i need your opinion on my computer

[lover_pharaoh2002]

This is not true, am not from Egypt but am Arabic too and Egypt is the leading Arabic country in hardwares importation, they have really ALL with good prices and have a great number of hardcore gamers, and Arabia is not behind the sun lol. Also it depends in the use of the system and the level of the person who will rate his system, in his country, a gamer will give him 6/10, a general user will give him 9/10 '"kick-ass"' like you say.
And i will give you a comparison between my country "Morocco" and "Egypt", here we have only ONE company that sells hardware, so the MAX we can get for a psu's is a corsair 650, for gpu's is the 5770 and for motherboards p6t for 1366 and p7p55d series for 1156, no ssd, that company sells antec 500w for about 180 usd !!! and i7 930 for 550 usd and the list goes on, the situation is critical here and it's much much better in Egypt.
that's all

thank you for your explaination, i didn't like to explain to him because i think he didn't visit egypt before , i think if he done he will change his idea , i can upgrade as i like but the prices here if very high. For example, PhII X4 945 = 160 $ , sapphire hd5750 = 165 $ , Asus M4A785TD-V EVO = 110 $.
I7 920 = 305 $ , sapphire HD5870 = 450 $
i think you know why i didn't get better video card .

 

[Melvis]

Ya system you have there is fine, good all round id say, if you are using it for mainly for gaming on you might want to get a faster GPU, otherwise it will run everything fine.

Yes 13mins is a good time to convert that file my X6 will do it in as little as 8mins.

Also id change the RAM so it will run in dual channel, at the moment yours is running in Single Channel, you can change this in the BIOS. (unganged > Ganged)

Enjoy your rig

 

[ron732]

yes, and i was hesitating becouse i was going to buy PhII X4 955 but i didn't find it but the seller told me if you arn't going to overclocking you'll not find much difference between them and the mobo i got the asus instead of Gigabyte GA-MA785GT-UD3H , he told me asus borad will be better.

Asus and Gigabyte both make great boards. What model Asus do you have? Also could you go to the UserCP and please fill in your system specs. Be sure to make them visible. It will be helpful in the future if you ask for advice.

Like most people have said I would overclock your CPU and maybe try to sell the 5750 and buy a 5850.

 

[Mussels]

The lifespan of a processor may be reduced by higher operating frequencies, increased voltages and heat Stability problems may surface after prolonged usage due to new workloads or untested portions of the processor core. may also result in stability problems after a long period of time. Even when a computer appears to be working normally, problems may arise in the future.
Even with adequate CPU cooling, the excess heat produced by an overclocked processing unit increases the ambient air temperature of the system case; consequently, other components may be affected. Also, more heat will be expelled from the PC's vents, raising the temperature of the room the PC is in - sometimes to uncomfortable levels.
Overclocking a PC component void its warranty .

heh, that sounds like you googled it and copy pasted the answer.

stability is a concern, thats why there are tools designed specifically to test and make sure the OC is stable.

As for heat and lifespan... thats why we use better cooling.

even with warranty, it doesnt void it unless you outright tell them "oh it died while i was OCing it" on the RMA form.


the concerns about heating a room are just laughable, the type of overclock you can achieve on air cooling doesnt heat your room up any more than leaving a standard light globe on would. then theres the that the extra power and heat are only used at load, not at idle... so 90% of the time, you have no extra heat or power consumption to deal with anyway.

 

[Bjorn_Of_Iceland]

Looks good. Just boost up porn collection and your good to go.

 

[DaveK]

The lifespan of a processor may be reduced by higher operating frequencies, increased voltages and heat Stability problems may surface after prolonged usage due to new workloads or untested portions of the processor core. may also result in stability problems after a long period of time. Even when a computer appears to be working normally, problems may arise in the future.
Even with adequate CPU cooling, the excess heat produced by an overclocked processing unit increases the ambient air temperature of the system case; consequently, other components may be affected. Also, more heat will be expelled from the PC's vents, raising the temperature of the room the PC is in - sometimes to uncomfortable levels.
Overclocking a PC component void its warranty .

I bought this E4300 used and the previous owner overclocked it, so it's basically been overclocked since early 2007 and still working fine, even after upping the voltage. Sure, upping the voltage may reduce the lifespan of a processor but they will last for years. As long as you overclock it correctly there won't be any stability issues, overclocking my CPU didn't have an effect on the other components in my case, my HD4650 is still 35C at idle and my Samsung F1 is at around 22C.

Sure, if my PC is on all night on a hot day and doing something CPU intensive, the temperature will rise. Simply opening my window will fix that, but my room gets stuffy even without my PC on.

These aren't disadvantages to overclocking in my opinion, that's just an obscured view on the subject. Anyone who overclocks is fully aware of higher temperatures.

 

[{JNT}Raptor]

heh, that sounds like you googled it and copy pasted the answer.

stability is a concern, thats why there are tools designed specifically to test and make sure the OC is stable.

