i7 system

[Kenshai]

Why anyone would go with 3GB and a 64-bit OS is beyond me. You don't get an i7 build with 3GB...

When did I say it was? I was referring to the the fact that it supports more than 4GB of ram, so there's no longer that factor holding you back. Running 6GB in triple channel will provide a noticeable improvement over 3GB.

It seems you thought that's all it was, basically stating that 64 bit is pointless with only 3 gigs of ram.


Oh and another benchmark.here

 

[n-ster]

Yes, 3.6 vs 3.8 but all are above 70 fps minus crysis.

But I still think i7 is more powerful... I think everyone agrees... and in that case it should be better when CPU starts bottlenecking GPUs... since by the time 720BE will be a bottleneck, i7 won't be so much of a bottleneck and will have a good time to stay...

P.S: I don't take benches that keep an i7 un overclocked very seriously since this is not my situation

 

[Kenshai]

But I still think i7 is more powerful... I think everyone agrees... and in that case it should be better when CPU starts bottlenecking GPUs... since by the time 720BE will be a bottleneck, i7 won't be so much of a bottleneck and will have a good time to stay...

But even a crossfire 4870 runs just fine on a 720be, so I really don't see much of a reason of going with i7 unless you need the processing power, which for gaming you don't need. Just you're hell bent on i7 because it's shiny, and has the ability to be a multi tasking god, but from what I understand you won't use it.

I'm not saying don't get it, I'm saying for your use, it'll be better to get a phenom.

 

[erocker]

I don't see the point anymore. You have more than enough information to make a decision that is yours and yours only. Good luck and let us know how your build goes.

 

[n-ster]

I don't see the point anymore. You have more than enough information to make a decision that is yours and yours only. Good luck and let us know how your build goes.

Thanks but I still might need help on other stuff... Actually, I think imana not get any GPU for now and wait until august or wtv and look at 5xxx and GT300

I may get some of theses fans instead... maybe like get 10 for less than 40$ ship included and have an incredibly cooled case

 

[fire2havoc]

It seems you thought that's all it was, basically stating that 64 bit is pointless with only 3 gigs of ram.

Most people who go for an i7 build choose 6GB of RAM. The reason being that most of those people are 'upgrading' from 4GB DDR2 to 6GB DDR3 (triple channel). When DDR3 prices have been dropping significantly in the past months, why go with 3GB?

It's your choice. I'm not going to try to force you to get 6GB...

 

[n-ster]

Most people who go for an i7 build choose 6GB of RAM. The reason being that most of those people are 'upgrading' from 4GB DDR2 to 6GB DDR3 (triple channel). When DDR3 prices have been dropping significantly in the past months, why go with 3GB?

It's your choice. I'm not going to try to force you to get 6GB...

3gb is basically half the price of 6gb... so I think I'll get 3gb now and maybe 3gb later... Might also only get 1 HD and maybe another later...

no I think I might as well get 6gb now...

omfg idk.. but I think I will

 

[A Cheese Danish]

If you can afford it and really *want* it, then go for it. Otherwise, I think erocker said, 3GB is plenty for everything now, even with an i7.

 

[n-ster]

Might go 6gb because of this

 

[zAAm]

The system you want to build is very similar to the one I have atm. I went for the 6GB because personally I upgraded from 3GB DDR400 and I wanted to make sure it lasted. The moment you want to upgrade to 6GB in the future you will have to sell your old 1GB modules and get 2GB ones. (I didn't check your mobo, this would not be a problem if it has 6 slots). Mine only has 4 so I went for the full 6GB. The 4870 1GB would also run pretty much all your games fine at high quality. I would only get another 4870 if the games really started to become insane. And DX11 cards on on their way as well, so I would stick to a single 4870 for now.
Only place you're going to best me is with that Xigmatek... haha. I'm trying to find a TRUE RT1366 here in SA but it's proving to be a knightmare.
Good luck!

Edit: I have to admit though I'm a serious multi-tasker and my memory usage in Windows 7 is rarely under 55% which is already more than 3GB. It can easily run up to 80% when I'm playing a game...

