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Intel Takes on US Government?

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  1. TIGR

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    At risk of going political/geek on ya'll:

    http://www.tomshardware.com/news/IDF-2008-Keynote-Craig-Barrett,6190.html

    Gotta say I'm impressed with what was said and feel it was spot on. The U.S. has the reasons, resources, and sheer size to be the most technologically advanced nation in the world. The reasons are that you can't stop progress, but if you try, progress will run you over. The resources are a huge federal budget and large open market. The sheer size of the economy should make it possible and even profitable to secure our technological lead.

    Yet here, 6Mbps Internet is the most that is offered in many places. Where I live, I can't get anything over 1.5Mbps. In Japan, on the other hand, 100Mbps Internet is available everywhere, for the equivalent of only USD $50/month. Come on!

    And what about using technology in education? I'm not talking about just buying a bunch of computers for school and saying "here ya go, learn better now." I'm saying let's use a smart system of technology that enhances traditional teaching methods while attracting more kids to science and technology, where the U.S. is falling the most short by world standards.

    If it weren't for the fact that those who don't advance are crushed, I'd be all for just enjoying life and not trying to better it. But we're part of a world that will never stop taking things to the next level, and besides ... it's damned exciting to take humanity and civilization to new levels! Continuing advances enrich and improve our lives, cure diseases, stimulate us, help us grow, and bring us together.

    Let us as a nation quit pissing off the world by intervening in its affairs, so that we can afford to cut a few billion dollars of defense spending and throw it at education and technology. Our current track drains our resources and makes us a target. A new approach could help not only U.S. citizens, but humanity worldwide, to live a better existence.

    I'd love to hear all your thoughts on this. :)
     
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  2. candle_86 New Member

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    If this is Intels offical position they just lost my bussiness permanatly
     
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    Why?

    Edit to add: your sig seems to suggest they don't yet have your business. :p
     
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    "It all starts with education, and education is the key. Every country recognises the importance of education, but look where the US ranks from an educational perspective. That’s because we don’t have good, certified teachers in maths and the sciences."

    ^That's becoming a global phenomenon. People who can teach maths would rather take up technical education and get higher paying jobs. Same applies to science.
     
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    Nothing sensational in the man's keynote. And it was just some personal political commentary, spouted 1000 times before in a 1000 different countries. Certainly it was not "Intels public position on the matter". Crap reporter/journalist adds sexy dramatic title to win e-clicks. :shadedshu
     
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    well then let Intel denouce it, but untill then Intel can kiss my ass. They just became socialist pigs
     
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    Candle, can you extrapolate on why you disagree with what was said?
     
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    what's wrong with calling for a better education system?
     
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    the education part doesn't the Health care does, read between the lines they want national healhcare read it again. Thats what bugs me. Im going to be teacher simply because the education system has given up on the kids, I don't disagree the education system needs work
     
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    what's so bad about national health care then?
     
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    its unamerican, it means the healthy support the unhealthy
     
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    I don't see the statements as calling for a national healthcare. I see the healthcare benefits to which they eluded as trickling down in the private sector as a result of better education and research funding.
     
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    we already do - look at the vast numbers of inmates in our jam-packed-like-sardines prisons,

    the only difference is - we as americans are givin our federal and state incomes taxes to systems that don't rehabilitate the majority of inmates; where they are living better than most others in low and middle-income housing.

    Would you rather your tax dollars go to helping your neighbor become healthy enough again so that he could return to being productive within society? Or would you rather your tax dollars go to allow felons to live in 3-star hotels for 5 years, only to return to the streets and a life of crime and then re-enter that hotel for a possible 8-10 year stint?

    There are more people commiting more crimes because of how our system is; and the arguement you just made is about as ass-backwards as most blind, ill-supported arguements tend to be.
     
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    So true, also the Girls that are baby factories living off the Gov also with almost free housing, food staps, free medical etc.
     
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    Not once do i see where it says national healthcare. They just want to use technology to better our health and drop prices cause doctors are so damned greedy.
     
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    Yeah, I don't see it either candle. Besides, even if that was what he meant, I do see a need for reform in the healthcare system. Corporate greed has all but ruined it for those that can't afford medical coverage. If not national health care, then at least regulate what they can charge us.

    I just got a bill in the mail for $1200, all because my daughter fractured her pinky. All they did was an X-Ray, give a couple advil, and put it in a splint with an Ace Bandage. Didn't need set or anything. $1200?!?!?!?!?! That's highway robbery.
     
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    Well said Wile E.
     
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    :wtf::wtf::wtf:

    We do that in $15 here. Incl. x-ray, medication, supportive (plaster, etc). Seriously, only protests/demonstrations can set your healthcare system right. $1200 fetches you coronary angioplasty with 6 days POC (post operative care) here. (And those prices are for people with zero health cover).
     
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    btarunr, you're making me want to move! That's extremely inexpensive compared to here in the U.S.
     
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    Yeah, we here in Portugal also have very low prices on healthcare. Last week, I went to my family doctor because I had a swollen gland. I payed only 6€ for the consult and the medication.

    I wonder in America, where goes your taxes every month:confused:.
     
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    That's easy ... they go to pissing off the world by sending our military where it doesn't belong, and then to building up our defenses since we pissed everyone off.
     
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    LOL. But seriously, being one of the most richest countries in the world and still don't have some reasonble prices for healthcare is bad.
     
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    You're right about that. And despite my poking fun of the situation, I really do think our focus on military and defense is a big problem. For example:

    US 2008 Iraq budget: $460 billion.
    US 2008 Federal education budget: $56 billion.

    Is it just me, or are our priorities a bit messed up?
     
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    I know that your governors want to catch the bad guys, but they are as good at Hide and Seek as Madeline that disappeared in Portugal:).
     
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    Why? You can always come over as a medical tourist for major surgeries, etc. of the kind that sets you back by say a $25,000+ in the US.
     

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