As for heat and lifespan... thats why we use better cooling.

even with warranty, it doesnt void it unless you outright tell them "oh it died while i was OCing it" on the RMA form.


the concerns about heating a room are just laughable, the type of overclock you can achieve on air cooling doesnt heat your room up any more than leaving a standard light globe on would. then theres the that the extra power and heat are only used at load, not at idle... so 90% of the time, you have no extra heat or power consumption to deal with anyway.

+1 on this.

 

[phanbuey]

The lifespan of a processor may be reduced by higher operating frequencies, increased voltages and heat Stability problems may surface after prolonged usage due to new workloads or untested portions of the processor core. may also result in stability problems after a long period of time. Even when a computer appears to be working normally, problems may arise in the future.
Even with adequate CPU cooling, the excess heat produced by an overclocked processing unit increases the ambient air temperature of the system case; consequently, other components may be affected. Also, more heat will be expelled from the PC's vents, raising the temperature of the room the PC is in - sometimes to uncomfortable levels.
Overclocking a PC component void its warranty .

Yes except all of that is MASSIVELY exaggerated. I mean "raising the temperature of the room the PC is in - sometimes to uncomfortable levels." You would have to be doing something really obscene to make the room hotter by OCing alone.

 

[Dent1]

the seller told me if you arn't going to overclocking you'll not find much difference between them and the mobo

Do you always listen to what the seller says? He is there to make money, do your own research, never listen to the people that are trying to take money from your pockets because they'll tell you anything - not that the seller was incorrect this time.

The lifespan of a processor may be reduced by higher operating frequencies, increased voltages and heat Stability problems may surface after prolonged usage due to new workloads or untested portions of the processor core. may also result in stability problems after a long period of time. Even when a computer appears to be working normally, problems may arise in the future.
Even with adequate CPU cooling, the excess heat produced by an overclocked processing unit increases the ambient air temperature of the system case; consequently, other components may be affected. Also, more heat will be expelled from the PC's vents, raising the temperature of the room the PC is in - sometimes to uncomfortable levels.
Overclocking a PC component void its warranty .

^ Only some of that is correct, you can get components like OCZ memory which encourage overclocking, you will not void your warranty with overclocking OCZ memory. As for overclocking the processor AMD or Intel will not know its been overclocked so even if you did damage the processor (unlikely) you will still be covered by warranty.

As for the temperature issue, yes the temperature is more likely to raise if you increase the voltage which is optional depending on how much stability you need. Even so with a half decent cooler the temperature will not increase significantly, maybe an extra 10-15c which is normally within the safe limits. As for the components life span decreasing, you've got a huge warranty usually between 3 years - lifetime, so you can get a replacement if it dies early. But generally speaking you shouldn’t be keeping a PC for more than 4 years anyways, so why do you care if the components do not last a life-time. Considering that most processor have power saving features like "Cool and Quiet" which underclocks the processor when idle or when its not stressed, this means in theory increase the life span, decrease heat output and general consumption.

PS. there is nothing wrong with the 5750, it isnt high end but it can handle any game today, I would keep it for about a year before replacing it. The 5850 is a great card but the 5750 is enough for now.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

not to mention the fact that you can only pump so much voltage into your processor before you kill it.

there are safety limits on how much voltage you can put through a processor - & a processor can only get so hot with that increased amount of voltage going through it, which means that if your cooling is upto standard this really shouldnt be an issue

but whoever told you... "raising the temperature of the room the PC is in - sometimes to uncomfortable levels. " is either a total idiot & should be banned from touching anything computer related or he lives in a small cupboard or wardrobe with no windows or air vents to let fresh air in.

Or it could just possibly be that he lives in a particularly hot country. eitherway - its common sense. if your ambient room temps are cool - so will your hardware temps to a certain extent but as for it raising it to unconfortable levels. - that would be an genuine issue with the surrounding enviroment, not the pc. unless its in most extreme cases where the owner of the pc may have more then 2 machines with quad SLi'd Nvidia GTX480's

eitherway its nothing to fret about.

not to meantion the biggest advantage to overclocking asside from the performance gain is the price - you can buy low to midrange parts that have been know to hit the same clocks as its more expensive big brothers for a fraction of the cost. which is another reason why almost all of us here overclock

 

[lover_pharaoh2002]

thanks to every one not agree with me , i see alot of you love overcloking, but for me i don't.
i love what i have : the cpu performance never reach 70% when encoding movie and paly games( Transformers - War for Cybertron or Tom Clancys Splinter Cell), why i need to overclocking here !

 

[Kantastic]

Shouldnt you be asking this question before you buy the computer not after when its too late!

It depends what the system is for, its a alright computer, taking into consideration that everything is stock (not overclocked) I would probably rate it a 6.5/10 as a gaming rig, 7.0/10 as an encoding or rendering rig or an 8.0/10 as a general web browsing rig.

