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Hi TPU-M

Today I have build a new system, but i got some issue with performance
when i play games I got low FPS ! O_O , even my old system was much better

I have installed all driver from CD and graphic card by AMD auto detect card

new system
CPU: FX6300
MB: ASUS M5A78L-M LX3
GPU: HD4870
RAM: 8GB 1333
PSU: CM-650watt

old system
CPU: E8400
MB: gigabyte p43-es3g
GPU: GTX260
RAM: 8GB 1333
PSU: HEC 550watt



This is the comparison between my new and old system:

BF3 ( Ultra setting 1080p -- No AA )
new system: max =38 Avg=24 Min=18
old system: max =50 Avg=26 Min= 23


skyrim legendary edition ( Ultra setting 1080p )
new system: max =55 Avg=28 Min=17
old system: max =60+ Avg=46 Min= 35









What's going on? :wtf: I feel something wrong here!

Thanks you very much.
 

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well you pretty much side graded as far as I'm concerned.

And the Intel chip is better than AMD in Skyrim. That has always been the case. Even if its a Core 2 duo, it has better single thread performance then the and chip, and Skyrim is a single threaded came. Prefers high speed(ghz) rather then cores, among other stuff.
 
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Hi TPU-M

Today I have build a new system, but i got some issue with performance
when i play games I got low FPS ! O_O , even my old system was much better

I have installed all driver from CD and graphic card by AMD auto detect card

new system
CPU: FX6300
MB: ASUS M5A78L-M LX3
GPU: HD4870
RAM: 8GB 1333
PSU: CM-650watt

old system
CPU: E8400
MB: gigabyte p43-es3g
GPU: GTX260
RAM: 8GB 1333
PSU: HEC 550watt



This is the comparison between my new and old system:

BF3 ( Ultra setting 1080p -- No AA )
new system: max =38 Avg=24 Min=18
old system: max =50 Avg=26 Min= 23


skyrim legendary edition ( Ultra setting 1080p )
new system: max =55 Avg=28 Min=17
old system: max =60+ Avg=46 Min= 35









What's going on? :wtf: I feel something wrong here!

Thanks you very much.
You probably need the last driver version (Catalyst 13.9) to get the better performance in those games as the HD 4870 is pretty old and the CD driver is probably pretty dated.

Also some of those numbers are hard to believe you were getting as I gamed on a GTX 460 SE overclocked in BF3 and I could not deliver that type of performance on Ultra. Are you sure those number are what you got on the GTX 260 machine?
 
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Those video cards are basically the same performance wise and will bottleneck the FX in everything
 
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well you pretty much side graded as far as I'm concerned.

And the Intel chip is better than AMD in Skyrim. That has always been the case. Even if its a Core 2 duo, it has better single thread performance then the and chip, and Skyrim is a single threaded came. Prefers high speed(ghz) rather then cores, among other stuff.

but i am talking about FX6300 , I mean come on! 6 core :wtf:


You probably need the last driver version (Catalyst 13.9) to get the better performance in those games as the HD 4870 is pretty old and the CD driver is probably pretty dated.

Also some of those numbers are hard to believe you were getting as I gamed on a GTX 460 SE overclocked in BF3 and I could not deliver that type of performance on Ultra. Are you sure those number are what you got on the GTX 260 machine?

yep, AMD auto detect card download Catalyst 13.9, I have also tried old driver but i got no big difference


My core2 E8400 was supper great in gaming check this video: BF3 Ultra >> E8400 + GTX260
skyrim legendary edition Ultra
as i know HD4870 little bit better than GTX260. At first time I was thought I will get more FPS with 6core. shame i cant even upload video to show some benchmark.

Those video cards are basically the same performance wise and will bottleneck the FX in everything
I know there will be such limitation but with E8400 i got moreFPS as well as my E7600
anyway i will try another GPU to see how much FPS can get ( R9 280 )

BTW do you think motherboard can make some limitation since it is M-ATX ?
 

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Uh.. @MxPhenom 216 said that Skyrim is a single-threaded game which means it won't get anything extra from having 6 cores over two cores. Clockspeed might be higher but power-per-core is a lot lower.

