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It DOES help others when you actually post some results of your use of a product instead of simply bashing it calling it a worthless investment without any basis of comparison to show for it. I'm not trying to be a pain to you, I was simply asking for some numbers, and what you used it for to gain better knowledge of how it performed for you. You said it performed +/- 1% of the TRUE that you were using....but what good does that do us if we don't know how that performed either...was it crap too?

Like I said I'm NOT buying one, I tested one already and it did very well (I posted results already in more than one thread)...if you're looking for the absolute best temps then you would already have build a big water system in the first place or went more hardcore than that. Everyone knows the H50 is not out to produce world record performance...nobody has suggested that (certainly not on the box or advertisements), but people ARE interested in what level of performance it can achieve whether that's through stock means or modified means.

I understand that for whatever reason you don't care/like the H50, and obviously that's perfectly fine as it's your opinion to do so. What I can't understand is that if your'e NOT going to share information on why (besides just saying it's dumb), and you're NOT going to tell us anything useful about your experience with it versus...anything. Then why in the world are you still posting in this thread starting to now look like a gem is about to come from your stomach and your hair will grow hugely and turn colored? I don't know how old you are, but in ways you're starting to sound very young and stubborn like a child. (no offense, just stating what I'm reading) :toast:

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I said it was a worthless investment if you already had a decent cooler. The information is particularly worthless because I don't have a test-bed and my ambient temperature changes based on time of day and how much heat has been put into the room from running the PC. The room I am in is not air conditioned. My results have no validity in practice and only have validity in the time I spent with either cooler. My chip isn't dead. Is that good enough? PS I've said my temps already in this thread.
 
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MM, what is the ambient if you don't mind my asking?
 

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let's say the average temp for you is 28.5 C then, your chip puts off 145W at stock. That's nothing. I doubt your rad is even getting saturated. That means in a larger WC setup your temps wouldn't change one bit.

::EDIT:: on second thought you may see less of a variance in your temps. They would mostly top out at 41C no matter the ambient.
 
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Its to hot round your parts MM : [

My ambients are round 10-15c most of the time so I get great results :p
 

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My ambients are usually around 15-20C or so which leaves me sitting pretty nice too. :)

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let's say the average temp for you is 28.5 C then, your chip puts off 145W at stock. That's nothing. I doubt your rad is even getting saturated. That means in a larger WC setup your temps wouldn't change one bit.

::EDIT:: on second thought you may see less of a variance in your temps. They would mostly top out at 41C no matter the ambient.

I never pass 45c under load.
 

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Then you're getting 0 saturation. It would be embarrassing to go balls to the walls with your setup. At about 240W then you'd see a benefit from more radiator.
 

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Then you're getting 0 saturation. It would be embarrassing to go balls to the walls with your setup. At about 240W then you'd see a benefit from more radiator.

Well then I guess I'm the H50 target demographic.
 

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**no disrespect to the purists of watercooling**

i have this one and if someone asks if i would recommend it, hell yes. fact is; its cheap, decent performing, ease of installation with almost no maintenance makes it a perfect product for the masses. sure, it may not perform like true watercooling or last as long as traditional air cooling but there are draw backs between these options, either. i guess, its safe to insert the line you get what you pay for. the thing here is that, not everyone can afford true watercooling and not everyone has the luxury of time in maintaining a watercooled system. come to think of it, not everyone needs a watercooled system, anyway - even for casual overclockers.

heck, if i can afford one i'd go water any day but then my budget is constrained and i prefer minimal look on the cpu-socket area so i picked the h50 (from my HDT-S1283). i even had to [strikethrough]beg[/strikethrough] ask corsair to send me the new bracket for my LGA1156 motherboard reviews but that's a different story. :D i apologize if i jumped in into your conversation but i couldn't help it.

btw, saturation in my opinion is only reached when the cooler is subjected to a TDP higher than it is rated for at a considerable period of time (e.g. running linx 24 hours/day). today's current processors where power management is considered and active cooling through the fan, i doubt you'd saturate the h50 with daily tasks.
 

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Play GTA IV with an i7 @ 4.2GHz on the H50 and tell me it doesn't get saturated. ;) There's a club for this cooler, you should join it. The fact is you're right with everything you've said except the bit about saturation. If the mailman overclocked his rig and didn't keep his room super ACed then he would saturate his rad quickly and his temps would see the same results as an air cooler.
 

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well, what i said is that it only reaches saturation when the cooler is subjected to a TDP higher than what it is capable of with respect to its active cooling. so with the example that you provided; it only proves that i7 at 4.2 Ghz is way beyond the H50's TDP rating but then again, i must admit i don't really know how much this thing is capable of handling. :D

edit: no time for clubs, i'm backlogged with reviews. :/
 

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well, what i said is that it only reaches saturation when the cooler is subjected to a TDP higher than what it is capable of with respect to its active cooling. so with the example that you provided; it only proves that i7 at 4.2 Ghz is way beyond the H50's TDP rating but then again, i must admit i don't really know how much this thing is capable of handling. :D

Research water temperature deltas and then we'll talk. The H50 can handle it, but it would be as saturated as a normal air cooler. I consider saturation to be a 25+ degree delta.
 

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i don't think you understood what i'm trying to say. i am by no means an expert on thermodynamics but what i'm saying is that, for example your cooler is guaranteed to be able to handle 140W of heat with a fan (to move the heat from cooler to air) and the processor is giving off say 65W (fluctuating due to power management features implemented) then it wouldn't saturate the cooler because the heat is constantly being moved to somewhere else (again, this is just a rough example).

unless my common sense is flawed, then please correct me if i'm wrong.
 

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i don't think you understood what i'm trying to say. i am by no means an expert on thermodynamics but what i'm saying is that, for example your cooler is guaranteed to be able to handle 140W of heat with a fan (to move the heat from cooler to air) and the processor is giving off say 65W (fluctuating due to power management features implemented) then it wouldn't saturate the cooler because the heat is constantly being moved to somewhere else (again, this is just a rough example).

i'm unless my common sense is flawed, then please correct me if i'm wrong.

It's different with water because water can be more or less efficient depending on how much thermal mass is collected in the water. The further it is from room temperature when the water leaves the radiator then the worse the cooling becomes. You don't even want your radiator to feel warm. With good water cooling that rarely happens. There's so much surface area and air movement that the TDP never forces the water to radiate it's heat. The lower you try and keep the water temperature to ambient temp the more surface area/active cooling you need to catch what little heat is in the water and get it into the air. This is difficult, but that is the model behind WCing.

Your logic is in the right place, but I want to stress that you can create a large thermal mass when casually overclocking as well as by using hot products. I'm not going to b!tch about this cooler when I said my only gripe is the hype.
 
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To be honest I've not even seen them hyped up that much, but then this is the only techy-place I go to.


Who's been making them out to be the new sliced bread?
 
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To be honest I've not even seen them hyped up that much, but then this is the only techy-place I go to.


Who's been making them out to be the new sliced bread?

Yeah I'd like to know that as well.
 

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Then you have no sense of time and relativity.
 
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Ohhh burn, you're really lacking in argument here because one cooler has as many threads dedicated to it in a period of time than threads devoted to all the products of a company. It's a little popular, wouldn't you say?
 
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I wanted to comment here but the searc result links you posted don't work for me.

DOH!

Are all the threads people saying "OMFG WTF BBQ" or at they people asking if they're any good?


If its the later I'd say that's due to peoples unrealistic expectations of what water can do rather then hype for the Hfidy.

Because a lot of people do think water can handle anything even with such a small rad D:
 
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