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I didn't buy a gaming machine and now I regret it

Discussion in 'System Builder's Advice' started by Sojik, Jan 14, 2009.

  1. Sojik New Member

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    A few years ago I bought an HP Pavilion a1677c from Sam's Club. At the time I wasn't really into video games but I needed a new PC for school and business and email and all that. The only games I played were actually text based fantasy games that were more like collaborative fiction than an actual game. The thing came with a nice beautiful 21" monitor and said AMD 64 on the side and all that so I thought maybe I'd try some games on it and that didn't work out too well. I find out today that I have a crappy GPU (I found people on forums saying it's crappy back in 2007). So my question is, should I upgrade or build from scratch? I tried playing Crysis on it -- failed. Assassin's Creed -- failed on low settings. Half-Life 2 -- fail. I play World of Warcraft on it with low settings. I tried BioShock on it and failed too. I want to have a PC that can play those types of games and play the new games coming out this year and the next.

    I've been looking over MySuperPC.com and am really tempted to just go for it and build a new PC. My brother who has a much much worse PC (it's a very old Dell) said he'd pay me $300 dollars for this thing which could go toward my budget for the new PC. I haven't set a budget yet since I'm still not sure whether I want to try upgrading this thing or going for it -- but somewhere in the $800-1000 range probably. Unfortunately I'll have to factor in the price of new software, right? So $100-150 for XP or Vista I guess. :(

    I attached my dxdiag file so maybe some of you can give me advice. Is the $300 fair? Can I upgrade and be able to play the games out now and the ones coming out soon? Or should I just build a new system?
     

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    erocker Super Moderator Staff Member

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    You will be able to build a very formidable PC for 800-1000 dollars. What country are you located in? I don't think it's going to be worth upgrading your current system
     
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    id be careful of the txt since hes 1 post. if you post it on the thread ill be happy to help you ot
     
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    I understand Red. The file is long for a forum post so I'll c&p the top for you.

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    System Information
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    Time of this report: 12/31/2008, 20:13:20
    Machine name: RUBY
    Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.080814-1236)
    Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
    System Manufacturer: HP Pavilion 061
    System Model: RC669AA-ABA a1677c
    BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
    Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4600+, MMX, 3DNow (2 CPUs), ~2.4GHz
    Memory: 2046MB RAM
    Page File: 530MB used, 4431MB available
    Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
    DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
    DX Setup Parameters: Not found
    DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.5512 32bit Unicode

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    DxDiag Notes
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    DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
    Display Tab 1: No problems found.
    Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
    Music Tab: No problems found.
    Input Tab: No problems found.
    Network Tab: No problems found.

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    DirectX Debug Levels
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    Direct3D: 0/4 (n/a)
    DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
    DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
    DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
    DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
    DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
    DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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    Display Devices
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    Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 7500 LE
    Manufacturer: NVIDIA
    Chip type: GeForce 7500 LE
    DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
    Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_01DD&SUBSYS_034B1043&REV_A1
    Display Memory: 512.0 MB
    Current Mode: 1680 x 1050 (32 bit) (60Hz)
    Monitor: HP f2105 Wide Flat Panel Monitor
    Monitor Max Res: 1680,1050
    Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
    Driver Version: 6.14.0011.6921 (English)
    DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
    Driver Attributes: Final Retail
    Driver Date/Size: 12/5/2007 01:41:00, 5773568 bytes
    WHQL Logo'd: Yes
    WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
    VDD: n/a
    Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys
    Mini VDD Date: 12/5/2007 01:41:00, 7435392 bytes
    Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-429D-11CF-FA68-402300C2CB35}
    Vendor ID: 0x10DE
    Device ID: 0x01DD
    SubSys ID: 0x034B1043
    Revision ID: 0x00A1
    Revision ID: 0x00A1
    Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_B ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D ModeWMV9_B ModeWMV9_A
    Deinterlace Caps: {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
    {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
    {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
    {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
    {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
    {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
    {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
    {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
    Registry: OK
    DDraw Status: Enabled
    D3D Status: Enabled
    AGP Status: Enabled
    DDraw Test Result: Not run
    D3D7 Test Result: Not run
    D3D8 Test Result: Not run
    D3D9 Test Result: Not run

