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  1. cadaveca

    cadaveca My name is Dave

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    Got a new Haswell chip? Need help overclocking? Got a few tips of your OWN?

    This Clubhouse is for all things Haswell, from performance and overclocking, to boards and memory support. Feel free to post your results!

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    Here's one of mine(2666 MHz sticks running 2933 MHz @ 1.65V):

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    SOME CPUS CANNOT TAKE THE STRESSES OF OVERCLOCKING. DO NOT FORGET TO PROTECT YOUR INVESTMENT, AND GET YOUR INTEL PERFORMANCE TUNING PLAN WARRANTY WHICH COVERS ANY DAMAGE TO YOUR CPU FROM ANY TYPE OF OVERCLOCKING HERE AT INTEL'S SITE i7 4770K PLAN COSTS JUST $25 AND WILL GET YOU A SINGLE REPLACEMENT CHIP, NO QUESTIONS ASKED(some restrictions apply).



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    cadaveca My name is Dave

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    IN PROGRESS:

    CASES, COOLERS, POWER SUPPLIES, BOARDS, MEMORY AND SSDs, IMPORTANT BUILD CONSIDERATIONS

    Since Haswell is a new platform, there might be questions about compatibility issues some users might have. For the most part, the parts you choose aren't going to matter too much, especially when it comes to overclocking, but there are a couple of things to consider when choosing those last few parts you might not think about.


    CASES

    No issues known


    COOLERS
    When it comes time to overclock Haswell, cooler choice is very important. General clocking ability of Haswell chips is rather equal, but the voltage used and final clock before throttling is noticed can vary from chip to chip, with most results at 4.5 GHz (expected average clock) landing anywhere from 1.25V to 1.4V, roughly. The larger your cooler, the better off your are in case you get a "poor" chip. If you find a cooler insufficient to maintain modest overclocks(4.2 GHz and above), please report it here so we can make a list of coolers users might want to avoid.


    POWER SUPPLIES

    Although there was a bit of a kerfuffle prior to the launch about PSU compatibility with the Haswell platform, most popular power supplies on the market today should not have any issues, and each Power Supply Manufacturer has given some sort of press release about which of their power supplies are compatible, and which may have issues, if any. If you find you have any issues, please report them and your system configuration.


    BOARDS

    Not all motherboards have the same expansion capabilities. Some multi-GPU considerations must be made:

    Dual GPU(Crossfire/SLI):


    Tri-SLI Capable:


    Quad-SLi Capable:


    MEMORY

    Voltage considerations for memory have been reduced for Haswell-based CPUs. Intel recommends 1.5 V "XMP"-rated DIMMS with 1.65 V as an absolute maximum. There are many DIMMs up to 2400 MHz or so rated at 1.5 V. Some CPUs may not handle even that. Maximum default supported memory speed for the platform is 1600 MHz, and yes, memory OCs can affect CPU overclocks! NO issues have been reported from running 1.65 V or higher at this time, but this must have been noted by board makers and Intel for some reason. I personally use 1.65V DIMMs.

    SSDs
    There are known compatibility issues with older SATA 3 Gb/s (SATA2) Sandforce-based SSDs, like the OCZ Vertex2, and some of the Corsair Force series. Intel's requirements for booting a drive are not met by these controllers and their firmware, so use of these drives might be problematic with some motherboards, if not all. ASUS has confirmed the issue, and it's not something that is limited to a specific vendor. If you want to use one of these drivbes, you'll have to either use a board with a secondary controller other than Intel that is known to work, or use a USB 3.0 dock(most are capable of maxing out any SSD with "USB 3.0 BOOST" tech enabled), when using these drives with Z87-based motherboards.
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    cadaveca My name is Dave

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    CPU Quick OC/Binning 5-part guide.

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    Cooler mounting and orientation, it matters:


    First Boot, what to do, and why:


    Second boot. Yes, it matters too.


    Finding the right CPU multis, the first OC boots:


    General OC range results, what to look for
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    cadaveca My name is Dave

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    Member Result Rankings

    Help everyone else find out where their CPU ranking in the "Silicon Lottery". Results Rankings require CPU-Z screenshots of both CPU and memory pages. It's best to run a light application like SuperPi 32M to make sure CPU and Cache multis are running at their maximum soeeds for your screenshot. Please report CPU batch, clocks, the cooler used, the voltage you used for CPU, memory and, CPU cache, and anything else modified that might help others get the most out off their chips too. ;)

