Intel P45 Chipset Club

[ZenEffect]

might as well add me to the list

p5q-e bios 0901
my kung-fu is strong!

 

[DavyGT]

Soon to be owner of an ASRock P45R2000-Wifi. I won it on a competition.
Pair it up with my E4500 and I'll see if I can OC further.

 

[ViciousXUSMC]

Ok guys I was trying to find my max stable overclock for my 4850 cards today (2 of them in crossfire) and I was quite happy with my 24/7 3.6ghz q6600.

But I found this is not fast enough in 3dmark06 for these cards and that I hit a bottleneck.

My bios settings are all on the auto/default except for the Vcore 1.42 and the vdroop setting is enabled (forget what its called currently)

I have been prime95 stable at 3.6ghz with both a 400x9 and a 450x8 so I know my FSB has room still to go higher and my ram is not holding me back (ram timings manually set 5-4-4-12)

Thing is when it does 3.6 so easy its crazy how hard it is to go higher. I cant get into windows at 3.7 1.42v, I upped it to 1.44v and got into windows and passed a few runs of 3dmark06, then I went to see if it was prime stable and it was so unstable that it didnt just fail prime it crashed the computer into a black screen.

For those interested to show the bottleneck here are my 3d06 results with the 4850 crossfire

CPU @ 3.6
19017 710/1050
19018 720/1050
19018 720/1080
19042 720/1100

CPU @ 3.7
19165 710/1050
19324 720/1050

You can quite clearly see the cpu bottleneck and how it was lifted. I triked a 720/1080 run but my score went back down probably because something was not stable.

Now back on task.

My CPU is the GO stepping and it has a rather high VID. 1.3125v (1.313) and following the "general" rule of +15% being safe that means I should be able to push 1.5v into this cpu rather worry free. But many say that 1.5v is too much. So looking for 2nd opinions on that.

Next is the fact that I have all of the advanced stuff like the GTL and PLL settings for the cpu on auto/default. Do you think that tweaking these manually will help me out? If so I really need some guidance on what to pick and how to know, with so many variables its hard to test them out one at a time and know it helps or hurts.

System specs are all listed by my name on the left but for the lazy the mobo is the Asus P5Q Deluxe.

Thanks for any help guys! I really want to see what this cpu can do safely and maybe break 20k 3dmark06. If we manage to up my 24/7 clock from 3.6ghz to something higher with the same or near same voltage that would be great too.

 

[Deleted member 24505]

Well,i just ordered a Asus P5Q-deluxe,should be here on wednesday

I guess i joined your club

 

[Fitseries3]

where's all the ddr3 guys at?

welcome tigger69

 

[SirKeldon]

Welcome tigger69! Catched you also on XS

 

[Deleted member 24505]

I am just reading through the p5q-deluxe thread on xs.I like to do my research I will probably read about 5-10 reviews too.

 

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

Welcome tigger69! Catched you also on XS

Ahem. It's "caught".

 

[Fitseries3]

Ahem. It's "caught".

english is his second language.

 

[SirKeldon]

Ahem. It's "caught".

Sorry! English is not my primary language, it's the third really, anyway thanks for correcting me ... sometimes irregular verbs are confusing myself And i couldn't remember if it was "catched" or "caught", now i'll know

 

[ViciousXUSMC]

Im getting conflicting information in my search on google for the CPU GTL Ref. Half the sites I found say use x63 while the other half say quad core like a higher x67 or even x68 better.

Changing this value will automatically change all the voltages wont it as it is more or less a multiplier that goes up against the VTT to determin certain voltages. Lowering it can do no harm but I would assume making it way too high could.

Really could use feedback on a G0 Q6600 and a Asus P5Q Deluxe for anybody that has messed with the PLL/GTL settings and gone past 3.6ghz. I dont think Vcore is going to get me much further than maybe 3.7ghz near a max of 1.5v and still looking for feedback on that. with a VID of 1.3125v is 1.5v safe for a 24/7 system as long as temps stay in check (and so far with a 1.48 as the highest I have tried they stay in good shape)

 

[Ketxxx]

Ok guys I was trying to find my max stable overclock for my 4850 cards today (2 of them in crossfire) and I was quite happy with my 24/7 3.6ghz q6600.

But I found this is not fast enough in 3dmark06 for these cards and that I hit a bottleneck.

My bios settings are all on the auto/default except for the Vcore 1.42 and the vdroop setting is enabled (forget what its called currently)

I have been prime95 stable at 3.6ghz with both a 400x9 and a 450x8 so I know my FSB has room still to go higher and my ram is not holding me back (ram timings manually set 5-4-4-12)

Thing is when it does 3.6 so easy its crazy how hard it is to go higher. I cant get into windows at 3.7 1.42v, I upped it to 1.44v and got into windows and passed a few runs of 3dmark06, then I went to see if it was prime stable and it was so unstable that it didnt just fail prime it crashed the computer into a black screen.

For those interested to show the bottleneck here are my 3d06 results with the 4850 crossfire

CPU @ 3.6
19017 710/1050
19018 720/1050
19018 720/1080
19042 720/1100

CPU @ 3.7
19165 710/1050
19324 720/1050

You can quite clearly see the cpu bottleneck and how it was lifted. I triked a 720/1080 run but my score went back down probably because something was not stable.

Now back on task.

