Is it just me or is the E8400 still one hell of a performer?

[MaxAwesome]

Granted, mine is overclocked @ 4.1ghz; but man, does it rock everything in its path!

I think it's going to be hard to dethrone this CPU as the king of price/performance.

AND I think it's going to be a long time before any game runs like crap on this CPU.

Well, props must be given to AMD for X3 720... but man, E8400...

After almost a year, i'm still in love with this CPU.

 

[Asylum]

Yea had 1 myself.
Definatly alot of bang for the buck!!

 

[vbx]

I have the e8500 stock, and am happy with it. it idles at 27c on passive cooling. And encodes my video clips in liike 15 minutes compared to 40 minutes via Pentium 4.

 

[BUCK NASTY]

Still rolling with my E8400 @ 3.85Ghz. I want to move up to Phenom II(just to unlock cores), but I doubt I'll see much of a performance boost(if any). I built this rig 1-1/2 years ago and this chip was an excellent choice.

 

[1Kurgan1]

The PII 710 is $99 now and the PII 720 is only $119. The E8400 was and is a great processor, but it's $48 more than the 720 and 68 more than the 710, the price/performance king is really those 2 now.

 

[lococol]

i have yet to find a game i cant run on full settings , although im sure gta4 will work this cpu , i use an e8500 @ 4Ghz , ive actually seen some tables where in certain games the i7-920 @ stock is slower than the e8500 @ stock , make of that what you will , but it makes sense if the game isnt using more than 2 cores , i think we are going to see a lot of games optimised for quad core coming out soon , but until then i love this cpu

 

[newtekie1]

Hell, I'm still running my E6600@3.6GHz and am more than happy...

I think right now, there are probably the largest number of processors that simply rock for the price:

E5200
E6300
E7400
X2 250
X3 710
X2 550 BE
x4 810

All processors that, IMO, rock for the price.

 

[stuartpb]

I managed 4.4Ghz stable on an 8400, on H2o. It made a massive difference when I was playing FSX. My i7 920 starts wheezing at 3.9Ghz, and the frame rate is lower in FSX to boot too. So I would say the 8400 is a friggin great chip!

http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=765891
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=408059

 

[boomstik360]

i7 is a whole different ball game when overclocking you have to account for 2 more cores, or 6 if you count the logical ones, way higher TDP, lots of other things, you can't compare the two that way stuart. My e8400 when I had one was alright. I wasn't blown away by the speed or anything but it was a good cpu for what is was. It is definitely not worth the price right now though. Neither is any of the e8x00 series.

 

[stuartpb]

Yeah fair comments. I still wish I had my 8400, just for the OC'ing and CPU intensive stuff really. The higher clock frequencies helped out alot more than the extra cores in alot of apps I use and FSX. I wish devs would hurry up and catch up with the hardware tbh Multi cored CPU's have been around for ages, but the amount of apps and games that utilise the extra cores fully is minimal.

 

[Velvet Wafer]

when you want to cross a deep river with high speed, you have to build you a bridge before... seems logical...

 

[Kantastic]

I think the X2 550 already dethroned it.

 

[boomstik360]

I think the X2 550 already dethroned it.

Pretty much.

 

[MaxAwesome]

All Intel needs to do is to drop E8x00 prices and voilá: They have Core 2 Duo back as kings.

But Intel won't do that... :/

I think the X2 550 already dethroned it.

It may be cheaper, but certainly not faster.

E8400 (E0)> Phenom II x2 550

Phenom II > E8400 when price is comes into play.

But Core 2 Duo architecture is still faster clock per clock, compared to the Phenom II architecture, even if only slightly.

It's great that AMD is catching up, but seriously... it's catching up to older tech. Intel's Core 2 has been flexing this kind of muscle since Jan 2008 (with the 45nm CPUs), and still AMD dual cores can't beat it.

I'm glad for AMD though. But if I was building now, and had to go Dual Core, I'd probably just still get a used E8400 or E8500 just for sheer speed and OC capability. (I don't think an OCed Phenom II X2 could keep up with an OCed Core 2 Duo.)

In my opinion, they are still better.

On a side note: Dual Core CPUs are here to stay, despite what many are spreading. I don't see myself upgrading CPU until early 2011. Either Phenom II X2 or Core 2 Duo, I think these CPUs will carry on happily until then (gaming wise).

 

[Kantastic]

Never knew that C2D architecture was better than PII. Go figure.

 

[MaxAwesome]

Never knew that C2D architecture was better than PII. Go figure.

Well, when the Phenom II X2 CPUs are neck and neck to Core 2 Duo CPUs, and Phenom II x4 are neck and neck to Core 2 Quad...

List of things you should know:

1- C2D isn't an architecture/tech by itself:
Core2Duo = Core 2 Dual core.
Core2Quad = Core 2 Quad core.
Core 2 = the name of the technology.

2- Phenom II is the architecture/tech that fuels current AMD dual/tri/quad chips. Core 2 is the architecture that fuels older Core 2 Duo/Quad CPUs.

2.1- But both techs are on par with each other. Despite Intel's being almost 2 years old (for the 45nm couterparts) and AMD's is months old.

