just bought a corsair h50

[Kei]

Kantastic was saying that it's NOT supposed to compete with a full/real/custom built H2O setup. Corsair isn't even marketing it that way from what I've seen. They only compare it to the top air coolers, which makes perfect sense to me.

Kei

 

[Naekuh]

Compare Apples to apples not Apples to Jesus

You can only compare the H50 to another 120mm rad cpu only loop really.

Then you have to factor in the prices.

Recheck my post... i threw a 69.90 DD kit up also.

Kantastic was saying that it's NOT supposed to compete with a full/real/custom built H2O setup. Corsair isn't even marketing it that way from what I've seen. They only compare it to the top air coolers, which makes perfect sense to me.

Kei

Not the way he worded it..

:shadedshu

You're still stubborn about the H50 being meant to compete with real water cooling.

Did i read his post wrong?

Compare Apples to apples not Apples to Jesus

You can only compare the H50 to another 120mm rad cpu only loop really.

Then you have to factor in the prices.

Now when have u seen a REAL H2O kit with just 1 120mm rad?
Your going vegetable on us... and not staying with fruit.

 

[pantherx12]

Recheck my post... i threw a 69.90 DD kit up also.

Well if you can get hold of one of those then I'd say fuck yeah go for that

its not hard setting up custom at all my first time had no issues and no leaks.

Just have to tighten all the clips until you can't anymore is all



Edit : re to you latest edit.

Matx cases

 

[Naekuh]

Oh the only matx case i h2o'd was a qmicra..
And as you know those take a 120x2 natively.

 

[Kei]

Recheck my post... i threw a 69.90 DD kit up also.



Not the way he worded it..



Did i read his post wrong?



Now when have u seen a REAL H2O kit with just 1 120mm rad?
Your going vegetable on us... and not staying with fruit.

Yep, he's continuing from another thread about the H50 where Binge was talking down about it. That's why he said what he said, it makes sense though that if you hadn't seen that thread his statement could be taken out of context...I just realized that it was two different threads lol.

Now then....about that Danger Den kit...$69?!? Where? How? I love vegetables!!!!!!

Kei

 

[Naekuh]

Yep, he's continuing from another thread about the H50 where Binge was talking down about it. That's why he said what he said, it makes sense though that if you hadn't seen that thread his statement could be taken out of context...I just realized that it was two different threads lol.

Now then....about that Danger Den kit...$69?!? Where? How? I love vegetables!!!!!!

Kei

Oh i appologize then.

You can me once...

 

[Kei]

Oh i appologize then.

You can me once...

complete

 

[Wrigleyvillain]

That DD kit will STOMP the H5O... IF u can find it at frys.

Im going to look in Downer's Grove on Sunday. Not too hopeful but you never know. Been awhile since I made it out there anyway.

As for the H50 all I can say myself is jimmyz has one and likes it, admittedly to my surprise. 'Course he also didn't have to pay for it (review for Ninja Lane)

 

[Naekuh]

Well lemme tell you what our REP said on AT.

I should hope so, the Swiftech Compact costs more than twice as much!

I respect your opinion - but the rest of your post isn't describing the approach we took with the H50. You're describing a great product - one that would outperform the H50, but would be much, much more expensive.

We've partnered with Swiftech before on products - the Corsair COOL, for example. We've also produced external cooling solutions like the Nautilus 500.

In reality - the number of people who spend more than $100 on CPU cooling is very small, and most of them are going to build their own liquid cooling loop.

From a sales perspective - there just aren't enough customers to justify the development costs. That doesn't mean that we won't do it - it just means it's harder to make money if we decide to do that.

Thanks for your comments - you've really brought the opposing viewpoint out and showed that there are some people out there that the H50 isn't designed for. We knew that to begin with - we never wanted to compete with the Swiftech unit, but instead were trying to compete against high-end aircooling.

So yeah, you can buy a TRUE and lap it, do the washer mod, get some decent fans and you'll outperform the H50 in a high-airflow case. But for most people - they'd rather buy something off the shelf and have it work right out of the box.

We're not trying to be the best CPU cooler in the world - just the best one for ~$70.


PS - if you want to see it pitted against an IFX-14, check here: http://www.informaticaeasy.net...s-ifx-14.html?start=10

It's in Italian but the graphs are easily understood. We're very competitive with the IFX-14.

I am Aigomorla on AT for those of you that dont know..

Its a good kit, i'll say it. But... its not a true water kit.
You have to deal with all the problems water can bring, yet you dont get the performance.
However its lighter then most of the air sinks its classed against, so its a partial win.

 

[Kantastic]

so how is it suposed to compete?
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p73/aigomorla/Haruhi/IMG_1385.jpg

Yeah... the top is a LOT more expensive... but ur trying to class the H5O against a real H2O setup?
I even got corsair rep on AT to admit the H5O wasnt a REAL H2O setup.

