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Also note that the memory speeds shown in this demo are at 375x2 or 750mhz 3-3-3-9. There are kits out there today that do over 600x2 at 5-5-5-15, which would give a much better score. SuperPI 1m is rather finnicky about ram timings and speed.

This was built as a ground up, server style CPU. The power settings, independant multiplier, independant voltage, fully interconnected cores, etc. AMD wanted to counter intels greatest problem with current dual die stratagy, intercore latency and scaling. Given the HT speed, and the design of the core, there should be almost a 100% increase in processing power for every core available. With intels quads its around 100% going from single to dual, then about 80% or so iirc from dual to triple and triple to quad. This is due to the cores of one die having to use the FSB to access the other. The latency from that process, and the way windows handles multiple cpus (threads constantly switch which core they are on to dynamically load balance), creates a problem for intel. AMD may not have the architecture, but they do have a plan.
 
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Also note that the memory speeds shown in this demo are at 375x2 or 750mhz 3-3-3-9. There are kits out there today that do over 600x2 at 5-5-5-15, which would give a much better score. SuperPI 1m is rather finnicky about ram timings and speed.

This was built as a ground up, server style CPU. The power settings, independant multiplier, independant voltage, fully interconnected cores, etc. AMD wanted to counter intels greatest problem with current dual die stratagy, intercore latency and scaling. Given the HT speed, and the design of the core, there should be almost a 100% increase in processing power for every core available. With intels quads its around 100% going from single to dual, then about 80% or so iirc from dual to triple and triple to quad. This is due to the cores of one die having to use the FSB to access the other. The latency from that process, and the way windows handles multiple cpus (threads constantly switch which core they are on to dynamically load balance), creates a problem for intel. AMD may not have the architecture, but they do have a plan.

deja vu of good old Athlon X2 times?
didnt AMD's Athlon X2's beat Intel first Dual Core's :D
 

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Sarcasm actually is quite an adult kind of humor, how many sarcastic infants do you know? If you read my post you get my point, the news clearly suggests that performance should improve due to the extra cores(see quoted part), Jimmy seems to think it influences the score as well. Fact is SuperPI is single threaded, The Phenom X4 is built from the ground up as quad core CPU, it's a waste of time to run this test. Sure single core performance seems bad here, it might scale very well though, that's the thing they need to test. It's like testing a Ferrari in the hills or a bulldozer on a racetrack.

Plus, if besides my post you'd read my profile you'd know my age as well.

does pt count as a sarcastic (and physco) infant? :roll:
 
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