Discussion in 'Reviews' started by W1zzard, Jun 1, 2013.
To read this review go to: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Intel/Core_i7_4770K_Haswell_GPU/
Interesting though when i get i7-4770 non K i will immediately plug back my GTX670, very nice review W1zzard
Though you might want to correct
I know that the review is specifically targeted at the GPU part, but the poor performance should be expected no? I hardly call that a con. After all you don't buy a 4770k for the graphics.
Glad that these waste of resource graphics card like 520 and 6450 will go extinct.
how did u get the A10-6800K?
can you still use stuff like QuickSync if you have a discrete AMD or nVidia card installed?
This bit here:
Is actually pretty sad, because those things are faster than Trinity. In some cases it's on par with the Geforce GT640.
yeah and the same as a million other chips since way back in 2006 with the quad-core Kentsfield QX6700, ok so this wasn't fully integrated but my point is its been 7 years since the first Intel x86 quad-core, its time to step it up now. 8-core should have been the mid-range default by now, we are not really pushing frequencies up like we used to back in the old days and we seem to have stopped increase core-count too, and Intel wonders why people aren't buying as much and its profits are now?!
Give us something to be excited about and we'll put our hand in our pockets!
The QX6700 was made using 65nm, we have had 45nm, 32nm and now 22nm, QX6700 was over twice the size of the 4770k even taking into account the massive on-board GPU. Couple this with the massive improvements in thermal management and we should have moved on in the last 7 years.
Give us octa-core already!
Maybe the motherboard vendors will include Lucid MVP.
...and how much software does the average (and even gamer,) use that actually can harness the power of an 8 core processor? They're not doing it because the only demand for it are from people like you who know what they really need from a CPU or people who really do need more cores. There aren't many situations where I would see a difference in performance going from my 3820 to a 3930k and it's not every day that I'm encoding video or running something that can fully utilize 8 logical cores.
Intel is giving the general market exactly what it wants, to be completely honest. It's important to remember that us members at TPU and our wants don't always coincide with the general market.
I think Intel did fine and I think your scrutinization of Intel and Haswell is unfounded.
Actually an octa-core design might be a good idea overall for furthering performance on titles that are next-gen console ports, what with their being likely octa threaded made for a processor much weaker per core but said 8 cores, what with both high end next-gen consoles running on octa-core x86 processors.
Also I noticed in that Anand bit that the i7's with GT3 have twice the power consumption of an AMD A10, to gain a 25% speed advantage in gaming to AMD, go figure. Cant' wait for Kaveri.
I think we should not blame software's developer about the lack of the support of 4 cores and up, because as we all know, Intel as the leader and dominant on the CPU market, they are making deals with software's developer to slow down the wheel of innovation progress at least in desktop segment, we see that the majority of windows application are single threaded and use in extreme conditions 4 cores, and we know that multi threaded apps is the future and here where AMD CPUs shine so as long intel is the leader nothing will be changed.
and sorry for my bad english
I'm not dismissing Haswell, it looks like a good chip and from what i've seen will overclock like a female dog but with regards to the core count it is simply the chicken and the egg scenario. People said dual core wasn't needed and Windows would never advantage of it properly, then people said quad core was massive overkill and there is no software out there that the common man would use that would stress 4 cores.
I accept that most software out there isn't set up for Octa-core but as always make the chips and developers will make the software to take advantage of it. Not to mention the PS4 and Xbox One are both octa-core so games will be designed to use 8 cores from here on in.
My 3770K already has 8 threads (just Hyperthreading though) yet none of the games I play use more than 4 threads in HWiNFO64 overlayed into my games using RivaTuner Statistics Server. In fact, to get rid of my CPU limitation in many games, I would need four faster cores more than this 8 core nonsense. 6/8 cores is useful for streaming your live gameplay to TwitchTV, but other than that, they are currently useless.
that's because the majority of windows applications dont need any significant cpu performance. when was the last time you waited for a desktop application (and it was not waiting for disk or network access to complete) ?
If the graphics were better I'd be buying more than one. Really, it would be great if we could get the CPU power of Haswell with, say the GPU from an AMD 6800K all in one. Really though if the GPU in Haswell is good enough for high-def video than really, it's good enough for me.
This, Upgrading to a solid state drive made a bigger difference to my computer then anything else has done in a long time. Even if my solid state drive is an older cheap one.
HD 3000 graphics will actually run most modern games on low, so now they've improved the performance even more this very well gives you the ability to most games on a laptop with several hours on runtime
In short: HD 4600's will be useful because now you can play full pc games on the train etc
At least the graphics are there in case your video card goes up in smoke like my spare GTX 460 did while my first HD 7950 was out for RMA.
I'd be interested to know if they finally got 23.976 fps refresh rates right this time. That was one of the biggest roadblocks to using an Intel chip for a HTPC in previous generations.
WTF ? W1zzard make GPU test before other websites do a CPU test, LOL awesome
+1 for that
Very Nice W1zzard !!
Gives a precursor to how big the performance change in the x86 cores are.
But nice to see Intel taking AMD seriously (albeit it the GPU department)
but as others have noted already, wait a year and 8 cores will come, as both the mayor consoles (PS and Xbox, nintendo does not play the specs game) have eight cores (albeit jaguar aka low power cores). well, half of TPU already had 8+ cores (Intel I7 and Amd bulldozers) so the only question i am left with is: Is it worth upgrading from my I7 920? This could easily be answered with a i7 920 in the comparison pool when the review of the CPU performance of the 4770K is done, also, i hope i am not the only one that want to know if Haswell cpus have TIM or soldier between the Silicon and the heat spreader.
And as always, a pretty good review here at TPU. Looking forward to the CPU part.
I love TPU. I'm glad I have a nicely overclocked 3750K CPU and 7870 GPU, works for me
Here here! My 3820 and 6870s work nicely for me as well. Just because it's not the fastest doesn't mean it won't perform just as well for the things you need it to do.
It looks like you guys made a calculation error in your summarised performance analysis.
If i7-4770K is set at 100%, and i7-3770K is set at 75%, then the i7-4770K is not 25% faster. It's 33% faster. (100/75 = 1.3333)
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