    Please follow this format in order to have your results added to our list. Unstable "maximum" speed screenshots are just as great as fully-tested clocks, just be sure to note which type of OC your are posting. If some details are missed, that's fine, but screenshot using the proper version of CPU-Z is mandatory. CPU-Z reviewer kit with other CPUID softwares like Haswell-ready CPU-Z and other included can be found HERE:


    Format:

    user name|CPU/batch|Stock Volt:CPU/Cache|OC CPU Clock|OC CPU Voltage|OC Cache/Ring Multi|OC Cache/Ring Voltage|Memory Speed|cooling|notes


    *Batch information can be found both on the chip itself, and on the box. Pictures of either are greatly appreciated! ;)

    Column 1 Column 2 Column 3 Column 4 Column 5 Column 6 Column 7 Column 8 Column 9 Column 10 Column 11
    0 infos: USER NAME CPU/BATCH Stock VOLT:CPU/Cache(Ring) OC CPU CLOCK OC CPU VOLT OC CACHE/RING MULTI OC CACHE/RING VOLT MEM SPEED COOLING notes
    1 1. v12dock 4770K/L307B198 1.072 V/- 4500(45x100 MHz) 1.285 V x39 1.150 1600 MHz - ASUS Z87 PRO/MicroCenter
    2 2. cadaveca 4770K/L309B318 1.040 V/1.015 V 4600(46x100 MHz) 1.280 V x39 1.140 V 2800 MHz C11 CoolerMaster TPC812 boardtestchip
    3 3. cadaveca 4770K/L311B405 1.020 V/1.040 V 4625(37x125 MHz) 1.250 V x36(4500 MHz) 1.150 V 3000 MHz C12 Corsair H90 ASUS Maximus VI Extreme/memtestchip
    4 4. 15th Warlock 4770K/L311B411 1.000 V/1.024 V 4700(47x100 MHz) 1.280 V x40 1.150 V 1866 MHz Corsair H100 MSI Z87-GD65 GAMING/Newegg
    5 5. DOM 4770K/L311B411 1.053 V/1.053 V 5500(55x100 MHz) 1.725 V x39 1.200 V 2400 MHz C9 Single-Stage Phase MSI MPower MAX/Newegg
    6 6. PolRoger 4770K/L310B492 0.992 V/0.999 V 4500(45x100 MHz) 1.150 V x43 1.150 V 2400 MHz C10 Corsair H110 ASUS Z87 Deluxe/Microcenter
    7 7. Womper 4770K/L312B318 1.008 V/- 4700(47x100 MHz) 1.350 V x46 1.325V 2133 MHz C9 Swiftech H220 ASUS Z87-PLUS/Intel EPP.
    8 8. Allen337 4770K/- -/- 4800(48x100 MHz) - - - 1600 MHz C- Corsair A50 ASUS Z87 PRO
    9 9. Justin7477 4770K/L312B326 -/- 4400(44x100 MHz) 1.220 V x41 1.220 V 2133 MHz CoolerMaster TPC812 Z87 Extreme6
    10 10. TheHunter 4770K/L308B202 0.967 V/0.977 V 4500(45x100 MHz) 1.170 V x41 1.115 V 2133 MHz C9 Corsair H90 ASUS Z87 DELUXE
    11 11. springs113 4770K/L311B411 1.056 V/1.040 V 4400(44x100 MHz) 1.220V x39 1.140 V 2000 MHz C- Corsair H100 MSI MPower/Newegg
    12 12. FireKillerGR 4770K/L312B508 1.020 V/1.000 V 4700(47x100 MHz) 1.350 V x41 - - - -
    13 13. HammerON 4770K/L311B411 -/- 4400(44x100 MHz) 1.170 V x39 1.000 V 2666 MHz C11 Custom Water MSI Z87-GD65 GAMING/Newegg
    14 14. tom_milli 4670K/L314A994 0.986 V/1.050 V 4600(46x100 MHz) 1.200 V - - - - MSI Z87-GD65 GAMING
    15 15. Kursah 4770K/L307B189 1.071 V/ 1.031 V 4200(42x100 MHz) 1.200 V - - - - ASUS Z87-PRO
    16 16. Grnfinger 4770K/L312B341 1.024 V/1.021 V 4500(45x100 MHz) 1.25 45 1.021 1866 Corsair H100 Asus MVI Hero
    17 17. Crazyeyesreaper 4770k/L312B334 1.016 V/1.008 V - - - - 2133 MHz - MSI Z87-GD65 GAMING
    18 18. emissary42 4670K 1.050 V 4900(49x100 MHz) 1.280 V 45x 1.100 V DDR3-2667 CL10 Thermalright Archon SB-E MSI Z87I Gaming AC (Memory @ Stock, more or less^^)
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    I am currently running 4.3 stable with the Asus Z87 Pro with batch# L307B198. Picked up at Microcenter for $449.98 :)
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    cadaveca My name is Dave

