LCD or plasma?

[micropage7]

i guess what kind of monitor you need, plasma looks better on color, but so far lcd still win on popularity
if you use this for movie or something like that that needs better color and contast and so, you could take plasma
lcd is good too, take lcd if you are on budget

 

[Mussels]

how about something like this:


<46", LED backlit LCD

>46", ho ho ho santas gunna break his back delivering it cause you got plasma.

 

[LAN_deRf_HA]

I'd consider the weight difference negligible due to the shape, you can lean a flat panel on your chest which makes lifting it a non issue... unless you have boobs.

 

[Solaris17]

i have a 50" plasma samsung. I love the thing. image retention is good and any I get is easily fixed. I love how sharp colors are and everything is ncie and vivid without being to smudged. It didnt kick the shit out of the LCD's around the same price range (but it was a bit better imo). I found it to be a better display.

Though honestly this argument probably wont stop. I think of it like this. if you want something bigger then 40" and your already blowing close to a grand a few watts here or their isnt going to matter much to you. go to a store look at a few models (remember stores tune color etc to the huge bright room their in) adjust them to their default settings compair and see what looks nicer to you and buy it.

 

[Bundy]

I used to have a plasma, now have LCD. Plasma did better movies (but only if the lights were out), the new LCD is much better overall because we don't have the light out and the TV is often used in the daytime.

 

[heky]

Why not go for a 37" instead of 42" and buy a led lcd. Way beter contrast, blacks,...And way less power consumption than a plasma. I am also in the market for a HDTV, and i think i am gonna go for the philips led lcd 37pfl7605 with ambilight. No plasma gets close to the viewing pleasure of this baby for the same money.

 

[n-ster]

Typically, a 42" Plasma consumes AT LEAST 150W more, a bit more than double that of LCD.

Lets keep it simple, 150W vs 300W. IDK how much you will use you TV, if you use it alot, and till its death, we can account for 60 000 hours of use
9 000 KW vs 18 000 KW... at ~11cents per KWh since Seattle energy is cheap I'm guessing?
990$ vs 1980$ = ~1000$ difference in the long run


Now lets look at 3 years time, at 4 hours, 6 hours and 8 hours per day (only the diff this time)
~1100 days so 4400 hrs, 6600 hrs and 8800 hrs
0.150 KW difference --> 660 KWH, 990KWH, 1320KWH at 11c again
72.60$, 108.90$ and 145.20$



Just to give an idea of energy costs, though I'm sure energy prices WILL climb

 

[Triprift]

i have a 50" plasma samsung. I love the thing. image retention is good and any I get is easily fixed. I love how sharp colors are and everything is ncie and vivid without being to smudged. It didnt kick the shit out of the LCD's around the same price range (but it was a bit better imo). I found it to be a better display.

Though honestly this argument probably wont stop. I think of it like this. if you want something bigger then 40" and your already blowing close to a grand a few watts here or their isnt going to matter much to you. go to a store look at a few models (remember stores tune color etc to the huge bright room their in) adjust them to their default settings compair and see what looks nicer to you and buy it.

Well put i have both Plasma and lcd screens and personally i like the Plasma better as it seems to have more dynamic colours and better brightness levels. You do get some burn in but normally with models these days they fade very quickly. Like Sol said just check out a few models and make your mind.

 

[BlackMagic]

Burn in?? Where? When? What?

That's old school thinking regarding burn in issues with decent plasmas.
I have had my Samsung 58 inch plasma for a couple of YEARS now and have no burn in at all.
It's an FPT-5884 model and is the sweetest tv I have ever owned.
I also just recently bought a Sony LCD 32 inch for a bedroom. Nice machine, very good color for an LCD, I am happy with it and everyone that sees it loves it UNTIL they see my plasma.
Then the HOLY S(*&^ talk starts. Wow is a word often used by people I have over.
And I stand back and take a good look myself and say to myself, ya' know, these people are right, what a fantastic hdtv the plasma is. There is no comparison.
And this thing about lighting...some people here said the plasma only looks good in a dark room.
To them I say NOT REALLY, depends.
I can change the mood lighting from light to dark in my family room and this tv still looks astonishing. But I did have the thing professionally calibrated when I bought it. Cost was $350.00 and I believe it was worth it.
The technician did calibrate it for the lightest conditions of the room. He told be that would be the worse case for the tv and as it got darker in the room it would look even better. And he was right on.
Now I admit the service was expensive but you have to see the expensive equipment he brought with him. The stuff he brought over probably cost more than a new Ferrari or Bugatti. And he spent a solid hour with me, tuning to my familys liking (and his...lol).

Movies and HD channels are great, but so is regular signal transmission. It all looks good.
1080p Bluerays are crazy great. But the coolest thing I tell you about is games. I use a PS3 and I play Call of Duty Black Ops. Awesome, just flat out awesome. I also play this game on the pc. Of course it looks good on the pc but it looks super on the plasma as well.
Oh yea, one more thing. My 2 sons both had 50 inch LCDS and they went out and bought plasmas after I got mine. One bought Samsung and the other bought LG as he was a bit short on money at the time. They are both happy campers now.
Well guys, do as you will, just sharing a personal experience.

 

[nailzer]

LCD.

Plasmas still burn in.

My 3 year old 50" Panasonic plasma never has.

 

[Triprift]

I see it very minorly and usually fades after less than a minute.

Ive had my Plasma for a few years now so plasma tec may be better now.