My CPU is the GO stepping and it has a rather high VID. 1.3125v (1.313) and following the "general" rule of +15% being safe that means I should be able to push 1.5v into this cpu rather worry free. But many say that 1.5v is too much. So looking for 2nd opinions on that.

Next is the fact that I have all of the advanced stuff like the GTL and PLL settings for the cpu on auto/default. Do you think that tweaking these manually will help me out? If so I really need some guidance on what to pick and how to know, with so many variables its hard to test them out one at a time and know it helps or hurts.

System specs are all listed by my name on the left but for the lazy the mobo is the Asus P5Q Deluxe.

Thanks for any help guys! I really want to see what this cpu can do safely and maybe break 20k 3dmark06. If we manage to up my 24/7 clock from 3.6ghz to something higher with the same or near same voltage that would be great too.

I wouldn't push more than 1.475v through your CPU unless your using a decent water setup.. in which case I would make 1.55v your max. From what I see here;

CPU @ 3.6
19017 710/1050

CPU @ 3.7
19165 710/1050

Your probably going to need to push 3.8-4GHz to fully lift the CPU bottleneck on your 4850s. As I said in an earlier post I'm running 3.4GHz 380FSB atm and that just barely lifts the bottleneck off my 3870 @ stock... Your going about things in the right manner so far, stick to that path.

 

[ViciousXUSMC]

Thanks for the first response, 3.4ghz for a 3870 stock and its still almost bottlenecked? Thats crazy.

Anyways its mostly the low resoltuion of 3dmark06 causing the bottleneck when I am playing a game at my native resolution of 1920x1080 I know its not going to be a problem and 3.6ghz is well above what I would need for optimal performance, I am going to mess with the TL Ref later maybe after I get some sleep and try a point that I know is barely stable like 1.47v @ 3.7ghz and see if changing it from 0.63x - 0.68x has any effect on stability. I could repeat that one at a time for other factors and if i find that I am suddenly prime stable or atleast more stable.

I am abit weary to mess with the GTL and PLL voltages, it seems to really do that right you need to have some readings off your motherboard and use a formula, and guessing can easily toast your cpu. But upping it just a few mv from the standard for a test should not hurt it I guess.

 

[grunt_408]

Just ordered a P45 board add me to the club
Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS4P

 

[Ketxxx]

Thanks for the first response, 3.4ghz for a 3870 stock and its still almost bottlenecked? Thats crazy.

Anyways its mostly the low resoltuion of 3dmark06 causing the bottleneck when I am playing a game at my native resolution of 1920x1080 I know its not going to be a problem and 3.6ghz is well above what I would need for optimal performance, I am going to mess with the TL Ref later maybe after I get some sleep and try a point that I know is barely stable like 1.47v @ 3.7ghz and see if changing it from 0.63x - 0.68x has any effect on stability. I could repeat that one at a time for other factors and if i find that I am suddenly prime stable or atleast more stable.

I am abit weary to mess with the GTL and PLL voltages, it seems to really do that right you need to have some readings off your motherboard and use a formula, and guessing can easily toast your cpu. But upping it just a few mv from the standard for a test should not hurt it I guess.

Don't worry, baby steps never killed anything for your GTL muliplier you might want to give 0x65 a shot, it just seems to be one of those universal things that makes things a lot more stable nomatter what P45 board.

 

[blindfitter]

Hi Guys,

Postman just dropped Msi P45 Platinum on my doorstep today,

Have it up and running on water + Q6600 at present anyone got setfsb working, if yes which code

ta

ps didn't like 2 sticks of corsair 8500, 1 would boot 2 =no boot, gskill 800 HZ are fine

 

[SirKeldon]

Are the Corsair 8500 stick's listed on the QVL of the MSI P45 Platinum?

 

[blindfitter]

No their are not, just looked on Msi

http://global.msi.com.tw/uploads/test_report/TR10_1479.pdf

Looks like hasnt been updated for a while though

 

[ZenEffect]

where's all the ddr3 guys at?

welcome tigger69

can you do me a favor and post up a everst bandwidth screen shot?
i want to see how my ddr2 is faring these days.

 

[Deleted member 24505]

I ended up getting this one-http://uk.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=709&l4=0&model=2267&modelmenu=1
A P5Q-E,it was a tad cheaper and still seems ok.

I think my p5k-premium has a problem with my crucial ballistix pc8500 tracers though.I kept getting random errors and bsods on xp pro sp2,even while just running the tv while mates was here.I have put in a spare 1gb stick of ocz reaper pc6400 and my pc has been fine for hours now

Will the tracers work ok in the P5Q-E or will i have to replace them? I only got them back from rma a week ago and have only run them at stock speed/volts.

I tried memtest from a boot cd,and the tracers were giving errors at 1066mhz so i had them at 800,but my pc has been an arse today totally,until i put the reaper stick in.

Is there a known incompatability between the p5k-prem and crucial ram or are crucial just getting less reliable?

thanks geezers

 

[Fitseries3]

there is a known issue with p45 and micron chips yes. should be solved in the next bios update or 2.

 

[Deleted member 24505]

Does that include the P35?

So i will be better off using the stick of ocz to install then?

thanks fits

 

[DanishDevil]

No it does not include P35. P45 is picky. For now.

 

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

english is his second language.

I figured as much. Hence the emoticon.

 

[SirKeldon]

Let's hope to get it fixed soon ... for the P5Q's theres a new BIOS version that is posted on XS but they didn't tell yet if it's reliable or not, we'll have to wait