Also your GPUs are kinda weak and old. Getting a newer GPU will help quite a bit.

Also size of motherboard makes no difference.
 
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Overclock that CPU & get a better GPU :slap:

Those GPU's are ancient :roll:
 

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but i am talking about FX6300 , I mean come on! 6 core :wtf:

Not going to matter in the slightest with games that are not optimized for multiple threads, LIKE Skyrim like I already said. AMD chips are not what you want if you play those types of games.
 
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Heres somewhat of a decent performance comparison between the two chips that I found. Seemed decent enough to give an idea at least of what to expect.

http://anandtech.com/bench/product/699?vs=56

I don't really think the CPU is the problem here but it maybe the drivers are dated for that video card as its been on legacy at this point and may not have proper optimizations. You may just want to spend like 100-150 bucks and get something like an R9 270 or GTX 750ti (Something in that range of cards) as that would probably bring your gaming experience way up.
 

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Id be interested to see if he kept the e8400 in the system and 4870 what kind of performance he gets. Because if its more then with the FX6300, then I think we know the culprit, or part of it. I dont think there are very many new AMD drivers that play nicely with the old cards, but Im not sure on that one.

Id definitely recommend using all NEW drivers, not the ones off the disk. Also make sure you have the patch for Windows that boosts FX chip performance. Id try overclocking the FX chip too, that'll help.
 

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You probably need the last driver version (Catalyst 13.9) to get the better performance in those games as the HD 4870 is pretty old and the CD driver is probably pretty dated.

Also some of those numbers are hard to believe you were getting as I gamed on a GTX 460 SE overclocked in BF3 and I could not deliver that type of performance on Ultra. Are you sure those number are what you got on the GTX 260 machine?


the rest of the specs isnt a side grade, however that GPU is considered a dinosaur
 

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Actually, it just dawned on me, the board you are using only has a 4 pin for CPU power, so chances of getting any sort of stable overclock out of it is not very likely with that chip that consumes a lot of power already.
 

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Actually, it just dawned on me, the board you are using only has a 4 pin for CPU power, so chances of getting any sort of stable overclock out of it is not very likely with that chip that consumes a lot of power already.

a board with 4 phases can oc a 8350, just not as far as an 8-12 Phase board
 
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yeah I am still have E8400 and i got good performance
also with AMD phenom 9750 I have no problem,

my last bench

Crysis2 (Harcore Setting 1080p )
FX6300 + HD4870 : max=45 Avg=22 Min=14
phenom 9750 + GTX275 : max=60 Avg=32 Min=26

Anyway I will take off that GPU and i will test R9 280
I will check them right now.
 

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Get the latest drivers for that motherboard.
 
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Actually, it just dawned on me, the board you are using only has a 4 pin for CPU power, so chances of getting any sort of stable overclock out of it is not very likely with that chip that consumes a lot of power already.

when CPU was arrived it was run at 4.2 ( unlocked ) so I locked to 3.5GHz because temp was rise too much
 

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when CPU was arrived it was run at 4.2 ( unlocked ) so I locked to 3.5GHz because temp was rise too much

Well the chip turbos/boosts to 4.1ghz, which is normal. you effectively disabled the boost.
 
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Hi TPU-M

Today I have build a new system, but i got some issue with performance
when i play games I got low FPS ! O_O , even my old system was much better

I have installed all driver from CD and graphic card by AMD auto detect card

new system
CPU: FX6300
MB: ASUS M5A78L-M LX3
GPU: HD4870
RAM: 8GB 1333
PSU: CM-650watt

old system
CPU: E8400
MB: gigabyte p43-es3g
GPU: GTX260
RAM: 8GB 1333
PSU: HEC 550watt



This is the comparison between my new and old system:

BF3 ( Ultra setting 1080p -- No AA )
new system: max =38 Avg=24 Min=18
old system: max =50 Avg=26 Min= 23


skyrim legendary edition ( Ultra setting 1080p )
new system: max =55 Avg=28 Min=17
old system: max =60+ Avg=46 Min= 35




What's going on? :wtf: I feel something wrong here!

Thanks you very much.


The 4870 is a very old video card and isn't powerful enough for today's games and doesn't complement a FX6300 well.