 

[qubit]

Plasma, for sure. You get all the CRT advantages of no motion smear, wide viewing angles (no funny colours, ya know what I mean) and deep colours with none of the downsides. Oh and it's flat.

If you do connect your PC to it, the picture will look awesome in a way that LCD never can.

I wish they could make the damn things small enough for desktop monitors.

 

[Nitro-Max]

Lsd

 

[qubit]

Lsd

LSD? Are you sure? Think about it.

 

[wahdangun]

plasma hands down, its have better image quality than LCD and better black level

 

[n-ster]

LSD? Are you sure? Think about it.

I think he did it on purpose

 

[qubit]

I think he did it on purpose

Yeah, I looked at his sig after I posted it and figured it likely was on purpose, lol.

 

[Nitro-Max]

Just a little mid afternoon humor guys Im interested in this thread too as im looking to buy a new tv also and im undecided looking at them in the shops the plasma was cheaper and seemed to have a better quality picture to me. But i dont really know much about the technology or the problems. Im still happy with my old sony wega tbh but the misses wants a bigger screen. Only thing is i have a 3 year old thats mentally dissabled and he loves to bash the screen alot so i have no choice but to wall mount.

P.S. Dont do lsd lol or any drugs for that matter!

 

[qubit]

Just a little mid afternoon humor guys Im interested in this thread too as im looking to buy a new tv also and im undecided looking at them in the shops the plasma was cheaper and seemed to have a better quality picture to me. But i dont really know much about the technology or the problems. Im still happy with my old sony wega tbh but the misses wants a bigger screen. Only thing is i have a 3 year old thats mentally dissabled and he loves to bash the screen alot so i have no choice but to wall mount.

P.S. Dont do lsd lol or any drugs for that matter!

Hey, sorry to hear about your son, dude. You can wall mount both types of TVs just the same and keep them out of harm's reach.

This forum probably doesn't have the best expertise to advise you on what type to buy (but see my clear preference for plasma earlier on and why! lol).

I did a quick google for lcd v plasma which came up with lots of useful hits. A good one of those is from avreview.co.uk that compared the two technologies.

In the end though, I think you should have a look at both kinds of sets in the shop, before committing to a technology. In particular, a couple of years ago, I saw a large Samsung LCD TV (60" I think) that had some seriously good motion smoothing technology: the shop was playing Ice Age and the TV did two awesome things:

- Removed the 25fps judder (half TV frame rate transmission) inherent in the film

- Zero motion blur!

It basically resulted in a smooth-as-silk animation and picture quality.

I don't know the model number, but they must have even better TVs now. Check this tech out before you decide on anything

EDIT: I've just realised that the AV Review comparison is 5 years old and both technologies have improved since then, so it won't be as useful.

 

[Nitro-Max]

Thanks for that

Do we know what sort of lifespan these things have? say in a heavy use situation? I dont watch much tv myself but my mrs and kids do.

I know a crt can last 10 years or more somtimes. I doubt you'd get that from a lcd or plasma,

 

[Robert-The-Rambler]

Plasma is so much better with motion

The viewing angle actually is closer to what LCD makers seem to lie about all the time. Find me an LCD that actually has a 178 degree viewing angle. Everything looks better on Plasma and the glare thing is overrated as a flaw. With the S2 Series 50" Panasonic I don't find the glare distracting. What do I find much more distracting? Light bleed and panel non uniformity on LCDs should be considered a defect. They should not have left the factory because depending on the LCD some types of viewing material in a dark room are unwatchable.(I refer to it as blotch vision) I'm tired of dealing with rogue whiteness that aint supposed to be there and with Plasma you have none of that.

LCDs blur a lot. If you have not had experience with Plasma it will be harder to see. Once your eyes adjust to plasma and how well it moves it will be hard to unsee the blur when watching sports or any non film based content that contains its own judder from frame rate and film capture issues.

In short if you want the best movie experience with the best color accuracy, best viewing angles, best native real not bullshit contrast ratio, instant pixel response time, and an insanely bright and actually watchable image then you get a Plasma for any adult who will use it properly.

Most adults should be able to manage gaming on a Plasma without issue but if you have kids and they might be apt to leave the paused game and disappear for long periods of time or otherwise destroy your new toy then LCD is better for the family room but for the MAN CAVE Plasma is second to none!!!!!!!

If you do go the Plasma route then try to get one with 24p real cinema as it has frame multiplier that will smooth film content a bit. It will cost a bit more. Right now the cheapest 1080p model is from LG and that is going for $749.

P.S Let me just clarify further that we are talking here about movie and games here. For the overall use as a PC monitor we are stuck with LCD tech for now. I wouldn't plan on reading TPU reviews or forums on your new Plasma. Its designed for things in motion. Why waste it for such a mundane task? Having the TPU logo burned into your screen might be cool but still in the long run not too good.

 

[mdsx1950]

Go for the LCD. It will be be more value for the money.

 

[Robert-The-Rambler]

What Plasma do you have?

around here LCD is considerd shit tons better than plasma.



easily fixable or not, the image retention still sucks.

LCD's are lighter, less power hungry, less heat, and quite often look better... brighter is not better, imo and thats all plasmas seem to do better is light up the room.

Or did have?

 

[theonedub]

Frys has an LG LED LCD for $689, which is not too far out your budget

 

[n-ster]

For heavy use, LCD for sure, less heat, less energy, also easier to wall mount, no loss of brightness etc etc

OMFG LED THAT CHEAP... That is perfect for you too