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    Your screenshot shows 4.2 GHz. :p

    I'll start the result table once we get a few results. I think there are several criteria we might want to look at to compare between what we get, like ram used, voltage to CPU, voltage to cache, CPU multi, CPU cache multi, cooler used, etc.
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    Just for you
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    I like the layout, what about voltage when you first boot to bios? Also I posted a good video tutorial in the 4770k review thread. It may come in handy it explains how all the voltages work. From Newegg

    Edit: here it is
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    cadaveca My name is Dave

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    I love JJ. Also awesome to see that he and I agree on things so far(haven't finished watching yet, about 40 minutes in).


    Also, EXCELLENT point, added that in, forgot about that one, although it would have been in the binning/OC guide. I'll have my own version of a guide that might differ from what these guys suggest. ;)

    Linus' version(I like him too):

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    Yeah I watched the whole video he knows his stuff. I've been out of the loop for a while so in a couple weeks I plan on slowing getting parts to do a new build. Haven't for the last 5 years hopefully I can pass my test then I can start making money right away.

    I am going to put togeather a excel sheet and add all this info from other sites and forums to check OC results. I haven't been this excited for awhile.

    But for now goodnight.
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    Can't wait to have another chip by late next week. Hopefully it will be a better one than my L311B404 was before I did an incredibly stupid thing to it. :banghead:

    Once I get the new chip, I'll definitely be participating in this thread. I'll be using my ASRock Z87 Extreme6, my old 2011 G.Skill 2133 CL11 4GB sticks (two separate pairs) and a Cooler Master TPC-812 I just got. I also have a Tt Water 2.0 Performer but I think the base is a little convex unless I put the paste on badly last time. Thanks for the thread. :)
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    Ok here is what I've been working on, I hope this helps some people it's not the fullest, but it may help with some #'s

    From multiple forums.

    I will keep updating this post as I get more info.
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    First boot is 1.072 mem is 1600
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    cadaveca My name is Dave

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    Interesting info, but there are so many holes there we don't know how these guys are clocking things, unfortunately.
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    Yeah sadly not many people give much info on most forums. will have to wait for more Official threads to come up.
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    cadaveca My name is Dave

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    It's been a week only.:p With time more people will get them. Heck, I want more!
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    15th Warlock | L311B411 | CPU 1.000V / Ring 1.024V | 4.7GHz | 1.280V | 40x | 1.150V | XMP1866MHz | CorsairH100 | ordered from Newegg

    Thanks for starting this thread Dave!

    I think I was lucky with my chip, this is my max stable OC at 4.7GHz and 1.28V, unfortunately CPU-Z won't report the right voltage for some reason:

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    This is a photo of my initial voltages on default BIOS settings:

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    Now the CPU is working at 4.5GHz @ 1.25V 24/7 100% stable, temps have not exceeded 70 degrees even at 4.7GHz, tried 4.8GHz at 1.30V but Win8 was booting to a BSOD so, I believe this is as far as I'll go :p

    ...for now :p :rockout:

    EDIT:

    Just realized I didn't add a 1 to the ring voltage making it appear as 1.5V, such high voltage would've fried the cache! I think dave caught the error in his table, thanks for fixing it!
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    I've seen some L311 batch's getting good numbers also I've noticed if have a L3##B### the last 3 digits seem to be better if they are around 400-500, some nice results 15th Warlock

    Also if someone has a chip and some time can they try my theory, of the heat is from frequency and not higher volts.
    As someone did a test kept stock volts and tried Ocing and temps rocketed, then they kept same frequency and only bumped up the volts and they didn't get as much heat.

    So try
    1. Stock everything record temps
    2. 4GHz stock volt check temps or more if you can
    3. stock frequency raise volts to 1.25 check temps or higher if you want

    this is only a theory... :p
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    Can someone clarify what the "Ring voltage" is and what it is labeled as on ASRock boards? Is that what the "cache voltage" is that I saw on my board and roughly equals the vcore?
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    Should be.;)

    However, it doesn't need to equal vcore in all situations. Yet it's rather close at stock speeds with the chips I've seen or others have shown me so far.
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    I am now using a decent thermal paste shaved ~2c off full load on my noctua nh-d14
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    Should have my Haswell build done tonight. Took apart the 800D and cleaned everything. Will post info when the build is done:)
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    This my max so far on ss yes vcore is real :laugh:

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