Discussion in 'News' started by btarunr, Oct 31, 2012.
seems to be alot of vid cards just for a small monitor
4-way SLI just has e-peen written all over it.
Any reviews yet?
I would not expect any performance surprise over a 3930K or 3960X, it's just a higher clocked 3960X, maybe they refined it with another stepping so it could clock higher but that's all.
And what about SB-E vs IVB?
Its no question the SB-E products are far the superior chip to IvB. The question is are you willing to spend the money for the HexaCore 2011 vs QuadCore 1155.
And I'm pretty positive that when the HexaCore IvB will out perform Haswell 1150. The only issue being Haswell will have a pretty nifty iGPU.
Why yes, yes I am.
i do not understand
Very expensive, who really needs this much power for the price?
My 3820 costed 300 USD, which at the time was cheaper than the 2600k, 2700k, and eventually cheaper than the 3770k when it came out. I would have to say that it is just as capable. Maybe not clock as high as a 2700k, but 4.5-4.8 is not unreasonable on a decent air cooler. With water, we've seen Dumo pump out some nice numbers when he was rocking a 3820. The IMC is very solid and the CPU is much more forgiving at higher voltages. I get about 60*C fully loadeded at 1.392v after LLC. How hot do you think a SB chip would be at that voltage? I bet it wouldn't be 60*C with the same cooler.
Found also this:
For gaming users this proc is a HUGE waste of money....
the most expensive computer I want is cheaper than this processor. and it's not even 8-core. I have zero idea why anyone would care
Why do the emirs which never worked 1 day in their life have a garage full of Ferrari, Lambo, Buggatti, etc etc etc....Same with ubber expensive CPU, GPU's, etc.....E-PEN !!!
Not even just for who has the larger internet dick, I would just like to have a real justification of owning a intel Extreme series CPU.
When Gulftown came out with the i7 980x EE it completely wiped the floor with what was already present on consumer market and I gladly paid the premium to have the best IPC paired with a lot of physical cores on a single CPU.
I am a gamer and I require that my CPU is fast on lightly threaded workloads AND I am someone who works with a few rendering engines and 3D suites so I've seen tons of improvements compared to my old i7 920, which yes I didn't buy the EE when there was the i7 965 because that was just an unlocked multiplier 920 AND yes it would have been stupid to shell out 1k for that kind of difference.
On socket 2011 Intel has given us the chance to separate smart buyers from who just wants to throw their money at Intel, the 3930K is the only socket 2011 CPU that should be bought, the 3960/70X aren't even worth considering because the increased L3 cache (only 3MB) just doesn't make any difference nor justifies the premium.
What I am trying to say that there are smart buyers who happen to need the performance that is given by Intel enthusiast lineup, so if a CPU costs 1k but it makes me gain more I don't really see what's wrong on purchasing one.
After all you can't have strong multi threaded performance and strong lightly threaded performance with another platform, so if you happen to need both then you are stuck with Intel X chipset/socket.
I wonder if you could find more of such results? Some with non-synthetic benchies perhaps? Maybe it would be possible to find a couple slides where AMD is on top, but that's about it.
Way to cherry pick.
AMD lost in 29 out of 31 tests, including all gaming tests AND power consumption. Nice try.
Cherry pick and troll less please.
Just because it doesn't fit your needs doesn't mean that it won't fit someone elses' but there is a good bet that if the user benefits from a 6 core Intel chip, that they will benefit from a multi-processor system as well, so now you're in the realm of server CPUs that are just as expensive as the i7 EE. Just because you don't care doesn't mean others don't. I don't think I would have gotten the 3820 otherwise...
Encoding, rendering, servers, multi-threaded data compression, multi-threaded software compilation, the list can go on. Some people who actually work on computers for a living might see benefits from having systems that handle parallel tasks better than others. Not everyone builds a computer to just play video games. I know that I certainly don't.
Depends on what you consider when you say "Lost" because you know the 8350 isn't directly targetting SB-E, it's competing with the 3570k.
Dont link to anandtech there reviews on gaming is just crap, try linking to a place (like TPU) that has done a full game proper review BD still behind but not as much as you think, and PD is even less again.
For a good review on the 8350 go here > http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_fx_8350_8320_6300_processor_4300_performance_review,1.html
Over all its even to the 2600K minus the gaming results, but of course nothing can touch the 12 threaded monster >i7-3970X
Please come back when you've found images/slides where i7-3960X is 5x faster than FX-8350, you know... the price difference.
Thank you for playing, goodbye.
Yeah, I really have it in for fanboys and ignorant people in general.
Wile-E is not a fan boy.
And for those whose money is no object, performance is everything.
You're talking about those 0,4% of the market? Cool story. Not to mention, I'm sure they're all well informed *cough* indoctrinated by Intel people *cough* about what to buy.
My original post was a bitchslap reply to a post implying AMD is only words, performance-wise. So I made a proof-of-concept, Like a... "WOW, I just saved 80% off of spending on that 1grand+ processor and I'm still encrypting faster!"
Even for low end CPUs, the performance doesn't scale like that, so how about you stop comparing apples or oranges and understand that the EE is targetting a much different audience than the 8150 and 8350. Clearly you have it in for yourself because you're being a hypocrite because your statements are pretty ignorant.
That is what the extreme editions are for...
And in most cases, my 3820 out performs the 8150 and 8350 and I only spent 300 USD on that CPU. Just because I don't get 3x performance going to the 3960x from a 3820 doesn't mean that it isn't worth it, but once again the EE is one of the fastest CPUs you can get your hands on and Intel charges for that. Weather or not you want to pay for it is irrelevant, other people do because that is what they want and as WhiteLotus stated, when you are loaded with cash, you aim for the top. The 3960x might be a tiny portion of the share, but each of those people paid 1000 USD, so consider the revenue to Intel gets from it as well despite that it is a small market.
Not everyone's goal is to save money so obviously you have it in for yourself because you one of those ignorant people you've been talking about "having it in for." Stop trolling and get your head on straight, not everyone builds a computer for the reason reason that you do...
I look at the EEs as not necessarily for overclocking but the fact that they are the fastest CPU stock clocked from the factory. Its just like how the A64 FX, the Athlon XP 3200, were, I think the Mobility Athlon XP even called for a higher price than their desktop counterparts
Your argument is invalid. A Porsche 911 Turbo is over twice as much as a Shelby GT500, but is not twice as fast. Price to performance is not a linear ratio in almost anything.
I'm not a fanboy. I bought the fastest cpu I could get for the money I was looking to spend. I had $1000 to spend on a cpu. I bought the 980X when it released. If AMD would've had something faster, I would've bought that. I am completely indifferent to brand. All I care is that the object I buy does what I desire within my price range.
This cpu will last at least another couple of years, at which point I'll again buy the fastest cpu I can in the $1000 price range (financial situation permitting).
Cost is not my concern on these upgrades, as I wait a few years between builds. So, instead of $300 every year, I save that money and buy the better cpu down the road. I'll generally only upgrade video cards and storage between builds, and wait until my cpu is a significant bottleneck before upgrading it. With the 980X, that's still quite a ways off.
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