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    Sound Devices
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    Description: Realtek HD Audio rear output
    Default Sound Playback: Yes
    Default Voice Playback: Yes
    Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0888&SUBSYS_103C2A34&REV_1000
    Manufacturer ID: 1
    Product ID: 100
    Type: WDM
    Driver Name: RtkHDAud.sys
    Driver Version: 5.10.0000.5502 (English)
    Driver Attributes: Final Retail
    WHQL Logo'd: Yes
    Date and Size: 10/25/2007 06:29:00, 4623872 bytes
    Other Files:
    Driver Provider: Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
    HW Accel Level: Full
    Cap Flags: 0xF5F
    Min/Max Sample Rate: 8000, 192000
    Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 33, 32
    Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 33, 32
    HW Memory: 0
    Voice Management: No
    EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
    I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
    Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
    Registry: OK
    Sound Test Result: Not run



    EDIT: I'm in the US. :) Florida
     
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    thanks =) you should be good to play games with a simple video card upgrade. i believe your vid card input is agp correct? i just put a 7600gs up on ebay, if you want the link pm me. i played all my games fine with a 2.4 ghz proc, 2gb ram, a noname mobo and the 7600gs
     
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    I had some time on my hands. :) With shipping it will put you at around the $1000 mark.
     
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    If your from the good old USA that's where you need to go.'


    You can get a killer machine for a grand.
     
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    FYI @ redwings

    It has a PCI-e x16 slot.

    @erocker

    nice build
     
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    It would be cool to help out ur bro and build yourself another comp from the ground up.

    $1000 (less the $300 from ur bro should be plenty to make a very nice comp)

    If you ask 100 people what is a good comp ur gonna get 1000 different answers, lol

    But basically get a case you like (as long as there is plenty of airflow. Remember you are the one that needs to look at it)

    Get a top of the line PS (like a corsair)

    To keep the budget reasonable get a mobo that will run Crossfire/SLI so in the future upgrades will be easy and a dual core CPU.
     
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    ooo. i saw agp mode enabled =) my bad
     
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    Yes. I understand it's important to note it's NOT a PCI-e x16 2.0 :twitch:

    @erocker

    WOW! Thanks! Thanks all of you.
     
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    Yes, but 2.0 cards are backwards compatible with a 1.x slotted motherboard. ;) If you have the funds and willing to do the build I say go for erocker's! It truly is good. Very good.
     
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    This would be a good option if your budget could stretch that far.

    EDIT: LOL Damn watermark :p Subtotal: $1,144.92
     
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    If it was me id personaly just get a new GPU, the rest of ya system specs are fine, but if you want to go out and build a new one then yea look at what the other guys are offering ;)

    Im still running old school< and im still very happy with it, still plays games just fine :)
     
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    and welcome to TPU by the way:toast:

    PS: dont give ur bro the 21" monitor...
     
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    Assuming I stick to a $1000 dollar budget and my brother gives me $300 dollars the systems these guys are offering sound really great for $700 out of my bank account. I'm looking up reviews right now.

    @oli

    Thanks for that. I definitely don't want to go over $1000 and your price doesn't factor in Windows. Thanks though. :)

    Edit: RE: Monitor

    I won't :D He has a 19"
     
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    yea, erocker put a nice rig for ya. Id just swap the Seagate Barracuda to 7200.10 320GB (with Perpendicular Recording) and optical drive to SATA.


    P.S. he forgot the PSU. I'd go with Corsair 520W or 550W, Seasonic M12 or M12-II 500W or PC Power and Cooling 510W.
     
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    What website are you taking that SS of btw? Newegg?
     
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    Lol. He plays fantasy games, why need a high-end quad like the i7?? Stick with Core 2 or Phenom II.
     
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    Well I used to 2 years ago when I bought the PC. Since then I've tried playing other types of games.

    Games like Assassin's Creed, Unreal, Crysis, Half-Life 2, Rainbow 6 Vegas 2 and Bioshock.

    EDIT: But yeah, I'm not sure I need quad. Are there games that can use the quad yet to make it better?
     
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    Still Core 2/Phenom II will do u well for a year or too.
     
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