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how to unlock GTX465 to 470

Discussion in 'NVIDIA' started by Fitseries3, Jun 9, 2010.

  1. Fitseries3

    Fitseries3 Eleet Hardware Junkie

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    Nice find Fits!!! This should be stickied!
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    Nice find but kind hit and miss i'm betting but maybe not. This would explain the high price tag on the 465. It is a 470 gtx.
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    Kinda makes me want to grab one from Fry's and try it myself.

    If you read the link, it's not a straight flash and you've got a 470. It's damn close, though.
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    I was kind of wondering about that when I first read that the GTX 465s would use the 470 pcb. Guess the 465s didn't meet the required speed and/or voltage requirements to be a 470.

    trt470 is probably right that this will be hit and miss.
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    If anybody wants to pay me for a GTX 465, I'll try to unlock it and ship it to you :) Wouldn't mind trying it out myself, just don't have the money for it.
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    I bet you would lol!!! the price between the two is too close for now to take the risk.
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    Sorry to burst your bubbles but that is applicable only on that PoV with 10 memory chips. :)
    That GTX465 batch is a GTX470 with a BIOS modified.
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    good article,to bad romanians aren't the most impartial people in the world (I do admit that a GTX470 is faster than a HD 5850,but still...)
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    sweet find Fits!
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    Heh, depends on what site do you read. :D
    This one for example looks OK. They have an article about GTX465 to GTX470 unlocking.
    Ah, in case that someone is interested here you find that ASUS tool for "unlocking".
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    Since Google sucks so much, is he saying at the end that these boards that do unlock have all the memory chips for a 470 or that you might get one that unlocks just not the memory? I'm kind of confused by Google though I see that he makes mentioned to makes sure it the GTX 265 in question uses the 470 reference pcb.
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    Fixed :)
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    mastrdrver AFAIK only GTX465 with GTX470 PCB and 10 memory chips are unlockable via that method.
    In our country the only one brand which can do this is PoV and if I understand correct only this first wave of GTX465. Rumor is that they were in a rush to launch GTX465 and they "downgrade" via BIOS some GTX470.
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    No, I'm pretty sure I had it right the first time Google....I mean DD. :p
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    Not too dissimilar to the 5830 -5850. 5850's that didn't quite 'cut it' eventually became re-badged as 5830's.

    Same-same as the 465 / 470 I presume.
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    True, but I sure that nVidia probably has quite a few more 465s that didn't make the 470 cut than ATI in their 5830-5850 setup. The 5830 was more of a price filler though badly executed. The 465 is more of a solution to a problem for nVidia.
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    I think this whole thing is pretty much like unlocking cores on an AMD chip. The parts in the GPU that were disabled were probably disabled for a reason, such as a wafer not being of high enough quality for a batch of 470's, so they put them in 465's instead.
    There could be a possibility of losing performance by unlocking a 465 if this is the case.
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    This topic really interesting, but one question.... "How to do it"

    because unlocking GPU core doesn't like unlocking CPU core (like AMD Phenom II X2 to X4) maybe need some hardware mods, (soldering in some place, etc) and don't forget to get firmware mod.
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    This is a little different than the unlockable AMD chips. With those, it could be something as simple as a perfectly fine working x4 c3 having the 1333mhz ram bug. In that case it would be disabled down to 3 or 2 cores to be able to pass spec. May even end up being an Athlon II chip if need be.

    With these 465 chips, they won't run at 470 spec because they need too much voltage, just won't hit clocks regardless of voltage, etc.

    They are similar in that they have both have bugs, its just a matter of nVidia's bug is more basic in that they're having to make a 470 a 465 because of manufacturing problems. AMD's is just a small bug that all ic chips have to some degree. Its just to what degree the bug is and does it effect the performance of the chip.
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    very good find "fit"
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    any idea which brand can be unlocked, i know MSI can be but what about the others, any idea about palit and zotac
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    You have to have the 10 RAM chips before you can even attempt it. 90% of the newer 465s ship with 8 and there are pictures showing how to identify these cards without even taking the heatsink off. Basically the resistors arent there and so therefor the RAM chips arent there. Its pretty much a guaranteed that if you try to flash to a 470 with these cards they will be bricked and you better have a backup card to reflash.

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