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And if you actually paid attention to what real owners are saying about their retail bought cards, you'd know that the temperature problems the reviews had have been solved on the retail cards.

I should have gotten the GTX 480 when I had the chance. I was hesitant about the Fermi cards because of the massive heat they produce, and inefficient stock cooling. I was looking at this card, on newegg. They're out of stock, but do you know if it will become available again?

SAPPHIRE Toxic 100281-2GTXSR Radeon HD 5870 2GB 25...
 
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I should have gotten the GTX 480 when I had the chance. I was hesitant about the Fermi cards because of the massive heat they produce, and inefficient stock cooling. I was looking at this card, on newegg. They're out of stock, but do you know if it will become available again?

SAPPHIRE Toxic 100281-2GTXSR Radeon HD 5870 2GB 25...

It will come into stock at some stage. maybe shoot NewEgg an email to see when.
I really dont think you need a GTX480 OR a 2Gb 5870, if you're just gaming. A standard reference-design 5850 would be sufficient, and at most at reference 5870 - if all you're doing is gaming with it.
 
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I should have gotten the GTX 480 when I had the chance. I was hesitant about the Fermi cards because of the massive heat they produce, and inefficient stock cooling. I was looking at this card, on newegg. They're out of stock, but do you know if it will become available again?

SAPPHIRE Toxic 100281-2GTXSR Radeon HD 5870 2GB 25...

Personally I'd never buy another graphics card without heavily considering the Vapor-X/Toxic range.

There's 2 different Vapor-X 1GB 5870's, the 11161-03-50R and the 11161-05-40R does anyone know the difference apart from the 25MHz on the core?

I know what you mean about getting a 2GB card compared to a 1GB card, it feels like you're getting double for about an extra $70. When you've already spent $500, why not go the extra? Also futureproofing bla bla.
I would have loved to get a 2GB Vapor-X 5770 :laugh:
 
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Personally I'd never buy another graphics card without heavily considering the Vapor-X/Toxic range.

There's 2 different Vapor-X 1GB 5870's, the 11161-03-50R and the 11161-05-40R does anyone know the difference apart from the 25MHz on the core?

I know what you mean about getting a 2GB card compared to a 1GB card, it feels like you're getting double for about an extra $70. When you've already spent $500, why not go the extra? Also futureproofing bla bla.
I would have loved to get a 2GB Vapor-X 5770 :laugh:

The 2GB VRAM is good for higher resolutions and AA.
 
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But you're running at 1680x1050. Trust me its not going to make much of a difference.

Crysis and Crysis Warhead at very high/enthusiast, even at low resolutions and no AA, will bring any single GPU to it's knees. Even an HD 5870 or GTX 480.
 

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Crysis and Crysis Warhead at very high/enthusiast, even at low resolutions and no AA, will bring any single GPU to it's knees. Even an HD 5870 or GTX 480.

That's bullsh!t. My 5850 solo kills Crysis 1920x1080 4xAA. You have no idea what you're talking about w/respect to these GPUs and it shows. The funny thing about this hardware is that you still won't understand no matter how many reviews you read. Your personal experience will set you on the right path, but no amount of reading will give you an idea of the power of these components. Just get the sh!t, compare it to what you've had before, and then you'll understand how the current generation sizes up.
 
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Crysis and Crysis Warhead at very high/enthusiast, even at low resolutions and no AA, will bring any single GPU to it's knees. Even an HD 5870 or GTX 480.

You tend to be just gargling some spiel you've read somewhere on the interwebs.
Dude I run Warhead at 1440x900/EVERYTHING maxed, WITH a bottlenecked GTX285, and the game runs perfectly acceptable.

Crysis game engine is a piece of wank anyway, dont judge a GPU by whether it can run crysis.
 
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OK, how many frames should I be getting with Crysis on very high, 1024x768, 0x AA and motion blur disabled, with an i7 930 @ 2.8 GHz, 6GB DDR3 1333, and a single HD 5870?
 

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OK, how many frames should I be getting with Crysis on very high, 1024x768, 0x AA and motion blur disabled, with an i7 930 @ 2.8 GHz, 6GB DDR3 1333, and a single HD 5870?

Shut up. I really don't like you anymore. You don't read a thing.
 
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Who knows? Since nobody in their right mind uses1024x768 anymore. I think you would of been better suited with a console. But since you have all these parts, buy a video card and find out.

I'll tell you this. Asking questions, getting answers then coming back with your answers that are taken from some advertisement is trolling. If you do it again, infractions are coming and you will be shown the door.
 
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Read facts.



