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I just toasted my 1 day old 4770.

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I have that feeling in my stomach right now.
I totally just lept before I looked.

Heres what I did.

1. Yesterday, buy a new Sapphire 4770.
2. Today, discover an ASUS bios will make it faster.
3. Hardly read.
4. Download GPU-Z; managed to save Sapphire BIOS before proceeding.
5. Found a copy of ASUS4770.BIN; purportedly my savior.
6. Downloaded WINFLASH.
7. Downloaded RBE.
8. Didn't read instructions for RBE, just mashed buttons.
this is where I get hazy
9. Load BIOS... (The ASUS Bios)
9.5 Browsed to where WinFlash was
10. Acquire/flash -> ticked "Force flash"
11. "Flash Bios"
12. Flash successful, you must reboot.
13. Reboot. To black screen and nothing is coming up.
14. Power off machine. Power on machine. repeat
15. Goto 14 with fingers crossed.
16. Post this thread.

Is there a chance the card is salvageable?
I can take the card into work ( where a floppy drive exists... I did read something about that.)
I also read that if I can find a mobo with onboard video ( or an old PCI card ), I might be able to fix this?

I'm sure there are 20 threads about my predicament here.... but when it happens to you, you sorta panic.

Help me!
 

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Install it on a system with two PCI-Express x16 slots, as a secondary display adapter (or) Use a PCI VGA card to boot your machine. Re-flash the card with the correct BIOS.
 
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Video cards getting bricked after BIOS flash is an age old problem. It's pretty common. As long as you don't punch the video card, we can expect things to be fine :)
 

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My motherboard has onboard video.
I set in the BIOS to use onboard/PCI first, but it refuses to.... always wants to boot off the GSO ( or 4770 ) first. :nutkick:

I'm wondering if finding an old PCI card will work ( in my mobo ), or if I need to find someone with two pci-e slots to do this.


btarunr --- i can almost handle that it's bricked... assuming i can unbrick. :)
 

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Find an old PCI card. Chances are your motherboard, regardless of setting, will disable the onboard card when a PCI-E or PCI card is inserted. However, if you put in a PCI card and leave the setting to use onboard/PCI first, it should use the PCI card, even with a PCI-E card inserted.

You can then use the force flash option to flash the original BIOS back on the card, at least you made a backup of the original, most people don't do that. Good for you!:toast:
 
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sorry but :nutkick:

check ur bios usually thers option to turn off auto switch to pcie gfx card when its inserted , so u can run ur onboard vga if not :nutkick:
 
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sorry but :nutkick:

check ur bios usually thers option to turn off auto switch to pcie gfx card when its inserted , so u can run ur onboard vga if not :nutkick:

Yea, in BIOS, there should be an "Init display first" option - that'll tell your MB the first place to look for a video device to use.
 
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remember that it will boot from where the video cable is conected

once you set the onboard as primary, turn off the pc, disconnect the video cable from the 4770 and connect the cable on the onboard video, thats on the motherboard, then turn on the pc.

if this dont work then look for someone with two pci-e slots
 

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I tried both settings in BIOS.
The 4770 uses a DVI cable.
The onboard is VGA.

I completely removed the DVI cable, and only left the VGA cable plugged in ( trying both BIOS settings.)

I'm checking with my work to see if they have an old PCI VGA card.

Thanks for all the suggestions guys.
 

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My motherboard has onboard video.
I set in the BIOS to use onboard/PCI first, but it refuses to.... always wants to boot off the GSO ( or 4770 ) first. :nutkick:

Then remove the graphics card, connect the monitor to the onboard video, start the machine, set the video priority to "Onchip VGA/ Onboard" in the BIOS setup. Save and Exit, install correct drivers for the onboard VGA on the OS side, boot with the graphics card installed.
 

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btarunr - The problem is the machine simply will not boot to the onboard when i put the PCI-E card in. I'd be flying blind.

Are you saying that during the POST, I'd be blind... but once Windows starts up, it would switch to the onboard? (Then I'd have to use winflash?)
 
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you could make this soooo much simpler, if you venture off using Atiflash [DOS program] its less user friendly but once you learn how to use it, youll stop being scared of flashing your video cards. I bricked and repaired many Vcards using this programs. So i suggest for you to give it a try.

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If you want ill make you a small guide on how to use it. =)
 

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btarunr - The problem is the machine simply will not boot to the onboard when i put the PCI-E card in. I'd be flying blind.

Are you saying that during the POST, I'd be blind... but once Windows starts up, it would switch to the onboard? (Then I'd have to use winflash?)

Then it appears like your onboard video and a graphics card can't work at the same time. Find a PCI VGA card.
 

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warup - thanks for the offer -- i'll google creating a boot disk and using atiflash; i think the part i'm not certain about is how do i tell it to flash the PCI-E card, not the PCI card?

btarunr - thanks for the suggestions. A guy at work found an NVIDIA 7300 PCI card. Hopefully that'll do the trick in my PC. Otherwise, I can borrow a different PC from work with onboard.
 

