1. Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

I own 2560 x 1440, images are smaller, how will 4k even be usable?

Discussion in 'General Hardware' started by Phusius, Apr 24, 2012.

  1. Phusius

    Phusius New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2012
    Messages:
    1,318 (1.57/day)
    Thanks Received:
    380
    In any game, etc, everything is smaller and more condensed on 1440, if my understanding is correct 4k would be super tiny...

    just curious, any pro's know?
  2. Jizzler

    Jizzler

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2007
    Messages:
    3,387 (1.34/day)
    Thanks Received:
    632
    Location:
    Geneva, FL, USA
    Some have UI scaling options, others do not, especially older games. In those cases you'll want to run at quarter resolution on a 4K monitor. Ex: 1920x1200 or 1920x1080.

    Can you list some of the games you're playing? There may be patches (official or fan-made) that address the issue.
  3. Kreij

    Kreij Senior Monkey Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2007
    Messages:
    13,881 (5.12/day)
    Thanks Received:
    5,615
    Location:
    Cheeseland (Wisconsin, USA)
    Depends upon the size of the monitor too.
    4K on a 24" screen that can run that resolution is going to be small (given no UI scaling).
    4K on an 80" LCD TV, not so much. :)
    mjkmike says thanks.
  4. 3870x2

    3870x2

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2008
    Messages:
    4,875 (2.10/day)
    Thanks Received:
    689
    Location:
    Joplin, Mo
    In the future support for this will be possible, right now it is far from being mainstream for even the most tech savvy.

    UI scaling or small icons are your choices.
  5. alexsubri

    alexsubri New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2010
    Messages:
    1,391 (0.86/day)
    Thanks Received:
    199
    [​IMG]
  6. Phusius

    Phusius New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2012
    Messages:
    1,318 (1.57/day)
    Thanks Received:
    380
    all I know is when I play Modern Warfare 3 in 1080p my gun, everything on screen is bigger. in 1440p my gun and everything else is a little smaller, albeit, much better picture. 1440 really is a sweet spot imo, 4k my gun is gonna be so tiny lol
  7. Soup

    Soup New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2011
    Messages:
    159 (0.16/day)
    Thanks Received:
    71
    Location:
    'merica
    There's your problem... :laugh:
    AlienIsGOD and DonInKansas say thanks.
  8. Huddo93

    Huddo93 New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2011
    Messages:
    299 (0.30/day)
    Thanks Received:
    57
    Location:
    Perth, WA, Australia
    Its obviously going to have to be addressed once this jump to 4k resolution does come into play. Software manufactures will need to allow the image to use more of the pixels, which is where the problem currently lies.

    Basically, each icon/image is a set number of pixels. So if you gain a higher resolution screen, ofcourse things are going to look smaller as you have a higher pixel density. So basically until the program allows for higher resolution icons/images this problem will keep occurring.

    But to be fair even 2560x1600 is not yet a common resolution let alone 4k, so why would software companies bother? its just not feasible yet.
  9. Cotton_Cup

    Cotton_Cup

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2012
    Messages:
    378 (0.45/day)
    Thanks Received:
    35
    Location:
    Rizal, Philippines
    you should try 10 monitor setup at 2560x1440 each = 25600x1440 if you line them up in 1 line but if you will be putting them in 2 sets


    1 line: = = = = = = = = = = (these are monitor)

    2 sets:
    = = = = =
    = = = = =

    if it's like this it should be in this resolution (12800x2880) someone should correct me on this part as I'm not sure with this. but it would be awesome ^_^

    btw just wondering can dual gtx680 sli work on 10/12 monitors? like circling a monitor around you or something, might look weird but really just curious, might try it out if I get some cash for monitors seeing as milk prices won't go up as high as they are now.
  10. Jizzler

    Jizzler

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2007
    Messages:
    3,387 (1.34/day)
    Thanks Received:
    632
    Location:
    Geneva, FL, USA
    Visual changes to the UI I can understand - games handle this in a number of ways. But the gun? That shouldn't happen. Aspect ratio is the same, so FOV shouldn't be a factor.

    Perhaps it's a just a perceived difference because of your viewing distance and/or size of the two monitors? What size are they, and how far away are you from them?

    It could also be something else, I've never played MW3.