Now saying that your rate shouldn't have decreased. Did you reinstall the operating system after the upgrade? Also the drivers on the disc are old, you need to go on AMD's website for the latest drivers.


well you pretty much side graded as far as I'm concerned.

And the Intel chip is better than AMD in Skyrim. That has always been the case. Even if its a Core 2 duo, it has better single thread performance then the and chip, and Skyrim is a single threaded came. Prefers high speed(ghz) rather then cores, among other stuff.

It wasn't a side grade. This computer is acting faulty. He shouldn't be getting half the frame rate after the upgrade. Core 2 Duo Wolfdale's single threaded performance was about the same as the Phenom II. The Piledrivers FX single threaded performance would be faster than both. In worst case scenario it should perform marginally the same.
 
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ok the CPU factory runs at 3500 and turbo cores up to 4100, with proper cooling you should be able to run that CPU at 4100 across all 6 cores, I have all 8 of mine clocked to 4200.

http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Bulldozer/AMD-FX-Series FX-6300.html

The culprit is the GPU. The 4870 is a very old video card and isn't powerful enough for today's games and doesn't complement a FX6300 well.

Now saying that your rate shouldn't have decreased. Did you reinstall the operating system after the upgrade? Also the drivers on the disc are old, you need to go on AMD's website for the latest drivers.

He disabled turbocore altogether because he says it gets too hot, which actually the factory cooler can handle it, just all be it too noisy.
 

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The 4870 is a very old video card and isn't powerful enough for today's games and doesn't complement a FX6300 well.

Now saying that your rate shouldn't have decreased. Did you reinstall the operating system after the upgrade? Also the drivers on the disc are old, you need to go on AMD's website for the latest drivers.




It wasn't a side grade. This computer is acting faulty. He shouldn't be getting half the frame rate.

In single threaded apps, E8400 is still better no matter how you look at it. the 260 to a 4870 is a sidegrade if I have ever seen one. Especially if its a Core 216 GTX260.

But yes id agree something is wrong, and its likely more on the software side of things.
 
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In single threaded apps, E8400 is still better no matter how you look at it. the 260 to a 4870 is a sidegrade if I have ever seen one. Especially if its a Core 216 GTX260.

But yes id agree something is wrong, and its likely more on the software side of things.

Not convinced of that. The Phenom II X2 could easily keep up with the 84xxx, likewise the Phenom II X4 could keep up with the Q9xxx. I find it hard to believe a second generation FX couldn't.

The Bulldozer FX was only marginally slower than the Phenom II in single threaded performance, the Piledriver FX with added 15-25% increase in performance would leap frog both the Phenom II and Core 2 series.
 
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yeah I am still have E8400 and i got good performance
also with AMD phenom 9750 I have no problem,

my last bench

Crysis2 (Harcore Setting 1080p )
FX6300 + HD4870 : max=45 Avg=22 Min=14
phenom 9750 + GTX275 : max=60 Avg=32 Min=26

Anyway I will take off that GPU and i will test R9 280
I will check them right now.

Wait wait, the GTX275 is a much faster card than the ATI 4870. They shouldn't be compared.

The GTX 275 is faster than a ATI 4870 X2. Put the GTX in your FX 6300 rig.

Also there is no way a AMD phenom I 9750 Agena could outperform a Piledriver FX without there being something seriously wrong.
 

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Benchmark Scores I dont have time for that.
the fx6300 is not a true 6 core CPU just wanna dispell that real quick.

also did you reformat?
 

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Not convinced of that. The Phenom II X2 could easily keep up with the 84xxx, likewise the Phenom II X4 could keep up with the Q9xxx. I find it hard to believe a second generation FX couldn't.

The Bulldozer FX was only marginally slower than the Phenom II in single threaded performance, the Piledriver FX with added 15-25% increase in performance would leap frog both the Phenom II and Core 2 series.

Phenom II could barely match Q9xxx (maybe your are thinking of the Q6xxx). And Bulldozer FX chips were barely faster then Phenom II, and slower in a lot of single threaded apps.

Not to mention the power consumption to performance ratio on Bulldozer and even Piledriver is pretty bad. Not that many people seem to care about that, but..
 
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