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Internet is faster in Europe then USA.

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  1. zekrahminator

    zekrahminator McLovin

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    PC World asked its editors around the world how fast the internet is where they live, and got some pretty surprising results. In general, the maximum bandwidth of broadband in Europe is greater then the maximum bandwidth in the United States. There are certain areas in the United Kingdom where DSL subscribers can get 24Mb/s download speeds. Companies such as Talk talk offer combo deals for broadband and phone. Fiber optics are much more common in Europe then they are in the United States, with plans offering 100Mb/s download speeds. Depending on where you live, internet in Europe is also cheaper then it is in the United States. Spanish DSL customers can get 20Mb/s service for 40 Euros ($51) a month, while Norwegian customers have to spend 469 Kroners ($75) a month for the same service. However, there is one distinct advantage for internet in the United States. While Americans are charged for their bandwidth every month, most Europeans are charged for their usage limits.

    Source: Yahoo! News
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    I live in sweden, i got BBB (BredBandsBolaget)... 100/10mbit 100down 10 up. Cost is about 300 swedish kroner a month. Thats about 30euro or 42$ dollars... And i Love IT!! ;)
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    Why give someone any more than 7mbit service in the US when they already pay more for 5mbit. The whole reason that the service in the US is slower is that the Internet Providers are greedy. You can get up to 7mbit, but you pay $50+ a month. Everything is greed driven in the US. I'd gladly deal with a usage limit for higher bandwidth. I am an American living in Canada. When I was home in the US, I have 3Mbit for $40 a month (Verizon). Up here, I get 3Mbit for $45 a month, although they are kind and allow it to run up to 5Mbit without charging more (Bell Canada).
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    Only got 2MB/sec down and 400KB/sec up here where I live in the UK, my phone exchange can't take any higher and aparently cable isn't supplied in my area (kinda annoys me when I live in a city not like some rural area).

    Mind you one thing I do like about the ADSL service I have is there is no fair usage policy.

    While most companies offer "unlimited services" most of the time they have a fair usage clause in the contract meaning they can put 'restrictions' on the service they supply you if you use alot of bandwidth, so if your like me who does a LOT of downloading and uploading you end up getting your speed reduced, or certain internet activity such as p2p, usenet etc blocked.

    I've only found one that doesnt from ADSL providers here in the UK, the one I'm with Griffin Internet. They're a lot more expensive than other companies for the speed you get but combined with the faster than standard up speed for my line (400kb/sec rather than 256kb/sec), a nice static ip as standard and what I really call an unlimited service rather than a unlimited untill you reach a limit service I think they're pretty good. Plus they have a technical support quality I've never experienced before.

    Wow the end of that sounded like an ad lol.

    Very glad we don't have that kinda of charging like in america though.
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    I would love to have one of those quick connections.... but yea the ISP's are definately greedy little money grabbers. As it turns out the area i'm living in is lined with fiber all over the place. Down my straight and all through where i live. But what kind of internet do we get offered? 5mbps dsl! and 6mbps cable. I did a little research and it turns out the lines just some 30 feet from my house or so are already ready for 100mb/s connections but no one is tapping into it! I'm not sure who owns the lines though... i assume the city.
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    That just seems stupid lol, wish I could get a connection that good lol
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    Most of the US is wired for 100mbit. You woun't get it in your home for many many years and it will be uber pricey. I live in a very small town (under 10K people) and our service is better than when I lived in Worcester Massachusetts (my hometown and 250K+ people). No excuse for it really.
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    here, comcast gives 6mbps, speed testers show my speed to be 5.7mbps. The new verizon Fios is supposedly 15mpbs, but, not offered everywhere, better still, it's $15/month cheaper than comcast.
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    I get 4.8 mbit/sec. However I see no need for any more than 1mbit/sec because you'll never get that much. Anyways 100mbit/sec connections should be used for coporate facilities.
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    Hahahha!! Pwned, Bush, Pwned!!
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    I am currently on 2 Meg and pay £14.99 in the UK unlimited, am just about to go 8meg unlimited for £17.99 :D
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    Wrong Thread i think!! :D
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    I bet ya they'll be a fair usage clause in the contract saying they can significantly reduce your connection speed if you use more than 40-50GB bandwidth a month.

    It pisses me off how companies can call these plans "unlimited" when they are clearly unlimited at full speed until you reach a limit :shadedshu
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    meh, its all government conspiracy, the more bandwidth you have the more you are likely to download illegal content off the internet, or off the big wide Internet Tubes. They dont want you to clog up those big tubes or Stephens will get really pissed and have another speech about how these tubes get clogged. Usually when your tubes clogged you get a big vacuum cleaner and suck em out, ted gets that done twice a month.
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    oooo it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy to know I must be clogging up his tubes.... maybe i'll try to send him an internet, see if all that clogging of his tubes I've been doing will cause the internet to arrive next week
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    Cablevision NYC was the BEST/FASTEST I have ever used:

    6mb down/up iirc, & was the FASTEST IN THE NATION, bar-none... I had used Time Warner RoadRunner for years on broadband before it, not even CLOSE...

