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  1. goodguys9 New Member

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    I want a low end gaming computer that will last me just this year or so until I buy a much stronger one. I only want to play low end games on this one too, like League of Legends and similar games. This is the best build I could get, cheap and would run what I want. I have absolutely no experience in this though. Do you have suggestions? Will this build work? Will it do what I want? Is there a better/cheaper build to do what I want? Thanks!

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($109.99 @ NCIX US)
    Motherboard: Asus M5A97 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($88.88 @ NCIX US)
    Memory: Crucial 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($20.99 @ Amazon)
    Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($100.98 @ Newegg)
    Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 550 Ti 1GB Video Card ($122.61 @ NCIX US)
    Case: Cooler Master Elite 430 ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: Cooler Master 460W ATX12V Power Supply ($21.98 @ Newegg)
    Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    Total: $518.41
    (Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-05-08 21:56 EDT-0400)
     
  2. eidairaman1

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    why not save the money then instead of waste it because you will have diminishing returns on it.

    If you were to build a machine id get the best money could buy now which would allow for CPU/Ram/Videocard Upgrades

    also what Region do you live in
     
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    I don't want to save it because I REALLY want to play games now. My current computer is 10 years old. It can't play flash games! So yeah, I want at least a low end one now, and I have a pretty nice job and no real expenses so might as well. :p

    As for my region, I live in Canada.
     
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    ok the money you said thats in CAD right?
     
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    No, that was american actually, woops. CAD is 16 cents more ($518.57). The conversion rate is essentially on par atm. :p
     
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    Now Do you overclock at all?
     
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    Get an i3 sandy bridge system. You can get an i3 2100 for about $80-$100 depending on where you are and its better for gaming than a Phenom 2.
     
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    he will be selling the system shortly and the Phenom 2 is power enough for gaming.
     
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    Isn't this one of the cases where a system be built around an AMD APU and just have a video card thrown in later when extra funds become available becomes a pretty viable alternative? Especially since the A8-3870K is just a tiny bit more expensive than that Phenom, avoids the need of a video card if the current gaming goal is low end and provides the same CPU performance?

    APU:
    AMD A8-3870K Unlocked Llano 3.0GHz Socket FM1 100W...
     
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    the phenom is a waste of cash. get the sandybridge.
     
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    I would take a 6850 over a 550ti, that 550ti is pretty weak and for that price you could get better (the 6850 has been on sale recently for the same price).
     
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    No, I don't plan to because I don't know how. I could learn, but I assume you're asking because if I am I would need a CPU cooler. Since I'm going for price I don't want to get anything more expensive.

    An intel CPU wouldn't be compatible with my current build (I'm using a site to put the build together and when i went to change it/check it out, it said it wasn't compatible).

    From the reading I've done the 550ti is actually a slightly better option, and the 6850 is slightly more expensive. Why do you say the 6850 is better?
     
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    I'd be scouring the buy/sell/trade forum, if I were you.
     
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    Use newegg.ca

    I3-2100/2120 with a Cheap H61 board and 2x2GB DDR3 1333mhz (around 200$ or so) then find a used 5770/5830/GTX 460 (all can be had under 100$ in some instances) Then pickup that Corsair 430W you listed in your OP

    I say you may have around 350$-400$ in a stout build. I have a 2120 as a cruncher and it is quite powerful and beats AMD quads in gaming.
     
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    I can't use newegg , they only ship to the U.S. Also, you didn't include the HDD in your price (which would bump it another $100), The Case price (another $50) and an optical drive. I think your system would be more expensive than my current build in the end. Also, I've heard that generally going too cheap with the motherboard is a bad idea.

    Could you maybe explain the build a bit better/link to parts? I might just not be understanding what you mean.

    EDIT: Woop, didn't realize there was a newegg.ca Sorry. :p
     
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    2nd'd (is that a word?) It even beats out my old 655k @ 3.8Ghz by about a 15% margin, with 460 SLI.

    One moment, will do a build.

    Ram $23 AMIR
    http://ncix.com/products/?sku=40072&vpn=TW3X4G1333C9A&manufacture=Corsair
    CPU
    http://ncix.com/products/?sku=59192&vpn=BX80623I32120&manufacture=Intel
    Board
    http://ncix.com/products/?sku=66933&vpn=GA-H61M-DS2&manufacture=Gigabyte&promoid=1360
    http://img.techpowerup.org/120509/Capture068.jpg $209 AMIR

    HDD
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185
    GPU
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121633
    http://img.techpowerup.org/120509/Capture069.jpg $219

    Case & PSU
    http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6430030&CatId=1509

    Comes out to be about $475 & find an optical drive of your choice. Also, needed to add, you can't go by the pricing on PCPartPicker for your locale as they assume you are building in the States, which makes their prices null.

    So as you can see if you look around and do some shopping you got a board that's ALOT better a CPU that can handle multi gpu. Also you may not have to do it AS A TEMPORARY SOLUTION!
     
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    Use i3 2100 or 2120, then you don't need to upgrade for the next 3-4 years if we are still playing console ports. :)

    Also, get 2x2gb ram, dual channel should be noticeably better.
     
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    This may help

    Total is actually 480$ with MIR

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    Brandon, look at my build above. It has twice the board you have in yours.

    EDIT:
    DUH! I need to read. It's ADD for $199 not a COMBO for $199. In that case you got a better build, B. :eek:
     
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    There is no PSU with that case and using two companys for the build my increase shipping prices?

    Also how does the 7750 hold up to other GPUs? also the 2120 you posted is 20$ more than mine
     
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    Newegg.ca will ship up here, no problem, but you'll get dinged for taxes and duty when the stuff crosses the border.

    Depending on what games you plan to play, an APU will be faster then that Phenom II 965. Most notibly in Codemasters titles, where the APUs are about 25% faster, thanks to the better memory bandwidth they offer.

    You say you got a good job, and some money, don't waste time on the cheap-ass rig, just build a good one. ;) Budget $1500, and you'll get a killer rig that will last for several years, rather than getting one that is almost obsolete already.
     
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    I really need to learn how to read today. Also, I thought I picked a 7770 .... :ohwell:

    EDIT:

    I meant to link this one
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150598

    As you can also see, 430W may even be doable for 7770 crossfire.
    http://www.legitreviews.com/images/reviews/1854/power-consumption.jpg
     
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    Where have you read the 550ti is better than the 6850? Just looking at the TPU Review the 500ti is 20% slower than the 6850 overall.
     
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    Yeah GPU wise you'd be better of with a 6850 or 7770. In every review I've read the 6850 and 7770 are faster than the 550t by 10-25% in all but a couple of Nvidia branded titles.
    And a Phenom II is fine, but get an AM3+ mobo for future CPU upgrades.
     
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