 

[Tatty_Two]

I thought GTX 275 is about same performance as GTX 280~285? I may be wrong though... I think I saw they were very close anyways, so yea, PhysX is a bonus... Your killing me Fit! not I gotta make my decision faster... i7 or no i7

I think that if my Dad says no, I'll probably just get some budget system ... or maybe not... idk lol.. I prefer quality stuff usually...

PS: I can get the ECS from Fit at 160$
The crucials or super talent I showed somewhere (I get mixed in threads lol) will do very good clocks... probably better then the Gskills... oh and do you see it's cheaper?

Isn't the comparaison between 4890 and gtx 275?

Having owned both the 4890 and 275 (sold the 4890, now selling the 275) they are in direct competition, the GTX260 is fast and does in 192SP guise at least, tend to clock better than the 275, damn I had a Gainward 192SP GTX260 that scored me 22,040 in 2006 at 800mhz core, I beleive in the US the 275 is a little more $ than the 4890, generally in the UK it is the opposite, the 275 at stock from my experience is a little quicker than the 4890 at stock but at max overclocks that slight gap opens up a little more, I couldnt get my 4890 to 1ghz, she did 990mhz but that against a GTX275 at 740mhz in synthetics does not come close and in COD Waw I was getting about 6FPS more with the 275 but for all that, the 4890 seemed kind of more composed and smooth..... the difference if you dont bench is not really noticeable so I would always advise going for the cheapest option unless of course you are folding/crunching.

 

[Kenshai]

Might go 6gb because of this

If anything that review would lead me away from 6 gigs of ram because those are really the only games that are going to take up that much memory, a modern mmo and crysis. Honestly it's your choice so, as I said before you're set on something, so you'll go with it no matter what we say

 

[n-ster]

If anything that review would lead me away from 6 gigs of ram because those are really the only games that are going to take up that much memory, a modern mmo and crysis. Honestly it's your choice so, as I said before you're set on something, so you'll go with it no matter what we say

Yea... modern games will take a lot of RAM... and future games will too...

I was seriously thinking getting 3gb, but I realize it will be easier to get 6gb, and it won't hinder anything compared to if I had to fill all 6 slots later.

And please to compare me to u2k

 

[n-ster]

Having owned both the 4890 and 275 (sold the 4890, now selling the 275) they are in direct competition, the GTX260 is fast and does in 192SP guise at least, tend to clock better than the 275, damn I had a Gainward 192SP GTX260 that scored me 22,040 in 2006 at 800mhz core, I beleive in the US the 275 is a little more $ than the 4890, generally in the UK it is the opposite, the 275 at stock from my experience is a little quicker than the 4890 at stock but at max overclocks that slight gap opens up a little more, I couldnt get my 4890 to 1ghz, she did 990mhz but that against a GTX275 at 740mhz in synthetics does not come close and in COD Waw I was getting about 6FPS more with the 275 but for all that, the 4890 seemed kind of more composed and smooth..... the difference if you dont bench is not really noticeable so I would always advise going for the cheapest option unless of course you are folding/crunching.

They are both the same price... which one yields better MINIMUM fps?

 

[Assassin48]

just go with the cheaper of the two

I don't think 6fps is going to matter that much
I would build evwrything first then find the GPU

Go with the 1gh 4890 IMO

 

[n-ster]

tell me which one is cheaper...
249.99 or 249.99

If they are so close, I would get the GTX since it has some bonuses I MIGHT one day use... PhysX in games maybe?

 

[DRDNA]

Go with i7 ALL DAY LONG! I would also say get the 6GB kit ...I was on a 3 GB kit and couldn't wait to buy a 6GB kit! IMO the i7 is more advanced than what AMD is offering right now......hitting 4GHZ is very easy with i7 not so with the competition.

 

[n-ster]

did you see any difference between 3gb and 6gb?

 

[Tatty_Two]

They are both the same price... which one yields better MINIMUM fps?

Nothing in it regarding minimum, of course my tests were only with COD WaW,2006 and Vantage so I cant talk across the board, but in average and highest FPS the 275 was ahead at both stock and overclocked against the same for the 4890 but not by much, average 3fps, max 6fps.

 

[n-ster]

Nothing in it regarding minimum, of course my tests were only with COD WaW,2006 and Vantage so I cant talk across the board, but in average and highest FPS the 275 was ahead at both stock and overclocked against the same for the 4890 but not by much, average 3fps, max 6fps.

good enough for me