Full Crysis bench for the 5870 here... http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ATI/Radeon_HD_5870/10.html
 

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1024x768 is mostly CPU driven anyway! :shadedshu
 

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TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 3145, Recorded Time: 83.68s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 58.56s, Average FPS: 53.71
Min FPS: 18.31 at frame 2054, Max FPS: 72.01 at frame 808
Average Tri/Sec: -11170819, Tri/Frame: -207990
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 0.59
!TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
Play Time: 56.63s, Average FPS: 55.54
Min FPS: 18.31 at frame 2054, Max FPS: 72.01 at frame 808
Average Tri/Sec: -11251043, Tri/Frame: -202586
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 0.60
!TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
Play Time: 56.79s, Average FPS: 55.38
Min FPS: 18.31 at frame 2054, Max FPS: 72.01 at frame 808
Average Tri/Sec: -11261492, Tri/Frame: -203355
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 0.60
TimeDemo Play Ended, (3 Runs Performed)
==============================================================

//////////// Summary \\\\\\\\\\\\\

05/17/2010 13:06:59 - Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate

DirectX 10 CUSTOM 3X @ Map: avalanche @ 0 1920 x 1080 AA 4x
==> Framerate [ Min: 18.31 Max: 72.01 Avg: 55.46 ]
 
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Uhhh, what was the thread topic again? ;)
 
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Benchmark Scores They're pretty good, nothing crazy.
srsly, looks like chew out the newbie time (dont know MB though)
. Get the gtx 480 or 5870 if you can afford it, or get a 470/5850 OC them and put the money to a better/bigger monitor.

Nice setup... lots of places to save money though...
 

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srsly, looks like chew out the newbie time. Get the gtx 480 or 5870 if you can afford it, or get a 470/5850 OC them and put the money to a better/bigger monitor.

Nice setup... lots of places to save money though...

newbie or troll?

Processor: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X5677 @ 3.47GHz @ 4146 Mhz
CPU ID: Intel64 Family 6 Model 44 Stepping 1
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate
Physical memory: 5.99 GB
Display adapter: ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series 1024 MB
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sys_spec_MotionBlur = 1
sys_spec_GameEffects = 4
sys_spec_Water = 1
sys_spec_VolumetricEffects = 4
sys_spec_Texture = 4
sys_spec_Sound = 4
sys_spec_Shadows = 4
sys_spec_Shading = 4
sys_spec_PostProcessing = 4
sys_spec_Physics = 1
sys_spec_Particles = 2
sys_spec_ObjectDetail = 4

==============================================================
TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 3145, Recorded Time: 83.68s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 49.65s, Average FPS: 63.35
Min FPS: 37.40 at frame 2070, Max FPS: 79.53 at frame 797
Average Tri/Sec: -13189555, Tri/Frame: -208209
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 0.59
!TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
Play Time: 48.88s, Average FPS: 64.34
Min FPS: 37.40 at frame 2070, Max FPS: 79.59 at frame 777
Average Tri/Sec: -13120399, Tri/Frame: -203931
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 0.60
!TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
Play Time: 48.91s, Average FPS: 64.30
Min FPS: 37.40 at frame 2070, Max FPS: 79.74 at frame 776
Average Tri/Sec: -13072368, Tri/Frame: -203302
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 0.60
TimeDemo Play Ended, (3 Runs Performed)
==============================================================

//////////// Summary \\\\\\\\\\\\\

05/17/2010 13:16:35 - Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate

DirectX 10 CUSTOM 3X @ Map: avalanche @ 0 1024 x 768 AA 0x
==> Framerate [ Min: 37.40 Max: 79.67 Avg: 64.32 ]

PS this should be in system builder's advice
 
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Benchmark Scores They're pretty good, nothing crazy.
Could be U2K with a new SN :roll:
 

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Personally I'd never buy another graphics card without heavily considering the Vapor-X/Toxic range.

There's 2 different Vapor-X 1GB 5870's, the 11161-03-50R and the 11161-05-40R does anyone know the difference apart from the 25MHz on the core?

I know what you mean about getting a 2GB card compared to a 1GB card, it feels like you're getting double for about an extra $70. When you've already spent $500, why not go the extra? Also futureproofing bla bla.
I would have loved to get a 2GB Vapor-X 5770 :laugh:

They are non-reference, and don't offer voltage control for real OCing. All they have is better cooling, and you can upgrade that yourself.

As far as the 2GB cards, no real advantage unless you own a 30" 2560x1600 or Eyefinity setup.
 

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This threads turning into the Blitzkreig FFS and it's one of mine! needs to be moved to system builders ( Not one of mine :)) and burnt in a pot of "WTF".
 
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