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  1. Snipermonkey2

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    So after almost two years with out a desktop I think it's time to build another one. My problem I'm having right now is that I feel that I've been gone from it too long and don't really know what I should be looking at for parts. My biggest problem is budget, I have a max set at $700 though I'd rather not even spend that. I still have my hd's from my other rig which were used for under a year and a PSU that saw maybe 6 months of use which is a PC Power and Cooling Silencer 750watt
    My main goal is to build a small computer with enough power to handle a range of tasks from some relaxed gaming (doesn't need to run every game on high-settings) and some lite 3d design with AutoDesk Inventor or Solidworks. Any input would help.


    Edit: "Small Computer" - Micro-ATX / Micro-ITX
     
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    An AMD APU (A8-3870K) and Mobo along with a decent GPU will fit your budget and then some.

    The Intel guys will suggest otherwise but either platform will be a good upgrade within your budget.
     
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    Decent GPU..... Yeah the last video card I bought was a 8800GT I don't even know what is good anymore.
     
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    A AMD HD 6870 or an NVidia 560 Ti are both very good lower budget cards. Great for gaming if you're looking for good performance at a reasonable price ;)
     
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    That depends on what you mean by "relaxed gaming". What games are you looking to play? While High is optional, what kinda FPS are you expecting out of say medium settings?

    And with the size restrictions I would also put an AMD APU system as a front runner. If your gaming is mostly non-DX11 titles on medium, I would say pair it with a 6670 and using the CrossfireX with the APU to get good performance. If you do go Intel, I would say stick with a CPU around the 65W range like an i3-2120 as I expect your case to be rather small, so you want to avoid the need to large coolers or small coolers that make a shit load of noise.

    Now if you are really trying to squeeze a relatively large amount of graphical power in a small space, I don't think a 6670 has a low profile version, so you may want to go with one of the other GPU's you can use CrossfireX with on an AMD APU. If you need more CPU horsepower, then go with Intel.
     
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    Noise is not an issue really in my mind. Games well I have Skyrim for my xbox but I think i'm going to rebuy it for pc and if Diablo 3 ever comes out this year i'll probably buy that.
     
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    If you go AMD non APU- try a 9 series board (970 or 990X) and a 960T rather than the 760G and FX-4100... the rest of the parts are ok but if you're going to try Skyrim on PC you're going to need spend some more on a video card.

    I'll try to spec out an AMD 9 series and an APU system for you shortly;)

    Check these out:

    With 3870K APU 539.96
    Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, L...
    G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 S...
    Fractal Design Arc Mini Black High Performance PC ...
    SAPPHIRE 100314-3L Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR...

    With 960T and AM3+ Board 539.95
    ASUS M5A88-M AM3+ AMD 880G HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0...
    AMD Phenom II X4 960T Zosma 3.0GHz Socket AM3 95W ...
    CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM...
    Fractal Design Arc Mini Black High Performance PC ...
    SAPPHIRE 100314-3L Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR...

    These combos include a nice Fractal Design case Micro ATX boards and reuse your PSU, HDDs, and Win7 x64 as you indicated on your 1st post.

    Please double check the math (did it quick)... suprised these were only $0.01 apart

    Either combo will be a very good upgrade for your current system and leaves a little room for getting a better GPU or saving a couple of $$$
     
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    I checked out the specs on the AMD APU (A8-3870K) and it seems like a great proc for the price.
     
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    Forgot one item- a better CPU cooler is recommended as well

    Here's a good performer at a good price ($29.99)

    COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatp...

    The self contained water coolers will also fit in the Fractal case if you want to spent the extra $$$ on one.
     
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    Samsung drive $16.99
    NZXT Source 210 $39.99
    ECS NGTX560-1GPI-F1 GeForce GTX 560 $179.99
    Logitech Wireless Combo $29.99
    Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 8gb $49.99
    BIOSTAR TH67B LGA 1155 Intel H67 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s Micro ATX Intel Motherboard $79.99
    Intel Core i5-2500 Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz $209.99

    Total $606.93

    Also I'm going to credit Solaris17 with making me this list, he also went on to explain in depth to me the draw backs of the AMD line being recommend (not that those are not good choices in their own right but price vs performance is too close here)
     
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    The recommendation is great but that motherboard sucks IMO. Absolutely no upgrade path at all.
    For an extra $20 I would go with this version of Motherboard:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138298
     
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    Upgrade path as in.........
     
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    I gave you a link in my above post which I've edited. Also I though that mobo recommended to you had 2 DIMM slots, I was wrong, it has 4 DDR3 DIMM slots, my bad :D
    The only difference I see is the one I recommend is a full ATX mobo with more PCIe/PCI slots.
     
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    If it was a Micro-ATX sure I'd probably be willing to spring for anther $20. I have a limited space to work with since I live in the bricks (barracks).
     
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    O.K. either way it's going to be a great setup :)
     
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    Solaris provided you with a very good setup :toast:

    A couple of comments:
    - The Source 210 is nice (I have one) but...
    - It's not small (std mid-tower) and quality is good but could be better
    - the 210 Elite adds on tool-less bays and an extra 140 mm fan
    - case is great to build in once will give you problems if you dig into often
    - Add this fan control (below) and pickup a 4 pack of cheap 120mm fans (Rosewill or Coolermaster $10-20 for 4 pack)

    NZXT Sentry Mesh Fan Controller w/ Five 30 watts C...

    I also bought this fan controller- can tie in all of the fans this case will fit and is nice and tidy.

    I can't make any Intel recommendations (AMD guy) so I'm glad you made your decision with info from both sides.

    Good luck with your build- post back with pics :toast:
     
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    Another case I am looking at shooting off your recommended case idea.

    Fractal Design Core 1000 Micro ATX Computer Case w...
     
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    Seems to be starting out to be great ram
    SAMSUNG 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600...

    Thread were the action is
    http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?t=159320
     
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    That Fractal is all lower budget- if your squeezed for size and $$$ it will work but do a search and read a few reviews on it 1st so you know what you're getting.

    Another Option:

    NZXT Vulcan (Micro ATX- portable w/handle) a little cheaper than the Fractal I recommended
    NZXT Crafted Series Vulcan Black Steel / Plastic G...
     
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    That case looks badass I might have to think about that one.
     
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    That one already has a built in fan control and some tool-less features so your getting some of the features of the 210 Elite with a Sentry Mesh fan controller in a smaller package for a little less money.... and free shipping :toast:
     
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    I want to order all this stuff but I'm still unsure on a case.

    Edit: I really want a HTPC case that fits all that stuff.
     
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