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House Bill 1022

Discussion in 'General Nonsense' started by Tomcat81970, Dec 29, 2008.

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Do you agree with this Bill?

  1. Yes! Guns are pure EVIL!

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  2. NO! Guns dont kill people, People kill People!

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  3. Dont think it will pass and/or dont care

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  1. Snipermonkey2

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    buy what you can and load up on ammo or find some who would pack for you.
     
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    i have a specially modified airsoft pistol for training reasons. so far ive found it to be useful, but until i can get something real to hold up the 12ga is to bulky for home use, i m just stuck with that.
     
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    if you practice enough with a 12ga it really works well. i am shopping around look for a different stock for mine. the remington 870 has so many options since it is issued to law enforcement also.
     
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    mine is a hand me down sears and roebuck shotgun, but its modeled after the Winchester 1200.

    I want to collect guns as well. like this M1 Garand i am working on getting.
     
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    The M1 Garand is a very nice gun, but if I were looking to buy more I would try to get some thing more "functional".
     
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    explain functional?, my grand uncle used it on both Iwo Jima and Okinawa, he said you could kill 3 Japanese solder with one bullet in the jungles. He used a 30cal machine gun on Guadalcanal. Anyways, he said that the gun will never fail you even under the most harsh of conditions. It was the most realiable weapon he ever fielded as a Marine. My poppop also used the gun in Korea, also with a BAR. he said the M1 could stop a Chinese soldier from 350 yards, even with all of the clothing the Chinese wore. and he said if the bolt ever froze up on you because of the cold to just piss on it and the bold will thaw out. He ended up switching out the Grand for the BAR because he said at the Chosen Resovir the Chinese would come in waves and you needed volume to stop the enemy. that and he ran out of bandoleers.
     
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    My idea of "Functional" is that it must be easy to operate in a urban environment.
     
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    then you would want something like my uncles Mini-14, or his MP-5,

    M1-Garands can be used in an urban environment, at least i know i can go through walls. lol
     
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    Very true, but they are heavy and long. I have a nice spanish mauser that shoots .308 which is a great round but it is still poor for my idea of functional.
     
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    i do simulated CQB all the time in airsoft. and im used to carrying around either my M1-Garan or my M-14, both of which are about 48inches long,a nd about 10lbs each. goign around doors and through hallways can suck, but i just don't like the short carbines, athough i though about building a m1 carbine from an el chepo AGM M14 or something.

    i love woodlands combat though. my friends and i are specialist in this arean, woodlands fighting is fun, better then cqb imo.
     
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    I'm not saying get a carbine but they are cheap and fun. Though they're companies that make some very good bullpup design rifles that shoot .223. I just saw a nice bullpup at the gun show on Saturday for only $650 which is a great buy.
     
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    yea i agree, But for me a gun is more then a weapons, its a peace of history, molded from iron and wood. A weapons with a walnut stock not synthetic. to me a gun is something that shows life and takes on a life of its own. To me that's my definition of a gun.
     
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    Oh trust me I love the classics also. That is why I purchased the mauser. That gun has been through hell and back.
     
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    any history on the mauser? The guy im buying the M1 Garand from also has 2 mauser's. on is an import and the other a GI take back. I might also see if i can get one of those as well, but he doesn't seem to want to sell them.
     
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    I know mine had to see some combat at some point because the Spanish Mauser was originally a 7mm but sometime in the 1900's a major amount of them were rebored to .308 because the .308 had become more common.

    http://www.surplusrifle.com/shooting/spanishinquisition/index.asp

    I can't remember if thats the site I got my info off of or if it was another. Though that site is good.
     
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    Wow the shit talking in this thread is EPIC!
     
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    I couldn't care less what happens.

    But thats Because im from the UK and used for having Strict Firearm laws (evening on Airguns).

    but some off them i wouldn't mind seeing banned, Why would you need a Semi-Automatic rifle in your house?

    But saying that i would Love to have a Kar98K Mauser and a MG42
     
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    Care to elaborate MailMan?
     
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    Got a mini-14...always been interested in an MP5... But my real desire is a Beretta 93r. Got a black 92fs Desert Storm edition (I served in shield and storm), but really have always wanted one of the 93s. Just gotta find a way to 'obtain' one heheh
     
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    I'm going to respond to yours, Chris :cool:, altho there have been plenty in the thread to ask the same question. My basic answer is, if I want to take my selectable fire .223 out back in the Blue Ridge mountains, with noone behind me for miles and miles of national forest, and attach the beautiful scope to the top, and sight (for all of a half second) on a poor defenseless stump and blow the ever-loving crappola out of it, what's it to you? I mean really?

    Why do ANY of us here spend ANY time (and lets get down to it, "Waste ANY time"), trying to eke a few more mhz out of your processor/ram/vid card? I realize that the vid card is not killing anyone, but neither is my .223. Just because. There's a thrill in getting more out of it, and some people get a thrill out of pulling the trigger on a fully automatic rifle, and watching it demolish some straw dummy in a field, 50 feet away. I'm not hurting anything, you're not hurting anything. Really, what does it matter? The premise of OUR legal code is supposed to be innocent until proven guilty. I realize that's not the same in many countries, (and yes, for all of you USA-bashers, there are cases of exceptions in our past. Whatever. Shut up. Not the point here). The point is, until I show some sign of needing to restrained from damaging someone/thing else, leave me alone. I accept some minor limitations, but I think those should be licensing issues, not overall bans. If I show no signs of needing to go on a murderous rampage with my Hum-Vee, don't tell me I can't own one. I can do just about as much damage in a walmart with one of those as I could with a mini-14 and some extended, flip-over clips. Same logic should apply.
     
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    Which is why I am morally outraged at the ban on grenades and mortars...I'd just shoot my RPGs at old PCs...no one would get hurt. I'd be FAMOUS on YouTube
     
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    i want legalize guns in netherlands :(
     
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    my friend's dad is in Countryside Management and they all have clay shotguns/a variety of rifles in the home. To be fair when his dad's firing 223 from a banana clip I don't see why we don't just have handguns etc in the uk as well
     
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    Well I could. However if you don't see it then I'm not sure you would understand. Nothing personal to you WhiteLotus. I'm just saying in general.


    Anyway I guess Ill try. Everything from the CQB talk and the "proper" use of weapons to the anti-gun rhetoric is pretty much trash. I just step into the fire once in a while for fun. In the end what people are doing here is exactly what the "powers that be" want. No one united. Makes us easier to control. The sad part is we are all guilty. Hence my statement "Wow the shit talking in this thread is EPIC!"

    Epic loss of liberties. Epic division of ideals. Epic rhetoric. Epic control of the population via fear. Epic loss for us all. Epic shit.
     
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    Hm I will admit i tend not to understand how the US politics and even the general train of thought of an American. But i am here to try and understand and to learn more so i don't look a complete douche when i go over there and do a spot of traveling!
     

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