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I need a decision now! help me please asap! i3 vs A10

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Buying new laptop.And i am buying it today! I need HELP now. Don't ask why i can not no longer wait. Give some replies to this thread,NOW! It is urgent i don't have time and i need to make a decision.
I will help you with this providing the links below. Note: I can read the numbers by myself. What i need from you is real life experience. Witch one of these laptops work best in real life. I am looking for both gaming but much more important multitasking,on day to day applications. Browsing,microsoft office etc
No,considering how incredible cheap are these laptops they are not for high-end users.
Find it in your heart to understand(do not judge) and for me this is as much money i can spend.
The GeForce of course wins when it comes to graphics. But i find the A10 in day to day usage a little bit more better.
There are some people reviewing the Asus laptop,saying it gets slightly warm quite fast in temperatures of 60 celcius.All do it matters how you use/hold the laptop...on table or in bed next to blankets.
These 2 laptops are very similar. Enough writing. If you would to pick one,witch one would it be ?!

http://www.emag.ro/laptop-asus-cu-p...freedos-dark-grey-r510dp-xx118d/pd/DN1F5BBBM/

http://www.emag.ro/laptop-acer-aspi...0m-2gb-linux-black-nx-mq0ex-018/pd/D5ZXBMBBM/

Review websites:
http://www.game-debate.com/gpu/inde...on-hd-8650g-hd-8670m-dual-vs-geforce-840m-2gb

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i3-4000M-vs-AMD-A10-5750M
 
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My advice, don't buy a Acer laptop, from Est EU market at least...
 
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I have no idea which side of the europe my country is.
 
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From site, emag.ro, Est EU...
 
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I have no idea which side of the europe my country is.

Your site and the money is Romanian so that would be Eastern Europe.

If I had to pick between those two then I would choose the Asus. I have owned a few Asus laptops and they have been good and lasted however that particular Asus is not so good for gaming but you already know that.
 
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Thx for the replay 64k. And yes...a 64bit graphics card is never good for gaming. In this case you can clearly see the GeForce is better.But what do you think of the processor difference ?
 
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At least you can upgrade to a good CPU in the future, with the A10 your stuck with i3 tier CPU's .
sry didn't read:slap:
 
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At least you can upgrade to a good CPU in the future, with the A10 your stuck with i3 tier CPU's till you get a new motherboard .

They're laptops.

Thx for the replay 64k. And yes...a 64bit graphics card is never good for gaming. In this case you can clearly see the GeForce is better.But what do you think of the processor difference ?

I found this. I would go with the Asus.

http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/48...0-5750M_vs_Intel_Core_i3_Mobile_i3-4000M.html

It should be good for all except gaming.
 
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Upgrading is the last thing on my mind. Maybe next year i will get 4gb ram more since i got 1 slot left.But thx for the imput Batou.
 
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64k ,it clearly seems cpu-world is better at reviewing then cpu-boss. And you're link kinda convinced me to go for the AMD. There will be a slightly noticeable loss in gaming, but like a mentioned before, overall i am interested in day to day applications. The only real thing that stopped me from buying it earlier is the high temperatures the cpu tends to reach (according to some reviews)
 
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My advice, don't buy a Acer laptop, from Est EU market at least...

Why not? I had such a laptop and I'm from that region - hadn't had any problems, just had to change the thermal compound.
 
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I'm thinking AMD would be OK for laptops..
better gaming for sure
I know about as much as Sgt Schultz when it comes to laptops.
I can fix one, though. :D
I would go with the Asus AMD one.
if for some reason there were no desktops left on the planet.
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At first glance...The ASUS AMD would be my choice because I don't normally buy anything ACER.

Although...the 840M is quite attractive. IF it isn't a BGA socket mobile cpu in the ACER and I could upgrade it later...It might tempted me to purchase that one....

I think either one would suit your need for a decent budget laptop.

If I have to make a clear choice...I'd buy the ASUS because I've had bad luck with ACER every single time I've purchased one of their units.

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I would recommend avoiding the machine equipped with Radeon HD 8600M Series GPU. Current Catalyst software tends to put this hardware into a very unstable state (freezes, black screen, "broken" S3, the list goes on), so you will be pretty much left with the original OEM package, which is usually a very dated one (based on either Catalyst 13.9 or 13.12, which also means no AMD Mantle support).

Also, enabling Dual Graphics on such system is a very bad idea: generally, a single GPU, even the integrated one, is capable of demonstrating better results than the Dual Graphics duo, while there are also some issues like artifacts in DirectX 9.0 applications and severe stuttering.

I honestly thought they have dropped support for this thing long ago, even the list of systems compatible with Dual Graphics on official site hasn't been updated since mid 2011... So you can imagine it's not AMD's initiative anymore and in fact is fully done and supported by your OEM/ISV exclusively.