    You are correct, it would be awesome :)

    Check out some past awesomeness:

    http://www.plastk.net/2009/01/warcraft-2.html
    http://semiaccurate.com/2009/09/10/ati-eyefinity-runs-wow-at-7k-resolution/

    Short answer: Yes, kindof.

    Long answer: It greatly depends on a lot of factors.
    Last edited: Apr 27, 2012
  11. Cotton_Cup

    Cotton_Cup

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2012
    Messages:
    378 (0.45/day)
    Thanks Received:
    35
    Location:
    Rizal, Philippines
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Cotton_Cup
    if it's like this it should be in this resolution (12800x2880) someone should correct me on this part as I'm not sure with this. but it would be awesome ^_^
    You are correct, it would be awesome

    Check out some past awesomeness:

    http://www.plastk.net/2009/01/warcraft-2.html
    http://semiaccurate.com/2009/09/10/a...7k-resolution/

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Cotton_Cup
    btw just wondering can dual gtx680 sli work on 10/12 monitors? like circling a monitor around you or something, might look weird but really just curious, might try it out if I get some cash for monitors seeing as milk prices won't go up as high as they are now.
    Short answer: Yes, kindof.

    Long answer: It greatly depends on a lot of factors.[/quote]


    omg wow those are awesome.

    was actually thinking of setting up 10/12 monitors and see where my dual gtx680 can go(won't be buying them) hopefully some of my friends and lend me a few monitor at least 7 monitors for this king of set up === = === (don't know might need a 7970 or something for this) so far with buying a gaming headset or a earphone and a mic, and a good ups and those expensive milk for my kid and other stuff can't spare much for another monitor >.<
  12. Jizzler

    Jizzler

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2007
    Messages:
    3,387 (1.34/day)
    Thanks Received:
    632
    Location:
    Geneva, FL, USA
    Make sure to look up more multi-display setups to see how they did it. Some of the configurations are tailored for only a single game.

    For better all-around support and an easier setup, could stay with the current limits of Eyefinity or Surround Gaming.

    Having a 3-across or 5-across plus optional accessory monitor is still pretty ballin' :D

    If raw size is what you're after, don't forget projectors!
  13. xBruce88x

    xBruce88x

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2009
    Messages:
    2,356 (1.37/day)
    Thanks Received:
    544
    haha yea a bunch of projectors would be pretty sweet. No bezel to get in the way!

    @OP, hopefully windows 8, or 9 will be better with DPI scaling due to them being used on tablets and such now, and therefore games as well.
  14. Cotton_Cup

    Cotton_Cup

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2012
    Messages:
    378 (0.45/day)
    Thanks Received:
    35
    Location:
    Rizal, Philippines
    hmm yeah projector sounds good but don't they give bad display if you have ordinary wall or something? like a yellowish white or so
  15. xBruce88x

    xBruce88x

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2009
    Messages:
    2,356 (1.37/day)
    Thanks Received:
    544
    yea you'd probably have to adjust them 1 by 1... could be a PITA haha but in the end it could be worth it. esp if you can just set the settings the same for all of them.

    then again the cost of that many projectors would make you think twice
  16. Jizzler

    Jizzler

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2007
    Messages:
    3,387 (1.34/day)
    Thanks Received:
    632
    Location:
    Geneva, FL, USA
    A friend of mine has a 1080 projector and his wall is an off-white. Picture is "good", though just one coat of white would improve it.

    Bulb cost may be high depending on how much you use it, though that same friend watches a ton of movies/games and I don't think he's replace it in two years. Paid about $1200 for the projector I believe. That could buy a handful of monitors, but at 100", it's still amazing to watch! Can only imagine two or three of them :D

    I'd love to do something like that, but there's no good walls in my house for it ;)
  17. xBruce88x

    xBruce88x

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2009
    Messages:
    2,356 (1.37/day)
    Thanks Received:
    544
    If i had the money for such a setup i'd probably have a drop down screen for them to project onto
  18. Cotton_Cup

    Cotton_Cup

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2012
    Messages:
    378 (0.45/day)
    Thanks Received:
    35
    Location:
    Rizal, Philippines
    well even at 1920x1080 resolution on a 100" view from the projector i wouldn't mind paying 1,200$ for an amazing view ^_^ but are there projectors with bigger resolutions? if yes, anyone got any idea?

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 2 (0 members and 2 guests)

Share This Page