Joint Strike Fighter Still Has Problems

FordGT90Concept · Sep 17, 2013

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/2013/09/joint-strike-fighter-lockheed-martin

The Daily Beast said:
Vanity Fair dove deep into the troubled Joint Strike Fighter program, and what it found isn’t pretty. The $1.5 trillion plane that was supposed to be the next generation in fighter jets is years over deadline, billions over budget, and might not be able to safely fly. A helmet that uses cameras to give pilots 360-degree vision, one of the centerpieces of the F-35, was supposed to be its crowning achievement, but Lockheed still hasn’t finished the software for it. Furthermore, pilots who’ve tested the F-35 have found it laggy, disorienting, and blurry. The plane has been grounded repeatedly for broken parts, it can’t fly near lightning, and the stealth coating burns off when it goes supersonic.

That last sentence in the quote...ouch.

Batou1986 · Sep 17, 2013

vanity fair
talking about fighter jets
my sides

Nordic · Sep 17, 2013

Not only over budget, billions over budget. Ouch.

FordGT90Concept · Sep 17, 2013

Batou1986 said:
vanity fair
talking about fighter jets
my sides

It is pretty thorough though. I recommend at least paging through it.

james888 said:
Not only over budget, billions over budget. Ouch.

Yeah, and not even close to ready. It's fail, fail, fail.

HossHuge · Sep 22, 2013

Canada is reassessing it's plans to buy this plane now. It's thinking Super Hornet instead.

Kursah · Sep 22, 2013

Sounds like we need a private market Fighter Jet-X program.

Too bad, I was hoping to read amazing things about the F-35...not Vanity Fair showing how much fail it is. Lol.

Fourstaff · Sep 22, 2013

It is a vanity project, I suppose it should get featured in Vanity Fair :rolleyes:

I am actually pretty surprised that they are not building technology part by part: get the basic airframe to work first, add stealth coating, etc. Test 360 view on one of the older airframe (F-15?) to fix the errors, and then incorporate it into the JSF. Instead they rolled everything in, and got a clusterf**k.

HossHuge · Sep 22, 2013

I guess they should have chosen the x-32.

FordGT90Concept · Sep 22, 2013

Fourstaff said:
I am actually pretty surprised that they are not building technology part by part: get the basic airframe to work first, add stealth coating, etc. Test 360 view on one of the older airframe (F-15?) to fix the errors, and then incorporate it into the JSF. Instead they rolled everything in, and got a clusterf**k.

Stealth starts with the airframe. RAM is far less effective than an airframe designed not to reflect RADAR energy back at the source. Case in point: F-15's tail fins, engine intakes, and engine exhaust is a dead give away with no real solution how to fix it. It also doesn't have VTOL capabilities like the F-35 is supposed to have.

I think the heart of the problem is the aircraft has too many ambitious technologies that haven't been tested on other platforms yet (like the 360 degree HUD).

HossHuge said:
I guess they should have chosen the x-32.

http://media.tumblr.com/e2a869cfed1446b0fe8e2dcd0f442d2f/tumblr_inline_mltmnmaXzM1qz4rgp.jpg

I suspect it would have ran into similar issues.

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Joint Strike Fighter Still Has Problems

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