    (They pull a pretty simple trick for it w/ the DOCSIS compliant routers/hubs they use, & by section, they put say 250 people on a section, where that section can take 500 easily... they invested smartly, & got a HUGE SURGE of customers because of it in fact that year! Because, regardless of what they TELL folks or what you hear? IT IS ALL SHARED BANDWIDTH!)

    BUT, great rates for USA... However, still - Not like the rates you guys are describing...

    In 2003, I took work as a Tier #2 & then promo to Tier #1 network engineer for CableVision, NYC!

    I got handed the stuff others in Tier #3 couldn't solve, etc. (one problem COMPAQ/HP were blaming us for, I proved QUITE otherwise (they were shipping one model of machine with WAY too 'amped up/aggressive' network card driver parameters... I tuned 'em down, & BINGO... that model of machine 'suddenly' worked for our modems (both Motorola Surfboards 4200, best there was imo, & even other models)).

    Nope, I took that job, not coding but with reason: Easy work for me imo, & I needed a job fast, NY is hellishly expensive!

    ANYHOW!

    Coding jobs (even one offered by MS to me, & I did not approach they (for their crash debug dump analysis team for Windows Error Reporting) & to this day? I don't KNOW how the hell they got ahold of me to be honest!)

    Anyhow - but I only got 3/4 questions they asked on phase #2, some of the hardest I have EVER seen in fact about coding - I'll post the 3 I recall if you like just so you can SEE how MS interviews (testing intellect imo & problem solving skills)?

    They were taking TOO long to kick back to me in interviews. I needed to make money fast.

    * SO, I used their network for free of course, part of the job bennies.

    APK

    P.S.=> TimeWarner? They only caught up, iirc, last year to Cablevision's rate... Someone said it above: It's ALL about money, fat checks mgt. gets, stockholders want returns YESTERDAY & higher quarterly earnings...

    How you gonna do that, if you have to PAY for good talent (costs), good equipment (costs) & still show them that, especially when you have DSL, which iirc, is geographically unconstrained, whereas cable broadband providers, are in regions...?

    Still, root of all this? Well 10mb is the limit anyhow... regardless of us having 100mbit capable NIC or gigabit ethernet, on consumer commodity broadband afaik @ least.

    apk
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    Internet is faster in Europe then USA? LOL I think the US might have faster internet then who CUBA. But I do know one thing, the US is #1 in cost. Maybe it is so limited in the US because if they had a faster internet the amount of if info to monitor the US gov would just have a harder time spying on thier own.
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    I don't know if this is true this is just something I think I read a while back.

    I recall reading something about the lack of choice in ISPs in america with some areas only having 2-3 providers.

    Seems a strange concept to me in the UK coz wherever there are phone lines here there are a great deal of providers.

    Like I said though dunno if thats true, ifit is can see why the prices are so high, not enough competition lol
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    1 word/game...Monopoly, all the ISPs and Cable people have a monopoly and crap on people. My whole town has to have Charter for cable internet or SBC for dsl.
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    Yeah and the problem with fair usage policy (apart from the obvious) is that if you go through a period of heavy peak time usage and they invoke the policy, how long a period of light usage before they reverse the policy????? NEVER so they get 8MB worth of costs out of you for 1MB worth of speed during peak times......some ISP's are better than others but hey whats's fair to one may not seem fair to another!
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    You really should unplug your computer. If you are that worried about it, put a tin foil hat on and sit in your lead lined fallout shelter. Another total moron.........
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    Not so...according to the article, a 4MB connection costs the equivalent of $101 in Denmark.
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    Lol, and im always complaining of the cost in the UK. Recently theres been a flurry of Local Loop Unbundling removing BTs monopoly and prices are rapidly falling.

    However AFAIK, France is the place to be for an internet connection in Europe. Just look at the prices charged by one of their best providers.

    http://translate.google.com/transla...=result&prev=/search?q=Freebox&hl=en&lr=&sa=G

    30 euros for the internet/telephone and HDTV content on demand(well you dont get premium channels), also availability is still limited to big cities i think.

    I think we'll get closer to these prices as soon as internet telephone calling becomes the norm and the need to pay for a telephone line disappears. BT are introducing something similar called BT Vision, but the prices are still no where near as good and they force you to pay for a telephone line.
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    While I agree that his idea was quite ludacris you always tend to flame. Every chance you get you snap at someone for saying something you don't agree with. Calling someone a moron for believing what they believe is pretty obnoxious. You are pretty obnoxious. lately, I haven't been to fond of you. Wise up and act mature.
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    thats because we rule, and you all suck :D

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