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Intel Cracks Down on Motherboard Vendors Offering Overclocking on non-Z Chipset

Discussion in 'News' started by btarunr, Jul 25, 2013.

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Do you have an Intel K-Model processor?

  1. Yes, and it's overclocked

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  2. Yes, but running stock

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  3. No, but mine's still overclocked (BCLK)

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  4. No, and I'm running stock

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  1. 95Viper

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    However, they do have them on the code that makes that hardware work... Unless you write your own or get some that is written by someone else (open source or similar).

    However, it is still a shame they must impose their will in this fashion.
    In my opinion... they should just learn from the exprience and apply it to future licensing and leave what is as is.
    If they allow this, maybe, they will sell more of those $900+ dollar processors.
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    I do not agree with hardware vendors blocking how the hardware is used after purchase, just as I am against software vendors blocking other software from working. (Unless that is specifically what I want ie antivirus).

    What about MS start BLOCKING the use of OpenSource executables?

    What about an AMD deal with MS where Windows blocks the use of nV GPU drivers?

    What about a deal where intel "kills" a CPU if you don't pay monthly license fees... or "kills" a CPU if you pop it into an unlicensed mainboard <<<- THERE YOU GO!

    ... see where it is going?

    NO.
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    Sadly...

    Thats what happens when there are no strong competition in the market... simply the end user get abused by such f***ing jerks at intel.
    now I am really really regretting that I just bought 2 cpu's from them... :banghead: I miss AMD and the old days...
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    Chipzilla should have piped up sooner , moneygrabbin tyrants
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    The short sighted, I will capitalize on anything vendors outside of MSI? :laugh:

    http://hwbot.org/newsflash/2127_msi...psets_z87_the_only_true_overclocking_platform

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    One more reason to buy AMD then...
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    You sir, are an idiot. Intel is doing exactly what they should do. How would you feel if you were selling a 2 products. A cheap one and an expensive one. And someone came along and started giving your cheap product more capabilities, so that no one bought the expensive one. You'd feel broke.
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    Frick Fishfaced Nincompoop

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    I think you are forgetting their overclocking history. This is all purely superficial. Overclocking doesn't matter as much to the avarage joe these days though, so it's not as important as it used to be, IMO. And I still think it is within their rights to release their products as they please, but is it the morally correct thing? Morals doesn't belong in bussiness, not in the world as it is.
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    tigger I'm the only one

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    It's pretty obvious Intel was going to stop this, love them or not, they run a business, to make money.

    Amd would do exactly the same if the shoe was on their foot, so don't demonize Intel for doing it.
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    Something tells me they will survive it.
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    LOL right?

    I love the complaints... "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH they are taking away something that shouldnt really be there on a platform that isnt even made for overclocking. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH". OH and, WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH a for profit business is trying to ensure they are making as much money as they can WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH"

    :slap:

    :D

    People need to get over 'big bad intel' crap already IMO.
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    I agree, someone found a loop hole, and Intel is closing it, fair enough.
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    Intel has a lot of power, they can cut off or reduce chipset shipments or increase chipset prices of chipsets, that would destroy some of these motherboard makers who first bragged about it.

    Motherboard makers can be forced to make a BIOS that isn't able to be downgraded to an older version, of course there are already tools out there in public that allow this back flash with BIOSes which are locked, you just gotta look.

    Of course they can't make you flash, but they ca make them flash boards being sold.

    IMO go Intel, unlocking B and H series kills Z series sales, its stupid and dumb and puts high rik of VRM overheating and low OC potential.
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    Its amazing, how business moves tell you, how greedy the people are, that have control over these companies.
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    Intel used to be great when it came to overclocking on many of their chips, Extreme or not, but about 2 years ago they limited it, I remember buying a a P4 and overclocking it with no problem and a Celeron D and overclocking it to near 5Ghz and buying a E2140 and overclocking it more than double the stock clock and it was worth it with the dual and single core cpu's reguardless of what anyone says about waaaaa your screwing intel out of money blablabla, thats how it used to be, but after they went to the K I really don't care much either but boy did I like how it was but the kicker was, . . . . . . you needed a good board to overclock and get good results(get where I am going)

    but for alot of people stock is enough now, especially on desktops if you have a decent cpu.
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    ...As if enthusiasts needed another reason to NOT buy InHell products.
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    ......aren't we the hackers, overclockers' and basement mad scientists? just another move in this chess game.... once upon a time overclocking wasn't as simple as hitting the enter button. Time to step our game up.....
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    If we look at history, overclocking on cheaper stuff should definitely be there. It used to be the point in overclocking. This brought us a bit closer to that time, people got happy. It's totally understandable.

    It isn't if you want to get good at it. At least from what I'm seeing, it's lots more to keep track on nowadays, compared to how it was in the past.

    @jorge: I can't tell if you're trolling or are just being that dumb. Seeing your post history it's probably the second thing.
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    Purchasing an AMD FX-9370 and one of the few 990FX motherboards that supports 220w TDP processors still costs more than an i7-4770K and a mid-range Z87 board. Smart people will obviously choose the FX-8350 and overclock the crap out of it, but my point is that "big bad Intel", "IntHell" or whatever lousy name you want to give Intel isn't the only one playing the price game nowadays.
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    lol @ "chest game"
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    Certainly. However, it was cheaper CPUs. The problem this time around is people using cheaper motherboards with power sections not being able to handle overclocks well. The 4 power phase boards may end up throttling if you are pushing them too far. No heatsinks on the VRMs on those low end boards as well.

    I say overclock on every CPU, but make sure the motherboard is robust enough to handle it. You don't want a situation like AMD has on their hands where buying an octo core and a cheap motherboard is a bad idea due to some boards throttling the CPU even at stock speeds!

    LOL, yeah...!
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    Intel is going to get gay

    another reason why amd is looking more and more appealing to me everyday. This is coming from someone who has always gone the intel and nvidia route.
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    I have fond memories of socket 7, socket 370 and socket 775 which were able to take multiple generations of CPU... meaning you could invest in a decent mainboard and it would survive a CPU generation upgrade. Unfortunately, intel didn't like that and decided there were more chipsets to be sold by limiting chipsets, crippling chipsets, and changing CPU sockets as often as most men change their underpants.

    Intel not green. It is entirely unnecessary. Boo. If this was the automotive industry there would be regulations against this sort of practice. Boo.
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    An LGA1150 motherboard based on Intel ICH7 southbridge from last decade isn't technically impossible. Today's PCHs (platform controller hubs) are just glorified southbridges. And since the very first LGA775 platforms, a southbridge is just a PCI-Express x4 device. DMI is just PCIe x4 physical layer with a custom link layer.
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    To say that AMD hasn't rapidly changed sockets before? What about all the "suckers" that bought FM1 or socket 754 "one hit wonder" processors? Last I heard, only select AM3 boards supported Zambezi when it came out, and there are even AM3 boards out that support Zambezi but not Piledriver. Furthermore, AMD now has top-tier CPUs out that support socket AM3+ yet all but maybe five of the most expensive AM3+ motherboards even fully support them without throttling, something your average computer buyer probably won't know about unless they actually look at the CPU support list.

    Saying AMD is the "angel of the x86 industry" seems to be an incorrect statement. AMD changes things almost as badly as Intel does, but nobody seems to want to care.
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