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i7 920 VS PII 955

Discussion in 'General Hardware' started by n-ster, Jun 28, 2009.

  1. n-ster

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    I don't understand why people get mad about these types of thread... I could have said... I'm buying a new comp soon, which should I choose and I guess you guys wouldn't get mad would you

    a "low end" i7 mobo (ex:ud3 from gig) is a very good mobo nonetheless...

    "You pretty much need water to get higher than 3.6 on an i7 setup..."

    False... with the new D0s, some actually go 4.2 on air.... A scythe mugen 2 or s1283V are great coolers for example..

    Indeed, upgradeability seems better for am3... only way to upgrade from i7 920 would be looking at Xeon chips I believe? Still... it will be hard to upgrade later

    How come you all say it will start a flame war? Why? Because I thought that this forum was pretty mature not to start one... All I wanted to do was to compare both setups... When I did, I was surprised by the little price difference vs. the big performance difference... So I was guessing that either what I said was true, or that I was missing something...
     
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    IMO i7 is for people with lots of money...
     
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    Then why do you say this at the end of almost all of your posts? You shouldn't have to reinstate yourself like that unless you're incredibly insecure about it.

    The CPU's maybe priced similar, but the platform total cost is not. A good motherboard for an AM3 setup is only 110$, a great motherboard is 130$ and an enthusiast motherboard is 170-200$. It's much different on the Intel side. Lowest end they have is 180$, and who wants a cheap ass board for the most powerful CPU in the world? Another thing to consider is cooling. You pretty much need water to get higher than 3.6 on an i7 setup.. Trust me, I've tried. They get super hot. RAM is kinda moot since DDR3 4gb kits and 3gb kits are priced near the same.
     
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    How is that? It costs about $100 more for an i7/mobo setup vs a 955/mobo combo. Even if you WC a 955 setup w/ the best motherboard you can get for the money, you're still not going to beat an air cooled lightly overclocked i7.
     
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    also look into future upgrades

    am3 = 550be > 720be > 955be > maybe the 965

    i7 = 920 > 950 > 975 > ?
    i7 is going to be high end and the 920/950 will be phased out
    you can only make this argument till they disappear then what?
    when you want to upgrade are you going to pay $1k for a cpu?

    this thread is useless IMO
    Its only starting a flame war

    Its not going to stop, you made a 955 vs i7 thread

    it sure does sound like your a fan boy

    this thread should be closed
     
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    Binge Overclocking Surrealism

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    Nobody asked you to start this crap. Of all the sh*tty ideas for a thread this one has been done 3 times now and I'm sick of it. Done.
     
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    fail.
     
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    This thread will be closed as soon as a moderator for this section shows up. Please refrain for posting anything else here, or you may end up with an infraction.
     
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    Hi, I'm new to this forum although I do look around sometimes...

    Well, I myself am actually debating whether I should go the i7 route like it seems n-ster favors, or go PII 940 with am2+ or perhaps PII 955 when the 965 comes out or maybe wait a little bit and go PII 965 when it comes down in price (unless it comes at 250$?)

    I and n-ster are neighbors (in Montreal), so n-ster will be getting the parts for me from the US, and he says he can go to Microcenter no problem...

    Also, I did a quick search, and the only pII 955 vs i7 thread I've seen was dated a long time ago... what are the other threads? I'd like to take a look at them...

    And n-ster, why did you delete your previous OP? it seems like it was still relevant!

    Oh and sorry to say this, but you people seem to be mean to him lol... I don't see a flame war... only people who are trying to insult the OP because of his thread!
     
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    Hey guys, why don't we all jump in a bus, go to his house and kick him in the pants and beat him with baseball bats when he falls over? :shadedshu

    It seems to me that all he was trying to do was carefully analyze the total cost of one platform against the other. We all know that the i7 series is faster than AMD's offerings at this point, but it's up to you, the individual, to decide wether the cost is worth the performance gain, and this thread is/was here to help make that decision.
     
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    Thank you for your post Hat, and thank you Fazou for backing me up too lol :p Good thing you started another thread :p

    Well to summarize what I had posted earlier,

    sorry for the no sentences lol... just did that fast
     
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    Nothing in AMD's lineup is meant to compete with i7.
     
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    sorry typo lol I meant to say "PII 955 isn't meant to compete with i7, yet the i7 competes with PII 955 in price?"
     
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    a noob would say the 955 is better, because its a higher number :) i think i would personally go for the 955 though, more overclockable, and cheaper after the price cut, and also a cheaper motherboard (crosshair III), BUT if youre doing more multi tasking stuff, go with i7
     
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    This statement doesn't even make sense to me. If it's not meant to compete with i7 than what is it competing against? PII is already just as fast, if not faster now than the Core 2 series. I fail to believe that AMD just throws in the towel after they pass Core 2.
     
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    seems like a legit thread to me.
    i'd definately pick the Phenom II 955
    people who are "light" users will probably find no use for the power of an i7
    even a 2.0 ghz dual core is speedy for me =]
    i don't think this thread deserves closing
     
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    More overclockable? really? Because the i7 920 D0's can go 4ghz on air quite easily these days... I'm not sure about PII 955 though.

    "and also a cheaper motherboard (crosshair III)" isn't that 200$?

    "a noob would say the 955 is better, because its a higher number :)"

    Ah yes... I was one back in December 2008 :p

    Thank you el mayo...

    perhaps, but in that case I don't think i7 or PII 955 would be good choices at all!

    Well, the fact is that if it was supposed to compete with i7, then it failed to do so performance wise...

    What they are successful to do is to get more customers who think higher ghz is always better... Very smart...
     
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    tbh.. a 720BE is the best option
    IMO
     
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    Well I certainly don't see anything that has brought mine down to it's knees. I just use my PC for gaming and internet and the occasional photo or video editing. For 120$, you simply cannot go wrong.
     
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    Agreed :) I've always said to myself, 720BE or i7... nothing in between... :D This depends on the use and all, but generally it is a good way to go :p But I love perf/$, and 720BE definitively has that!
     
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    lmao i love how i can say the 720BE is a good choice, without actually ever using one
    and everyone agrees! :D
     
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    Contradicting yourself?

    955 was never to compete i7 it was a price for performance when it came out

    we wouldnt be having this talk back on release day
     
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    Which leads to the point that the 955 is overpriced for general users unless of course you already own an AM3 board and want the best for it.
     
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    nono I said IF that were true, then it failed... but it wasn't anyways

    That is what I wanted to point out erocker!

    If your buying all new, I do not see how the PII 955 is attracting compared to the i7!
     
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    I'm pretty sure they're dropping the 955 to around 200$. The gap between it and the 720 is just way to big. And I saw an article saying the same thing a few days ago :p The 965 should be at the 240-250$ range then.
     

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