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Is the Phenom x4 9950 still worth buying?

Discussion in 'System Builder's Advice' started by KieranD, Jul 7, 2009.

  1. KieranD

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    I have a friend who wants a new pc i got him to settle on a 4850 1gb for graphics all we need to settle is the cpu.

    He watched a video on youtube of someone claiming to run crysis on very high at 60fps with a x4 9950 and a 4850

    I kept saying get a phenom II x3 710 or a x4 810 or something similar.

    I mean come on if my hardware cant run crysis well on high then how is a phenom 1 and a 4850 going too.


    I recommended a quad because he does video editing and dosnt want to oc yes i had a lengthy discussion about it and he think it might break his whole system so let not try persuade anyone.
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    No. Never was IMO. The only Phenoms worth buying were the Tri-cores because they were 95W chips instead of 140W chips, and could overclock to 3Ghz to give half-decent performance. 9950 was very poor performance per watt, plus it blew a lot of motherboards as they didn't support 140W chips back then.

    Don't even bother with a Phenom.

    Also, tell him that if he uses YouTube for PC advice he deserves to waste his money on shit.
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    thanks now someone else backs me up hopefully he wont waste his cash

    oh and now it has to be one of these pc http://www.cyberpowersystem.co.uk/r03/ri03.asp

    he wont build either turning all im trying to do is get him to spend his cash properly so he dosnt waste it

    "no no no i am not a hardcore gamer" "but this one runs crysis full max"
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    60 FPS on Crysis I was barely able to obtain such rates with a C2D on 4GHz and two 4890s, so no God damn way.
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    i know i wonder if he would join the forums to join in on this thread himself
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    Even on my 4870 I'm having trouble getting FPS above 45 on the max settings, which is why I don't use YouTube....
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    youtube is fake they dont even prove they are using that hardware it could be anything much more powerful

    and i bet it was jerky before fraps was used
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    I should have screenshots even with a quad core and two 4890s to prove that his desired configuration won't do the job.
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    what should he be looking to get then like a Phenom II x3 720 or something like that?
    what about the intel side of things?
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    AMD wise I have no clue. Intel wise, if he wants to play on very high, it needs to be a fairly powerful quad core. I had a E8400 on friggin 4500MHz and still it lagged sometimes.
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    Q8200 but its like 2.3ghz stock and he wont oc it at all

    at those speeds it would get beat by other cpu i think


    nah most he can realistically hope for is like medium/high like everyone else
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    I advise him get the fastest Core 2 duo, and the fastest single graphic card, that he can affords.

    E8500 + GTX275

    Crysis doesn't use 4 cores.
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    an E8200 and a 4850 would be okay but then i had that choice and went for a x3 720 and a gtx 260 hmmmn he does loads of video editing for a clan
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    Phenom x4 9950 is not worth buying!

    it dosnt matter, he will find out that whatever he buys cannot play crysis or gta even on a decent frame rate, he will find out oc'ing is needed for any cpu and that custom built is shit

    the price of a custom built is ridiculous

    hes off msn and i think ill just let him find a pc and let him discover all the bad things himself
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    Learning the hard way. Sometimes the best option. I went thru that, too. Bought a prebuilt rig for 2500 bucks, WAY overpriced. I learned from my mistakes.
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    well the other thing is he might actually be happy with his crap pre built thinking its the best :laugh:
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    Second the E8500 and 275

    Although I'm quite sure crysis does use 4 cores.
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    Maybe on 1024x768... w/ the quality of youtube videos you can never tell :rolleyes:

    *note I've noticed that the GTA4 video was only done in 1280x1024
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    Well the Phenom is really not that bad. If the price is right, then go for it. As long as he doesn't play on something like 1280x1024, he'll be ok. For any resolution over 16xx performance is almost entirely GPU based. Also check out some reviews, in video encoding the 9950 beats the stock 720 in everything that can utilize 4 cores. 4 > 3
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    he has a budget of £500 thats why i recommended some of the stuff i did and a brand new phenom x4 9950 is a custom built pre built pc is going to cost full price like £120 or whatever it is these days and for that you can get a superior phenom 2
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    that x4 810 would suit him, but he dosnt overclock he said it will burn his cpu like only a retard could burn a cpu its not like he would be doing major clocks but he WONT listen

    the gajilion of reviews show that at medium to high on a decent resolution the x4 9950 falls behind sure the extra core never hurts but its not worth the extra core to go back a step in tech
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    why does he fear it will kill his whole rig?
    cant you just show him the tdp for both chips and a few reports about blewn mosfets on some boards (for the Phenom 1)? The thought of crackling and an open Flame in his rig will surely have its effect

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