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Internet Explorer 5.5 Beats IE 6 and 7 in Web Standards Test

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  1. Jimmy 2004

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    Some readers may already be familiar with the Web Standards Project, which claims it “fights for standards that reduce the cost and complexity of development while increasing the accessibility and long-term viability of any site published on the Web.” The Acid Tests provided by the project are commonly used as a benchmark to see how compatible different browsers are, and Internet Explorer has found itself on the end of much criticism when it comes to this, being beaten by nearly all competing browsers such as Opera, Firefox, Safari and Konqueror. However, in the recently launched Acid Test 3, the ancient Internet Explorer 5.5 manages to outscore both IE 6 and 7, reaching a still rather miserable 14% compared to 12% for the other two. Meanwhile, Konqueror leads the pack with 62%, with Firefox in fourth on 52% and Opera a little way down the table at 46%, ahead of Safari on 39%. In terms of beta browsers, Safari is well out in front on 90%, and IE 8 trails at the bottom on 17%.

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    Source: Anomalous Anomaly
     
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    i got a 67/100 with my firefox anyone else? im using beta4
     
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    Can someone please explain why there is an emphasis on browser developers to follow certain standards and not the web-page creators?
     
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    Think about that question a second.

    ...thought about it?

    Okay:

    Why does it matter if web-page creators follow standards if browsers won't support them? If browser developers don't follow recommended standards, then web-page creators can't, either.
     
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    web page code kinda makes the standards....that and if browser developers follow standards its more secure.
     
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    Precisely. How do you think all the computer parts you order fit together? Standards.


    Web developers have to conform to browsers. The biggest headache is cross-browser compatibility. Someday it won't be such a big issue. Hopefully.
     
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    Flash doesn't follow standards. If you want a 100% compliant browser, it wouldn't allow flash vids, or support anything befor XHTML Strict. If a website looks shitty, it's the creator's fault, not the browser's. I think the standard should be what people actually use, and not what a small group of uberNerds dictate. I thought nobody was supposed to own the internet.

    They don't. I don't have any IDE ports on my MOBO. I don't have an AMD socket. Most software isn't compatible on Mac, Windows, and Linux.
     
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    I hate Flash. It can be done tastefully, but most of the time it's abused and merely for the novelty of it.
     
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    Yea, but the point is, there are no standards in the computer world. If you want to write software for a platform that most ppl use, you'll write it for windows. If there are a 100% standard for everything in tech, that would be a monopoly / communism, which is bad. You can't have a small elitest group dictate what must be done in the tech world.

    If you really don't like the way IE displays dotted borders, get a different browser. problem solved.
     
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    Oh, how I wish that were the case.

    Internally, Flash doesn't have to follow anyone's standards -- it's a plugin. Externally, it has to adhere to certain standards to work inside web pages, which it does.

    But yeah, nobody's supposed to own the internet -- this includes Microsoft. The W3C (the organization that largely makes what is considered "standard" code on the web) is a healthy compromise -- it's board comprises members from many different companies, countries, and organizations, including Microsoft, if I'm not mistaken.
     
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    Funny -- if there's wasn't a pretty much 100% standard for how TCP/IP worked, you wouldn't even be able to say that. :shadedshu
     
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    Strange but the GP beta4 you have beats the stable Opera 9.26 (8835) in Acid3

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    Not W3's standards.
     
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    firefox beta 4 -
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    sorry i thought i was beta 3, i forgot it updated this morning
     
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    I get 52 in Acid 3 with Firefox 2.0.0.12 in Vista Ultimate x64. I get 12 in Acid 3 with IE7 64 bit under the same OS. Also get 12 with IE7 non-64 bit (regular 32 bit IE7).
     
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    If not a single browser can render that page sucessfully, then it's obviously not representing any sort of standard whatsoever. That's George Bush announcing that Arabic is the United States' standard langage.
     
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    explorer 6.00.29 got 11/100 :roll:
     
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    Yes, W3's standards: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/objects.html#h-13.3

    Have you ever worked in web design before? If so, you should know that just because MS has their own hacked-together method for doing something doesn't mean there isn't a standardized way of doing it (methods which companies like Adobe adhere to).
     
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    No, it isn't. (Please don't compare the W3C to George Bush.) This is like a group of the world's most premier linguists and experts on language declaring that Navajo should be the standard language of the United States because it best represents the original ideas of the country.

    No, it might not be entirely practical, because we've all grown up speaking something differently, but an intelligent person should at least acknowledge this eminent group's advice, don't you think?
     
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    Opera 9.26 is doing Acid2 fine :)
    but FF 2.0.0.12 cant draw correctly
    (My favorite is Opera of course)
     
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    Opera 9.5 latest BETA gets 65
    IE8 gets 17
    IE8 in IE7mode gets 14
    The latest full Opera gets to 52 before crashing lol.

    That's what I get on my PC with those browsers.
     
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    Kinda funny, IMO, how IE continues to *fail* at these "web standards" tests, when the majority of websites on the internet are still coded more for IE over other browsers . . .

    so, which specific standard are we going by, then?
     
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    Show me one site that validates in XHTML Strict with an embedded flash object.

    Absolutely not. It's a waste of time and won't get anybody anywhere. We've already adopted a standard - it's called popular use. Whatever people are using is the standard. If you come up with some POS that NOBODY is using, you can't call it a standard.
     

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