PS. That windows performance benchmark is not an indication of performance.

You sure that's accurate there? I don't mean to be rude but there's no way in hell he's getting an 8 out of 10 if that's a general-use computer. I browse the web fine on this 3.2GHz P4 and I usually have 10 tabs open.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

why i need to overclocking here !

because overclocking nets you more performance in everything - more frames per second in gaming/smoother gaming, faster video encoding - might take you 13mins to encode video now - but i bet with overclocking you could get that down to 8-10mins.

overclocking boosts performance in everything you do on the machine asside from internet speed - thats to do with your service provider.

 

[Deleted member 74752]

Yes except all of that is MASSIVELY exaggerated. I mean "raising the temperature of the room the PC is in - sometimes to uncomfortable levels." You would have to be doing something really obscene to make the room hotter by OCing alone.

I often do the obscene...running three different pc's and a cascade at the same time. Gets pretty toasty here.

 

[Dent1]

You sure that's accurate there? I don't mean to be rude but there's no way in hell he's getting an 8 out of 10 if that's a general-use computer. I browse the web fine on this 3.2GHz P4 and I usually have 10 tabs open.

General web browsing rig should of been 9/10, I never give 10/10.

thanks to every one not agree with me , i see alot of you love overcloking, but for me i don't.
i love what i have : the cpu performance never reach 70% when encoding movie and paly games( Transformers - War for Cybertron or Tom Clancys Splinter Cell), why i need to overclocking here !

Nobody is telling you to overclock, we are just saying that your "disadvantages" were either incorrect or exaggerated heavily. Not everyone overclocks and we all respect that but you should understand the benefits of overclocking even if you decide not to do it.

The obvious benefit is you are getting free performance, like you said earlier that it takes "13 minute" to encode a video, with an overclock it might take almost half the time. Also when looking at game performance we measure it in FPS (Frames Per Seconds), the higher and consistent the FPS the smoother the gaming experience, and overclock will allow for a higher FPS. Run 3D Mark’s CPU benchmark or another processor benchmark and I will show you how my CPU matches yours for performance, it shall either come very near or beat it, and it cost me £60-70 less because I overclock it!

Again, we are not telling you to overclock, we are just making you understand the benefits.

 

[Kantastic]

There are no disadvantages to not overclocking, you just don't reap the advantages.

 

[HossHuge]

lover_pharaoh2002, I have a PII 945 and an Asus M4A79XTD EVO. It's close to the same set-up as yours and I am able to overclock to 3.8. You should be able to reach 3.4-3.5 at stock volts.

Think about it.....everyone likes getting free SPEED...

 

[phanbuey]

lover_pharaoh2002, I have a PII 945 and an Asus M4A79XTD EVO. It's close to the same set-up as yours and I am able to overclock to 3.8. You should be able to reach 3.4-3.5 at stock volts.

Think about it.....everyone likes getting free SPEED...

not everyone... some people dont like speed. Especially free speed.

 

[lover_pharaoh2002]

Ya system you have there is fine, good all round id say, if you are using it for mainly for gaming on you might want to get a faster GPU, otherwise it will run everything fine.

Yes 13mins is a good time to convert that file my X6 will do it in as little as 8mins.

Also id change the RAM so it will run in dual channel, at the moment yours is running in Single Channel, you can change this in the BIOS. (unganged > Ganged)

Enjoy your rig

thank you for your advice but i look for (unganged > Ganged) in the bios but i didn't find it, if you can explain to me how to and the benefit of it?

 

[hat]

There are no disadvantages to not overclocking, you just don't reap the advantages.

Not getting advantages is a disadvantage in my book, hehe

 

[Mussels]

thank you for your advice but i look for (unganged > Ganged) in the bios but i didn't find it, if you can explain to me how to and the benefit of it?

IIRC, it either runs your memory controller as 2x64 bit or 1x128 bit.

the idea being that with a multi core CPU, more memory controllers means less chance of a bottleneck, as opposed to fastest performance for a singe thread/core

 

[Melvis]

thank you for your advice but i look for (unganged > Ganged) in the bios but i didn't find it, if you can explain to me how to and the benefit of it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual-channel

Increase in bandwidth to sum it up.

I wouldn't be to sure in the BIOS on your Mobo, but it should be in the area where you can tweak settings, like increase ram speed, CPU speed etc, look for it in there.

 

[DaveK]

thanks to every one not agree with me , i see alot of you love overcloking, but for me i don't.
i love what i have : the cpu performance never reach 70% when encoding movie and paly games( Transformers - War for Cybertron or Tom Clancys Splinter Cell), why i need to overclocking here !

Well your encoding a standard definition DVD rip to QVGA, that's not very demanding. My dual core converts movies to a higher resolution than that at the same speeds of around 100FPS.