Intel Core i3 processors are much faster than anything AMD has to offer in mobile segment right now, and same goes to NVIDIA GeForce GT 840M when compared to AMD "Sun XT" silicon. Given the fact that these two laptops that you've linked us to share the same price tag, it would be insane to choose ASUS' product over the one that Acer has to offer, specification-wise.

The cooling system on E5-572G/571G laptops is perfectly capable of dealing with such energy-efficient parts as Haswell i3 and Maxwell GM108, the peak temperature is well below "critical" 90 degrees per Celsius (http://www.notebookcheck.net/fileadmin/Notebooks/Acer/Aspire_E5-571G-536E/Stress1.jpg). The display is decent enough as well, so I would say don't worry about the manufacturer's name and go for the Acer.
 

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64k ,it clearly seems cpu-world is better at reviewing then cpu-boss.

You are absolutely right! CPU-Boss and GPU-Boss are ok, but should never be used for a buying decision, as all they do is relay numbers. You were correct in your belief that you really need in-depth reviews and personal experiences to really know how a cpu, GPU, and indeed a whole system works as a whole!

I would go with the ASUS as well, since your primary need seems to be everyday tasks, with gaming secondary. ASUS makes a good product in their laptops generally (I've owned two).
 
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I have a FX 7500 based lenovo. The dedicated GPU is an R7 M260 (384sp/64bit bus) after filing around with overdrive I managed to get the integrated GPU to 1.1Ghz at which point it was faster than the R7 M260 even though it was running on a single stick(64bit) 1600mhz RAM. I plan to get a higher clocked 2x4GB kit to hopefully boost the iGPU's performance even further. If the ASUS comes with 2 sticks of RAM you can OC the iGPU with overdrive and it should do pretty well in games.
 

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i say go the acer.

Long story short, i've owned or repaird about two dozen laptops in this last year, and i've been measuring the power consumption at the wall while i was at it. The intel laptops - especially the i3's - run a lot cooler at idle and low load (web browsing) which meant hte fans generally stayed a lot quieter, which made them a hell of a lot nicer to own and use.

Right now i'm using a 1.3Ghz i3 acer netbook with 4GB dual channel ram as my HTPC and web browsing machine.


Both laptops have their strong suits, but the acer has the faster CPU, the faster GPU, and the lower power consumption for idle/2D tasks.

I cant speak for sure with 3D, but my previous A6 APU + dedicated GPU drew a lot more power than even my current i7+dedicated AMD laptop.
 
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If the ASUS comes with 2 sticks of RAM you can OC the iGPU with overdrive and it should do pretty well in games.
...Which is, again, pointless. The 4000M + GT 840M perform almost 2 times better (http://www.notebookcheck.net/Computer-Games-on-Laptop-Graphic-Cards.13849.0.html), while actually requiring a lot less power. Some games would be unplayable with HD 8670M ("Ryse: Son of Rome", "Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor", "Assasin's Creed: Unity", "Battlefield 4"), while GT 840M can handle them just fine at Low/720P, sometimes even better. No OC can close this gap, which makes the already discontinued and unsupported by both AMD and OEMs HD 8500M/8600M series GPUs obsolete.

Remember, these two laptops cost the same amount of money. ASUS is just as much of a cheap Chinese *rap (sorry), so you're not paying for any kind of "premium quality". Their motherboards and GPUs are a different story, but budget laptops? Let's be honest. The only thing that is "ASUS" in there is logo, everything else is exactly what you would expect from this category of computer devices: inexpensive electronics, dust-catching plastic chassis and an old AUO display panel.

Companies that do something different for sub-600 USD don't exist, I'm sorry, this is how the life goes. So, if you want something cheap that comes with a discrete GPU, right now your only choice is Pentium/Core i3 paired with GT 740M/GT 745M/GT 840M. We used to have fantastic budget chips like Radeon HD 7670M and 7730M, but you won't find them anymore, and AMD never offered any replacements. "Sun"/"Oland" chip is a joke, and it has a lot of problems on software side as well, so you have to be one sadistic AMD fan to buy this stuff, knowing how badly it performs even in configurations with GDDR5 memory. Mine only works with one specific version of Catalyst driver (dated October 2013), and doesn't even allow me to run a god damn AMD GPGPU tooling (which was the only reason I bought back then). The gaming performance is horrible, no need to say.

I wish things were different, I really do, but AMD don't care about their horrendous PowerXpress/Enduro software, and NVIDIA have a couple of Maxwell chips that work with Optimus out-of-the-box, so...
 

