just ordered an HD 3870 xt..

[Wile E]

here it is

http://www.sapphiretech.com/us/products/products_overview.php?gpid=198&grp=3

Direct links:

XP: http://www.sapphiretech.com/en/driverfiles/382.zip

Vista 32/64: http://www.sapphiretech.com/en/driverfiles/381.zip

 

[Tatty_Two]

The 3870 is better than the 8800GT when both are OC'd at thier max. Just thought I'd throw that in there!

Review?.....I have not seen that so far, the contrary in fact, not questioning you, just interested to see, especially as there is a 8800GT in these forums touching near to 17000 3D mark 2006 (yes I did say 2006) for a single card!

That 8800GT is clocked I think now above 800Mhz on the core (on water), do the maths up from 600 stock.....who said the 8800GT isnt made for overclocking?

 

[Tatty_Two]

thanks will have read but i have major problems at the moment its for sure.... the only way i can get any ati drivers to install is to do it the old fashioned way and point windows at the xp driver on the cards cd..

device mangler finds some unknown pci device which i dont have which i have disabled.. windows sees the card type correctly and so does gpu-z..

but i dont have any ati control center and cant run any 3Dmarks after 2001 se..

i assume this is because the later 3dmarks need to read my system and cant..

i can run the new rightmark benchmark okay.. a big improvement over my 1900xtx and better than any ati card scores i have seen yet.. up from 101 to 213..

3dmark 2001 se gives 41660.. my games seem to work or at least the ones i have tried..

atitool wont run either..

all weird stuff..

trog

Where where where did you order it from....spill the beans!!

 

[trog100]

OC/UK tatty.. ordered by phone and the shipping department shipped it straight away.. only two or trhee escaped early but one was mine.. he he

they do have plenty thow and should be up on the website tomorrow morning..

trog

ps.. i manually installed the missing bits one at a time from the install cd its all working now..

2005 scores 18018..

2006 scores 11143..

lightmark scores 222..

oh.. the 3dmark problem needs a dll moving from the windows system 32 futuremark folder.. direcpll.dll .. its a known fix and had to be done for the 2900 cards..

 

[DaMulta]

You need to remove the DLL file in system32 for 3dmark.

 

[trt740]

Review?.....I have not seen that so far, the contrary in fact, not questioning you, just interested to see, especially as there is a 8800GT in these forums touching near to 17000 3D mark 2006 (yes I did say 2006) for a single card!

That 8800GT is clocked I think now above 800Mhz on the core (on water), do the maths up from 600 stock.....who said the 8800GT isnt made for overclocking?

my old 8800 gt did this on air for refrence

 

[DrunkenMafia]

^^ Holy shit man!!!

It makes me sweat seeing 1.7v on a quad!!! I guess that is just for benching though...

Very nice 3dmark score but...

 

[trog100]

once u get up to those levels your cpu/system speed plays a big part tatty.. with your system.. intel at 4 gigs and mine amd at 3.3 gigs your 8800gt is getting some help.. i recon the 3870 wouldnt be far behind your score in your system..

it would be way way better than my example so score for score its not a fair comparison grafix card wise.. once u go over 10,000 with a 3mark score its no longer just a grafix card bench.. the cpu and rest of the system play a big part..

once u go over say 8000 3dmark aint a very good grafix card bench.. up to 8000-ish its pretty much all grafix card.. way up where u are its half and half..

when futuremark scores go up to the 10000 level they bin the old one and should come out with a new one.. bit over due in your case i recon.. he he..

very nice score thow by the way.. as long as folks know its half down to your super fast system and not the 8800gt card..

trog

 

[newconroer]

Aye, I didn't see the point of people comparing GPUs in Mark scores, when they have OCd CPUs.

 

[yogurt_21]

thanks will have read but i have major problems at the moment its for sure.... the only way i can get any ati drivers to install is to do it the old fashioned way and point windows at the xp driver on the cards cd..

device mangler finds some unknown pci device which i dont have which i have disabled.. windows sees the card type correctly and so does gpu-z..

but i dont have any ati control center and cant run any 3Dmarks after 2001 se..

i assume this is because the later 3dmarks need to read my system and cant..

i can run the new rightmark benchmark okay.. a big improvement over my 1900xtx and better than any ati card scores i have seen yet.. up from 101 to 213..

3dmark 2001 se gives 41660.. my games seem to work or at least the ones i have tried..

atitool wont run either..

all weird stuff..

trog

gonn have to rename the dll. file in the futuremark folder.

Q: I just bought the ATI Radeon HD 2900XT and 3DMark06 freezes during the splash-screen. What is wrong and how can I fix this?
A: This is a known issue and we have been able to reproduce it in our test lab. The problem lays in an DLL which we use to detect the graphics cards' core and memory speeds. We are working on an update to correct this issue after which all Futuremark benchmarks should run fine with the latest offerings from all IHV's. Until then you can work around this issue either by renaming the "Direcpll.dll" file (found in %WINDIR%\system32\Futuremark\MSC\) to something else, or you can run the benchmark using the -nosysteminfo command line. Please note that if you use the -nosysteminfo command line, you will not be able to publish the result online. Futuremark will inform all its users when the update is available!

source
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=31&threadid=2056077&enterthread=y

all of this series have that issue. lol

 

[TooFast]

THIS ONE WILL BE FASTER THAN THE 8800GT 1000%

http://www.extreme-pc.ca/showproduct.asp?productid=371687&menu1id=12&menu2id=99&menu3id=39

 

[freeboy]

dude, reread the link! CROSSFIRE will outperform stock gt, all gts should be oc'd.. many are seeing core over 800 and 2100 mem speads.. 1900 plus shadeers.. so
YES two in Xfire will be faster.. please read links and reviews closely!