OH how about it compete against this.. if you have a FRYS near ya...
http://media8.dropshots.com/photos/684249/20091223/b_202742.jpg

That DD kit will STOMP the H5O... IF u can find it at frys.

Reread and proofread my friend.

 

[pantherx12]

Oh the only matx case i h2o'd was a qmicra..
And as you know those take a 120x2 natively.

http://www.pcdesignlab.com/images/forums/Q2-D.jpg

I mean to say it does have its applications.

The vast majority of cases don't have that nice feature after all, and not everyone wants a big ole rad hanging out the side of the system


I used a Domino ALC for a while ( another all in one prebuilt wc although I;m sure you know it)

And I was very impressed with the results, this coming from a True 120ex.

beat the bugger by a whole 20c under-load! ..


my current set up beats the true by 45c under-load mind you

 

[Naekuh]

Reread and proofread my friend.

Kei explained it to me...

LOL which is why i said i take it back.

my current set up beats the true by 45c under-load mind you

Heh...

My Rad chamber (theres 4 total in there).. need i say more?

But i think i pulled a watermelon in this thread.
Fear the Zipties!! (i give given the title "ziptie king" on XS BTW)

 

[brandonwh64]

H50

VS

/EndThread

 

[pantherx12]

H50

VS

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/brandonwh64/water.jpg

/EndThread

Yeah and how much did that cost? ( in England that pump/res costs more then the H50 on its own)


@naekuh, that's insane!

i love it lol

 

[Kei]

Yeah and how much did that cost?


@naekuh, that's insane!

i love it lol

I'm curious too

Naekuh....my stomach is now upset from ingesting too much awesome in a single 24 hour period.

Kei

 

[Kantastic]

H50

VS

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/brandonwh64/water.jpg

/EndThread

I'm more interested in why you have 2 fans on 1 side of the rad...

 

[pantherx12]

I'm more interested in why you have 2 fans on 1 side of the rad...

He hasn't the first fan has the fan part knocked out.

It reduces the dead spot caused by the motor so you get better results.

 

[Kantastic]

He hasn't the first fan has the fan part knocked out.

It reduces the dead spot caused by the motor so you get better results.

/genuis

 

[Naekuh]

I'm more interested in why you have 2 fans on 1 side of the rad...

i actually have 6 fans in that chamber.

There is 3 on the PA, then another 3 sandwitched between 2 MCR320's.

It has shrouds so it just looks like that...

I am using a serial setup, because i realized the air coming out of the rad isnt that different depending on heat load and CFM.

Rarely will i get more then a 2-3C variance from the intake of the first rad to the intake of the second.

The PA160 i have in behind my PA120.3 looks like this.

He hasn't the first fan has the fan part knocked out.

It reduces the dead spot caused by the motor so you get better results.

Yup.. my ghetto shroud.

 

[Kei]

That's a pretty amazing looking setup Naekuh!

Kei

 

[brandonwh64]

Yeah and how much did that cost? ( in England that pump/res costs more then the H50 on its own)


@naekuh, that's insane!

i love it lol

40$ from Phan! i got one dual RAD one single RAD a XSPC RES/PUMP 5 120MM fans apogee gt block

 

[pantherx12]

40$ from Phan! i got one dual RAD one single RAD a XSPC RES/PUMP 5 120MM fans apogee gt block

Ahh second hand doesn't count man

if I bought my WC set up new it would of cost me close to 200 pounds

( around 322 of your moneys )

Got yourself a bargain there though I have to say

 

[Naekuh]

LOL... thats not my only massive cooling system...

Miyuki on dual 480's.

The pumps are config'd like this:

And i spent a lot... Ive been watercooling since in 1999.
Back when we used bonnie heatercores, and had to use fish aquarium pumps to get water across..

Memories..

And I San Aces... However im loving GT's more...

The craziest thing ive done with water is probably this:

was used to cool this:

OK i think i derailed this thread.. and i apologize.
But u guys got a sample of what high tier H2O is.

I think i can say i accurately helped plan out over 100+ watercooling systems since i first started.
On AT, im considered a legend when it comes to water, on XS, im the biggest PITA to vendors.

 

[pantherx12]

Impressive!
got to be asked, what temperatures do you get on your main rig? ( system specs one)



I keep seeing "PITA" around the forums but I've no idea what it means, care to enlighten me?

Because to me its a type of bread , often stuffed with doner meat XD

 

[Kei]

I keep seeing "PITA" around the forums but I've no idea what it means, care to enlighten me?

Because to me its a type of bread , often stuffed with doner meat XD

In other less civilized parts of the globe it means 'pain in the @ss'

@ Naekuh

You are officially my watercooling 'deity'! Those are some truly jaw dropping setups there.

Kei