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warranty aside don't let brand sway you, as the laptop parts all come from the same companies anyway. acer, asus, samsung - i think i had 5 different brand laptops that all used the same LCD panel here at one point, which set me off with total giggleshits as to the fanboys who always rave about their brand having the best parts/quality. it always comes down to the parts and *model* not the brand (one asus can be great, one can be terrible)
 
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warranty aside don't let brand sway you, as the laptop parts all come from the same companies anyway. acer, asus, samsung - i think i had 5 different brand laptops that all used the same LCD panel here at one point, which set me off with total giggleshits as to the fanboys who always rave about their brand having the best parts/quality. it always comes down to the parts and *model* not the brand (one asus can be great, one can be terrible)

I agree completely with the hardware aspect but don't forget cooling and build quality. I have an Acer that is prob 6 years old (removed the Pentium dual core and replaced with a Core 2 Duo T5700). That machine is still in use today for his specific purpose but it always lives on an elevated cooling pad and fan otherwise the CPU heat migrates all throughout the whole thing and just roasts the HDD. Also, the whole thing seems made of cheap plastic with no metal bracing anywhere. Again, be careful with your stuff and no issues.
 

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A co worker just picked up a acer with I7 CPU, 8GB DDR3, 256GB SSD/1TB HDD, GTX 780M. That thing screams! Great laptop for the price he paid.
 
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Audio Device(s) M-audio M-track / realtek ALC 1150
Power Supply EVGA G2 1600W / CoolerMaster V1000 / Seasonic 620 M12-II
Mouse Mouse in review process/Razer Naga Epic 2011/Razer Naga 2014
Keyboard Keyboard in review process / Razer Blackwidow Ultimate 2014/Razer Blackwidow Ultimate 2011
Software Windows 7 Ultimate / Windows 7 ultimate / Windows 7 ultimate
Benchmark Scores cinebench 15.41 3960x @ 5.3ghz Wprime32m 3.352 3960x @ 5.25ghz Super PI 32m: 6m 42s 472ms @5.25ghz
...Which is, again, pointless. The 4000M + GT 840M perform almost 2 times better (http://www.notebookcheck.net/Computer-Games-on-Laptop-Graphic-Cards.13849.0.html), while actually requiring a lot less power. Some games would be unplayable with HD 8670M ("Ryse: Son of Rome", "Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor", "Assasin's Creed: Unity", "Battlefield 4"), while GT 840M can handle them just fine at Low/720P, sometimes even better. No OC can close this gap, which makes the already discontinued and unsupported by both AMD and OEMs HD 8500M/8600M series GPUs obsolete.

Remember, these two laptops cost the same amount of money. ASUS is just as much of a cheap Chinese *rap (sorry), so you're not paying for any kind of "premium quality". Their motherboards and GPUs are a different story, but budget laptops? Let's be honest. The only thing that is "ASUS" in there is logo, everything else is exactly what you would expect from this category of computer devices: inexpensive electronics, dust-catching plastic chassis and an old AUO display panel.

Companies that do something different for sub-600 USD don't exist, I'm sorry, this is how the life goes. So, if you want something cheap that comes with a discrete GPU, right now your only choice is Pentium/Core i3 paired with GT 740M/GT 745M/GT 840M. We used to have fantastic budget chips like Radeon HD 7670M and 7730M, but you won't find them anymore, and AMD never offered any replacements. "Sun"/"Oland" chip is a joke, and it has a lot of problems on software side as well, so you have to be one sadistic AMD fan to buy this stuff, knowing how badly it performs even in configurations with GDDR5 memory. Mine only works with one specific version of Catalyst driver (dated October 2013), and doesn't even allow me to run a god damn AMD GPGPU tooling (which was the only reason I bought back then). The gaming performance is horrible, no need to say.

I wish things were different, I really do, but AMD don't care about their horrendous PowerXpress/Enduro software, and NVIDIA have a couple of Maxwell chips that work with Optimus out-of-the-box, so...
The 8670M has 384 shaders clocked at 775mhz with a 64bit bus running 2000mhz DDR3. The GPU inside the 5750 can be clocked into the 1Ghz range and if you have 2 sticks of RAM will have a 128bit bus running 1600mhz DDR3. With my lenovo the discrete GPU is DISABLE because the integrated gets more FPS than the R7 M260(basically higher clocked 8670m) and I'm running only 1 stick of 1600mhz DDR3 if I had 2 I'd expect a massive increase in FPS because the iGPU shows very difference going from 600mhz (stock is 533mhz) to 1100mhz because it is bandwidth starved by the 64bit bus it's on. Sure this is a less than ideal solution for most people but it is possible to get a low end AMD laptop and get good GPU performance out of it. You just have to undo all the stupid things the laptop vendor did when they designed it.
 
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