 

[Ripper3]

I don't trust that link, they stated "8800GTs will NEVER be able to do 3-way or 4-way SLi [...]", this isn't true, Nvidia is doing 3-way SLi for the 8800GTX and Ultra FOR NOW, and then is going to introduce it later. Teh cable used for 3-way is one single cable connecting up 3 cards anyhow, so it's possible.

Of course the Crossfire would beat one single 8800GT, if it didn't, ATi would REALLY be in trouble
The 3870 is very close to the 8800GT, but as I and everyone else with a level head, have said, the best thing with the 3870, is the price advantage, and the fact it's actually available for sale, not to mention CrossfireX support and a much lower power consumption over the 2900Pro/XT.

 

[freeboy]

granted the xfire they are selling has some impressive clocked speeds, but as the 8800's are comming out underclocked, wow! I am debating ordering a bunch of the 242.00 ones and reselling ,but by the time they are released the bubble will have burst LOL

 

[trog100]

the bottom line here is that ati are working to a plan.. cheap and cheerful crossfire.. and/or more than one gpu on a card..

three week ago i bought a none crossfire mobo thinking i would never go crossfire.. today i would buy a crossfire board.. in the past cheapo crossfire/sli was always beaten by a single top end card.. at the moment it isnt.. at this time crossfire makes sense..

ati are giving us more options.. two or more cheapos .. one or more of the soon to come x 2s.. i might swap my three week old mobo for a crossfire one.. he he he..

course the other alternative will be to wait for the new x 2 top end card and stick to my no crossfire thinking.. i have never been into over the top systems i aint rich enough.. it comes down to price.. it will probably be cheaper to buy another mobo and cheapo 3870 than the new x 2 ati offering when it gets here.. dunno..

trog

 

[trt740]

once u get up to those levels your cpu/system speed plays a big part tatty.. with your system.. intel at 4 gigs and mine amd at 3.3 gigs your 8800gt is getting some help.. i recon the 3870 wouldnt be far behind your score in your system..

it would be way way better than my example so score for score its not a fair comparison grafix card wise.. once u go over 10,000 with a 3mark score its no longer just a grafix card bench.. the cpu and rest of the system play a big part..

once u go over say 8000 3dmark aint a very good grafix card bench.. up to 8000-ish its pretty much all grafix card.. way up where u are its half and half..

when futuremark scores go up to the 10000 level they bin the old one and should come out with a new one.. bit over due in your case i recon.. he he..

very nice score thow by the way.. as long as folks know its half down to your super fast system and not the 8800gt card..

trog

not really mine 8800 gt set to 3.6ghz and my gt overclocked score 15890 in 3dmarks06 some is cpu but it's alot faster than my old 2900 xt 1gig by over 2000 points clock for clock and my 2900 xt is still the top ati card.

 

[trt740]

not really mine 8800 gt set to 3.6ghz and my gt overclocked score 15890 in 3dmarks06 some is cpu but it's alot faster than my old 2900 xt 1gig by over 2000 points clock for clock and my 2900 xt is still the top ati card.

we will see here is my 2900 xt score 1 gb clocked at 897core /1197 memory, PCIE overclocked 130 mghz and my q6600 at 4.050ghz. If you notice the 2900 xt and the 8800 gt have cpu clocked exactly the same and both are at my max overclocks. The 8800gt kills the 2900 xt in this bench hands down compare them and see for yourself. Ati will win price per performance if you own a crossfire motherboard as I do.

2900 xt with q6600 cpu 4.050ghz


here is the link to all the stats on the benches http://service.futuremark.com/orb/projectdetails.jsp?projectType=14&projectId=3473527 2900 xt cpu 4.050ghz
http://service.futuremark.com/orb/projectdetails.jsp?projectType=14&projectId=3687009 8800 gt cpu 4.050ghz

 

[Tatty_Two]

My 3870 is on it's way.....along with a Gigabyte x38 DQ6 16 x 16 crossfire

 

[trt740]

My 3870 is on it's way.....along with a Gigabyte x38 DQ6 16 x 16 crossfire

back to the light good for you tatty

 

[Frick]

My 3870 is on it's way.....along with a Gigabyte x38 DQ6 16 x 16 crossfire

Get another 3870 soon and then you have a kicka$$ system.

 

[Tatty_Two]

back to the light good for you tatty

I just hope they get the driver development right like they did for the 2900, in the end I was swayed by price, a double slot cooler, lower power and heat and the hope for something great in a couple of driver releases.

 

[Tatty_Two]

Get another 3870 soon and then you have a kicka$$ system.

45nm Yorkfield Quad and another 3870 in the spring maybe would sit very nicely on the x38 DQ6 mefinks

 

[Xolair]

Yeah, I too ordered a HD 3870 from Club 3D... not as beautiful of a card as those of the other manufacturers, but certainly will do.

http://www.jimmspc-store.fi/images/cache/Jimms_CGAX-3872DD.FFFFFF.200x200.jpg

Heh, it'll be a HUGE improvement over my X1650 Pro, for sure.

 

[trt740]

45nm Yorkfield Quad and another 3870 in the spring maybe would sit very nicely on the x38 DQ6 mefinks

I wanted a second one but in crossfire it will be only x4 so i'm not sure if i should get it.

 

[trt740]

Hey guys a 3870 is going for 360.00 shipped right now on ebay because they are sold out unreal.