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Intel Core i7-3970X Extreme Arrives in Q4

Discussion in 'News' started by btarunr, Jul 23, 2012.

  1. Dj-ElectriC

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    marketing 1% to sell the others...
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    allot in rendering and compiling
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    yep... just a Maybach....(secretly building a needlessly overpowered. System)
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    haha so true :toast:
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    1% of Intel's CPU biz inflames 99% of posters?!

    OCCUPY SNB-E !

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    I like my 3820, thank you. :confused:
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    thanks for 100mhz more
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    Ah, my bad. For less then $400, under 100W TDP and packaged water loop to right?
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    Oh, my bad, I thought you knew this was an enthusiast site.

    I'll happily pay a shitload for an unlocked 8c/16t chip. I already have the watercooling though, so thanks anyway.
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    Good to many people labeling themselves as enthusiasts asking for top tier gear then when the price for said top gear drops they complain its to expensive. Remember the "i want GTX 690s for $600?"
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    But I wasn't complaining about the price, only the locked multipliers. Were you thinking of posts by others?
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    Yes, it was based generally on the type of complains that often come up. I didn't mean to attack you personally.

    But to get back on topic, If they do make a 8c/16t unlocked I7 chip wouldn't it cannibalize on the sale of the xeons which probably have a higher profit margin?

    Also such part would probably cost upwards of $1200 at what point does buying a dual socket 2011 mobo and sticking two quads or hexacores in there becomes more beneficial? That's assuming the work needed to be done is multi threaded.
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    Even for rendering it's not a clear win for SB-E. A 3770k get's you 75% of the performance for 60% of the power. If you're building a farm that's the way I'd go, and not just for power savings but the initial investment is easily half as much.
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    Most situations that would have a person or business considering Xeons, wouldn't have them considering the unlocked 8c. The Xtreme line is not multi socket compatible for one example, and they aren't rated for as extreme of conditions as Xeons.

    Plus, many of us just like OCing. For serious work, I would build a 16c 2p system. For fun I would build the 8c unlocked system.
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    i know they are very expensive but they should no do 1% business they will do .5%
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    This is where I laugh. Would you rather get a 8c Xeon that costs 1,300 USD or more (up to 2,000) or would you want a P2 16c AMD Interlagos rig with 32c total? Honestly, because two Interlagos chips will cost just as much as a single 8c Xeon. In normal cases it's a lot of power for any normal user, but someone who does rendering or OLAP might want something like that, but obviously not for overclocking. At this point whatever software you're going to be running clearly likes more threads and how could you turn down 16 more threads for the same price, because for multi-threaded workloads Interlagos shines.

    I think this pisses off all the people who normally wouldn't get an EE chip, so that 1% probably will stay at 1%.
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    Use P4 for a year and then upgrade it to the 2600 you will see improvements:D
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    Same here.
    I'm looking forward to IVB-E, not necessarily more cores. If intel were to release a 4c/8t IVB-E right now, I would be all over it.
    Besides, this 3820 is pretty cherry and as soon as i go water 5GHz+ 24/7 doesn't seem out of the question. That should more than compensate for being two cores shy of the others, except in benchmarks, and it'll draw less power and make less heat than a 6c/12t chip.

    EDIT: It seems to me that a lot of people nowadays just think "hurr durr, more cores = better." This is only the case if you have software that is multi-threaded and can utilize your multiple cores. Even still, most(non-workstation) multi-threaded software around currently is only dual-threaded, with a small percentage being quad-threaded or more. Even most high-end games are only quad-threaded, so why buy a hexa-core processor for anything but benchmarking or workstation work? It just doesn't make sense to me:shadedshu
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    The extra L3 per core helps and the quad-channel memory makes sure that none of the cores get starved for memory bandwidth too. Its got a strong IMC, plenty of PCI-E lanes, and loaded with features (I'm digging the VT-d and being able to overclock.) It really is a great platform if you get a nice motherboard and doesn't cost too much over a maxed out 1155 rig. I think it was worth it. :cool:
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    comparing my old I7 965 vs my 2x Xeon E5520 the improvement has increased allot on the heavy cpu tasked aplications i use
    also i can OC my xeons
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    Yes but you can't overclock LGA 2011 Xeons, that's what started the discussion.

    I strongly agree with Wile E, Intel should push out an extreme edition 8c/16t because 3MB of L3 cache can't justify the price jump from 3930K to 3960X/3970X.
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    Are "X" Models are also Unlocked chips like "K" ?
    btw, "X" are very expensive
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    Extreme SKUs (X) have always been multiplier unlocked and they were the only CPUs unlocked from Intel until K SKUs started to come out.

    I agree that they are very expensive but when the 980X came out the performance was too yummy for me to pass.

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