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Its no problem man. Just READ more next time and feel free to ask us questions. No question is to stupid and we were all noobs at one time. :toast:
 

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An alternative fix?

OK, say you can't successfully flash it back to a working state for whatever reason, what then?

As it's brand new, how about returning it to the retailer as DOA and asking for another one? This isn't something they can catch you out on and the only potential problem is living with your conscience, knowing you pulled a fast one over them. In my case, I'd have no problem at all, given how often the retailers give poor service.

EDIT: Oh and the best thing you've done here on this forum is upfront admit you made a mistake and didn't think. That's great and means you won't repeat it, plus it's earning you lots of respect from others. :toast:
 
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OK, say you can't successfully flash it back to a working state for whatever reason, what then?

As it's brand new, how about returning it to the retailer as DOA and asking for another one? This isn't something they can catch you out on and the only potential problem is living with your conscience, knowing you pulled a fast one ove them. In my case, I'd have no problem at all, given how often the retailers give poor service.

Amen to that!:rockout:
 

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I screwed it up. Not the retailer. Not Sapphire.

I have to wait until tomorrow before getting the PCI card... waiting stiiiiinks.
 

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Ok, that's very honest of you. Good luck!
 
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Its no problem man. Just READ more next time and feel free to ask us questions. No question is to stupid and we were all noobs at one time. :toast:

We?

Anyway, i bricked a mobo last year. Everything was fine there was a part of the rom that was used to initiate a recovery or something.

As long as its not damaged and i dont think it will be, you can as they said use another card and just reflash the bricked card. Next time just use MSI Afterburner or bios flash only an oc, do not go changing the bios to another manufacturer they might not be compatible and this is the case here.

I think you can get bios flash tool using a CD? Dont know enough to be able to say if you still need a floppy drive to flash.

My motherboard and most new boards have USB flashing tools. Im pretty sure you an make a bootable USB drive to flash the GPU back.

Ive sent back a mobo before but then again i did say the bios was fuber, i didnt say it was my fault. This was after i discoverd the recovery part of the rom was fuber on my sapphire which got replaced.
 

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We?

Anyway, i bricked a mobo last year. Everything was fine there was a part of the rom that was used to initiate a recovery or something.

As long as its not damaged and i dont think it will be, you can as they said use another card and just reflash the bricked card. Next time just use MSI Afterburner or bios flash only an oc, do not go changing the bios to another manufacturer they might not be compatible and this is the case here.

I think you can get bios flash tool using a CD? Dont know enough to be able to say if you still need a floppy drive to flash.

My motherboard and most new boards have USB flashing tools. Im pretty sure you an make a bootable USB drive to flash the GPU back.

Ive sent back a mobo before but then again i did say the bios was fuber, i didnt say it was my fault. This was after i discoverd the recovery part of the rom was fuber on my sapphire which got replaced.

yes "WE".
 
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well here we go :):

Well as you may know[or not] flashing from widows OS is not only risky but pretty much a one way ticket. because if you screw up you wont be able to revert due to the lack of video from the "dead" card, you cant use windows, unless you use another card, which is just bothersome.

-=I referenced myself off TPU's "Guide to Video BIOS flashing"=-

1a. First you need to create a boot disk, flash drive, floppy,or DOS partition [the most common being CD so we'll use that one]. Insert the ATIflash & Bios files along with it too, found here [v3.75]

Note: Use a simple name for your BIOS file so its easy to remember and fast to type I.E. "stock.bin, 0.bin, old.bin, etc." for stock GFX card BIOS, "new. bin, 1.bin, OC.bin, etc." for modded GFX card BIOS.

1b. boot from the CD and type "Atiflash"

2. Once the application starts it will show you some of the commands and what they do, just keep pressing next [since ill tell you here what to type....unless you wanna learn more:p]

3. Type "atiflash -i " to see which adapter the video card belongs to [normally "adapter 0"]

4. After you found you the adapter you are now ready to flash your card, type:

"atiflash -p 0 stock.bin"

Note: -p stands for write BIOS image, 0 means for the adapter, stock.bin...well that's the BIOS file you want to flash to.

-wait for it, until it tells you that the flash has been successful and you can now restart [i forgot the exact wording].

5. good luck :cool:

Quick guide library:

1. Making a bootable CD/DVD
2. Using Atiflash
3. Recovering from a Bad flash
4. Using Radeon Bios Editor "RBE"
 

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I'm trying to run ATIFLASH, and it's erroring out.

I'm using:
atiflash -p 0 my4770.bin

It says:
Old SSID: 0318
New SSID: 1250
SSID mismatched
ERROR 0FL01 : press '1' to continue

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Does that mean it thinks my bios backup is bad?

:banghead:
 
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