3- Phenom II x2 550 matches Core 2 Duo E8400/E8500; (Nothing from AMD can touch the performance of the E8400 core for core; and certainly no dual-core AMD chip could touch the performance of an overclocked Core 2 Duo. Fact. Hard.)

4-AMD's Phenom II X4 models essentially match Intel's Core 2 Quad (45nm) models;

5- Both = trail closely behind Core i7.

6- http://www.overclock.net/hardware-news/521972-eic-how-do-new-processors-stack.html

What should you look for there? Oh yeah, it's just the E8400 beating Phenom II X2 550 (and sometimes even the Phenom II 720 X3).

Now imagine that E8400 overclocked beyond 4ghz... and bye bye Phenom II.

Happy now?

 

[Kursah]

e8400's a great chip, and get's better every day imo. Great for a budget gaming rig, as they're fairly cheap, cool running and an easy 400FSB/low-voltage 3.6ghz is a no-brainer. Not much more is really needed or necessary for most gaming rigs, and even at 3.6ghz most C0 e8400's I used were around the 1.22v-1.28v area when overclocked there...keeping them very cool running.

I've yet to find a point to upgrading to I7 yet for what I do, still enjoying my q6600 at this point, maybe someday with the newer intel tech is more viable for my needs, but until them I'm perfectly happy and so is my fiance with her e8500 c0 at 3.8ghz @ 1.21v. A budget Core2/DDR2/P35-45 is definately the way I would still go today, get plenty for the money and something I doubt won't run games in 2-3 years, if not well beyond imo.

 

[boomstik360]

Check out this review. The phenom II beats the i7 in most of the games, or they tie each other. http://www.modreactor.com/english/R...E-vs-Intel-Core-i7-920/Page-8-Conclusion.html

 

[ShadowFold]

Check out this review. The phenom II beats the i7 in most of the games, or they tie each other. http://www.modreactor.com/english/R...E-vs-Intel-Core-i7-920/Page-8-Conclusion.html

 

[boomstik360]

Lol sorry. I am just showing this guy.

 

[MaxAwesome]

Check out this review. The phenom II beats the i7 in most of the games, or they tie each other. http://www.modreactor.com/english/R...E-vs-Intel-Core-i7-920/Page-8-Conclusion.html

So yeah... The fastest Phenom II Quad beats the slowest Core i7.

Amazing.

At stock speeds, a Core Quad Q9550 will give the i7 920 a run for it's money.

SEE -> http://www.overclock.net/hardware-news/521972-eic-how-do-new-processors-stack.html

What to look for here? Oh Yeah, it's the E8400 beating the X2 550 and sometimes the X3 720. Nothing much, eh?

SEE -> http://techreport.com/articles.x/16147/1

What to look for here? Core 2 Quads and Phenom II X4s being very close.

 

[TheLaughingMan]

I know there has been a lot of new stuff lately, but honestly any processor (with the except of some mistakes we will not mention) should still play games and do "computer stuff" damn well.

A CPU should last 3 years easy in my opinion. Hell my old AMD 4400+ on the 939 socket was still strong after 3 1/2 years. Memory was my old rigs Achilles Heel.

So to you E8400 owners....be proud, it was an investment and a damn good one.

 

[Deleted member 24505]

I've got a E8600 4ghz at 1.2v

 

[Kantastic]

Well, when the Phenom II X2 CPUs are neck and neck to Core 2 Duo CPUs, and Phenom II x4 are neck and neck to Core 2 Quad...

List of things you should know:

1- C2D isn't an architecture/tech by itself:
Core2Duo = Core 2 Dual core.
Core2Quad = Core 2 Quad core.
Core 2 = the name of the technology.

2- Phenom II is the architecture/tech that fuels current AMD dual/tri/quad chips. Core 2 is the architecture that fuels older Core 2 Duo/Quad CPUs.

2.1- But both techs are on par with each other. Despite Intel's being almost 2 years old (for the 45nm couterparts) and AMD's is months old.

3- Phenom II x2 550 matches Core 2 Duo E8400/E8500; (Nothing from AMD can touch the performance of the E8400 core for core; and certainly no dual-core AMD chip could touch the performance of an overclocked Core 2 Duo. Fact. Hard.)

4-AMD's Phenom II X4 models essentially match Intel's Core 2 Quad (45nm) models;

5- Both = trail closely behind Core i7.

6- http://www.overclock.net/hardware-news/521972-eic-how-do-new-processors-stack.html

What should you look for there? Oh yeah, it's just the E8400 beating Phenom II X2 550 (and sometimes even the Phenom II 720 X3).

Now imagine that E8400 overclocked beyond 4ghz... and bye bye Phenom II.

Happy now?

Wait so you spent like... 4/5th of your post explaining which architecture matches which, so logically thinking, the 550 should be faster than the E8400 since it's clocked higher. (Not taking OC into consideration.)

 

[hat]

http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd336/fr_slingsandarrows/captain_obvious_rock_gift.jpg

I hate this kind of thing. Just because it's obvious to you and me doesn't mean it's obvious to everyone. Don't forget, most of the world views us as computer elites.

As for CPU performance in games, my 3GHz Sempron is just as good as someone's 4GHz i7 with a similar setup (the i7 will probably have like 5 fps more). God... sometimes I want to whip out my debit card for a GTX260 to prove everyone wrong