Discussion in 'Games' started by qubit, Jan 7, 2012.
Something to mull over:
If it sell's it sell's, folk aren't in it to show off its to make money
To an extent true but FIFA 11 vs FIFA 12 is night and day, plus its only a year between games.
Multi player is a massive selling point, you dont need to look far to see where the money is just now.
Not to mention the time for delelpoment on the big story titles, the cash put in etc
On the money, I got orcs must die as I was only ever playing big titles, thought I would try something else.....28hours of gameplay later and I'm still not done
Gaming is alive and well, something for everyone and plenty of it.. looks like the "long time gamer" has been gaming to long
In other words it is easier to keep making the crap they are and sell it at a high price than to come up with NEW stuff and Single player games are harder to make as a story line has to be told in MP there is no story just conquest . Sounds as if they are making excuses to me . Lack of imagination and laziness just to make a buck .
It is what it is, have no doubt....or stop gaming, Ive been doing the same job for 14 years, I will keep doing the same thing to make money....I wont be gambling my future when what I do puts cars on the road and food in mouths for my family, why should they?
New upcoming dev's can make the new up coming stuff....the big boys make money with what has been proven
Making things that people want to buy is better than making this people are stuck buying . Knowing the difference makes a world filled with new things that are improvements on the old . Doing the same old thing all the time is just lazy and it forces people into a rut that YOU designed !
You are (not you, everyone) not stuck buying, its your hard earned, you choose what to do with it.
Really ? I think you are wrong . If the gaming industry just repaints and re-brands the same old tired crap and sells it as " NEW and Improved " Then yes we are forced to buy it . And if we did not buy it you would not be able to buy that new car or put food on the table . So look at what you said .
Quite the opposite actually. I choose what i want to spend my money on. I have NEVER bought a MW game because of what you just stated above, nor am I forced to go out and purchase it.
I care little for new and improved, I loved Assassin Creed, I would have bought Assassin Creed 2,3 and 4 if they had no changes apart from a different story, I didnt buy Uncharted 3 I rented it as I wasnt sure if I could keep going.
FIFA 11 is a good game, FIFA 12 blows it out the water.
If someone is forcing you to do things you dont want to do then you should phone the police...
OFFICER: Yes sir can I help?
YOU: Yes, I was forced to spend my money on a game I thought I wanted to play, but I find it to much like the first one.
OFFICER: yes sir we will get right on that, would you like an incident number?
YOU: no thank you I just got tweeted that a map pack was out for it I must run and get it
OFFICER: Sir are you now reporting a crime in progress
YOU: yes please help me.....
Im a database admin/Tech support , stop buying games...I dont care
The golden age of gaming is over. Now 75% of the devs and publishers are all money grabbing whores. Its gotten too mainstream to where now like any business rather then making games for fun and what not, its for the money now.
Hmm yes over, love the battlefield 3 sig,
I guess you missed my point . Sorry you just don't get it . Lets see maybe like this . If AMD and Intel stopped making new CPU's right now Just stopped inventing new tech and we say were stuck with the same stuff we have now for say 5 years , Yet all they did was rename re-brand and stick new numbers at the end , Would you not still have no other choice than to buy what is available ? Not that you would know but that you would not have a real choice !
makes no sense whatsoever. No one is forcing you to part with your cash. youre the one who decides to what to spend it on.
secondly jumping from a $30-50 game to a car that can cost anywhere from $500 & even higher if you dont want a second or 3rd hand banger of a car. and thats a pretty big jump from a $30 disc you just put in your pc.
If you dont buy the game you can still put food on the table. Inflation is high and everyday goods can be considered a little expensive but not everyone is completely priced out of the market quite yet.
$30-50 can feed me for almost upto two weeks so long as im careful.
Yes I would, I would have all the choices in the world.
Choose not to buy it, choose to keep what you have...
Hmm go play football or chill watching a film...whatever
NO ONE IS FORCING ANYONE TO BUY THE ITEM!
I give up . Well you are right no one is forcing me to do any thing . But in the end there will be no more gaming industry . NOW that is forcing the gaming industry out of business . !
you are still wrong. the gaming industry will never go out of business so long as Activision (& other devs) charge subscription fees to play its games.
Hides in a corner throwing money at them cos I love it ....more please sir.
Gaming is stagnant. Just like music films or everything else. "Audience" is not the same like it was in the 90s, when only "geeks" had internet and computers and kewl consoles. Gaming became a cheap pornography, figuratively speaking. Series all become predictable: better graphics -> shiny stuff -> shorter duration -> more linear -> more lame plot -> needs more space -> dlc and other exclusive crap -> devs milking their cashcows. I played a lot of new games and didn't find anything revolutionary or ground breaking. The only exclusion was ... maybe Heavy Rain.
Also....console ports are still considered games which ever way you look at it.
as long as they keep releasing ports, we wont require ungodly hardware to run them which means the hardware industy loses out more then the gaming industry.
I think its the console market were they can just release any old crap and they will sell. The console market is much bigger, and has a much bigger age range(kids to adults) than the pc market, just look at all the crappy games for consoles aimed at kids. Plus console games can cost £50 so they make more money on them for less sales.
PC is easier for devs starting out though
Wish they would port gears 2 & 3, no market left for 2 now let PC gamers get it, it will be pirated like black beards wife but at least they will make some more cash out it.
Devs would always like to charge you more for less content. they charge £50 on consoles because piracy tends to be a lot lower on consoles then on the PC and they know they can get their moneys worth from kids telling mommie and daddie what they want for christmas or birthday etc etc etc. and thats the weakness in the market they are exploiting.
main reason i never got into console gaming = lack of 8-15year olds bitching and whining when I pwn them. not saying that doesnt happen in PC games, but the figures are significantly a lot less.
Obviously im not trying to pull the thread into a console vs pc argument...If you like the consoles then more power to you - I dont really give a shit, but youre ruining my gaming experience by just existing so just curl up and die so we can revive the gaming industry and push pc gaming into full HD gaming that requires beastly machines to run some real nice graphics!
That right there makes my heart warm.
I'm buying stock in Milton Bradley...Tried and true board games are makin' a comeback baby!!! My cheap wooden table can play all the best board games life has to offer.
I'm probably not serious.. But maybe I am? I sure do love the internet.
Not to simply repeat what everyone else here is saying but the days when a relatively small team of people could put together a computer game are gone. Now to release the sort of games which appeal to us gamers en masse, it generally takes millions of bucks of investment. This means the money men have the control and they want maximal returns for their investment.
Having said that, the best games around today are far better than the best games have ever been. Battlefield 3, The Witcher 2, Pro Evolution Soccer 2012, Deus Ex HR all surpass anything that has went before in thier respective genres. The problem is that these days there is not so many great games to choose from as there was in the past which is perhaps what makes all the unimaginative bland games which simply attempt to clone each other stand out a lot more. I have been an avid gamer for around 25 years and can vouch that there has always been a shed load more mediocre games than truly excellent games in circulation.
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