
     
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    i say go for it, especially if the price is similar. Fourstaff is surely right but it's clear how important this is - for anything under $60 difference i would opt for the more powerful one, then you feel confident and happy. even if the i5 never caused problems the question alone might lessen your experience:)
     
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    Thermal paste is really not worth bothering, just get something which is not junk, the application matters more for the temp difference than the different TIM, the temperature difference is less than 3C at most between the best and your average branded ones.

    If you want your rig to last for 5 years, 2600K is a fair choice. Also, Newegg price difference between 6970 and 580 is about $100 the last time I checked, $300 for 6970 and $400 for 580. As said earlier, this becomes a personal preference, I am willing to spend the $100 for that extra 10%, not everybody will, just like how you are willing to spend the extra $100 for 2600K over 2500K because of potential future performance gains.

    I would also avoid Gigabyte mobo for the time being, the reviews for their UEFI functionality is not stellar. I would pick MSI Gxx series or AsRock Extreme series instead, but again, this is personal. There is nothing wrong going for other manufacturers, my only problem is with EVGA who somehow have managed to blotch their 1156 and 1155 motherboards despite coming out of 1366 as a reputable motherboard maker.
     
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    so i will go with the GTX 580, what vendor do you think is good and 1.5GB of VRAM or what? also from my choices what mobo will you choose, or you got another great mobo recommendation?
     
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    Nice parts list. [​IMG]
     
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    So guys I will stick with the gtx 580, do you think my corsair hx850 will handle 2 of those? Also what board should I go with? Like I said I want to overclock my CPU, I'm aiming at 4.5 - 4.8GHz.
    Also from the memory I will go with 8GB so which one is best, the corsair or the G.skill. Thanks
     
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    2X XIGMATEK Cooling System XLF XLF-F1453 140mm LED Orange
    They suck...Got 1 (had 2) of em that are turned off cause when they are on they are all I can hear...way louder than the <16 db that is advertised..

    Actually come to think of it...Ive pulled all of my Xiggy fans (except the top 140mm fan) and replaced em with Scythe fans that are actually as quite as they are advertised.
     
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    Hi! Thank you for your help. So which fan you think will perform better? I actually pick these 2 because they look cool when ON, almos like red.
     
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    If you already have it, yep, it can. As you can see, an OCed i7 Bloomfield system with CCFLs and such peaked to 719W from the wall (AC power); running FurMark...

    http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-580-sli-review/14

    which should equate to say 650W of DC power. Considering FurMark not only gets full multi-GPU scaling, but also loads up cards up to at least 50W more, games will pull less power, especially on a more efficient system. So you are looking at 600W or so continuous power with that system. While a 850W unit can handle it, I would not buy a HX850 anymore. It is based on an older design with no fins on heatsinks. Tops out at 70C, less reliable. I would shoot for an another unit.
     
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    1.5GB is enough.

    Either motherboard is fine, but I will probably go for something a bit cheaper because you wouldn't need all those functionality.
     
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    good looking build mate, although if you haven't already bought the psu i would opt for the HX1000. 850 will be working with 2 580's and oc'd cpu.

    To hell with sticking with the stock heatsink, the corsair H series are great and easy to install, a good option.

    The asrock boards are good but I am a gb boy, never had a problem with gb but i have heard good things about asrock. The Z68 is a good chipset.

    16gb of ram is a little overkill. I would go for a better 4gb or 8gb (at most) set of ram. The i7 will benefit from higher freq ram. Try to find a good 2000+ mhz kit, for example:

    G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR...

    I would also try to budget in a 120gb SSD. 60gb is ok but once you get OS and a couple of games on its full. 120 will give you a bit more breathing space. :)

    Looking like a sweet build though, should easily come in under budget.
     
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    Going above 1600Mhz leads to almost negligible gains for Sandy Bridge, so I would not be bothered with 2000Mhz kit. AMD likes their ram fast and tight though, so going that high would be sensible.
     
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    I understand. So, what psu do you redommend? Or any list of the newest psu that perform similar to the HX850? Because the HX859 is a excellent psu alot of reviewers said.thanks
     
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    Ok, so what mobo do you recommend? I need something reliable that will let me oc my processor to a decent stage and also is great for connectivity, you know, SATA 6gbs etc. Fan connector. Thank you
     
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