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Most Efficient Water Cooling Kit

Discussion in 'Overclocking & Cooling' started by T4C Fantasy, May 11, 2012.

  1. T4C Fantasy

    T4C Fantasy CPU & GPU DB Maintainer

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    I was wondering from an enthusiast's stand point which water cooling kit is the most efficient, i want to fold/game at max possible OC and i want a kit that covers the cpu and gpu. (read system specs)

    and please note i said most efficient water cooling, i dont want liquid nitrogen ^^
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    cadaveca My name is Dave

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    This one, right here:

    http://www.swiftech.com/h2o-x20-edge-hd.aspx

    Triple output lines from CPU block not only helps with flow issues and restriction, it also allows for easy tubing routing. Rad and block are both designed for high flow, three outlets from CPU block attaches to three inputs on rad.

    THis design is completely different from anything else on the market. Nothing compares to it, period. DOes it give the absolute best temps? maybe not, haven't tested myself.
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    brandonwh64 Addicted to Bacon and StarCrunches!!!

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    T4C Fantasy CPU & GPU DB Maintainer

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    nice! but if nothing compares to it why wouldn't it give the best temps?
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    cadaveca My name is Dave

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    The tubing routing options are what seperates it fomr the rest. No other cooling kit offers that, and as such, a direct compare cannot be made, as it's meant to be used with all the ports. MOst will not test in that config. I would, but meh.
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    T4C Fantasy CPU & GPU DB Maintainer

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    are there any recommended complete kits? chipset, gpu, cpu, others
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    The best temps would be to have two kits, one for CPU and one for GPU.

    But if you will do both then you need to consider at LEAST great triple rad or a quad rad, other wise stick with normal cooling.

    You will want to configure your kit for intake, as it will give better temps.

    Case is also a huge consideration - watercooling systems that are internally mounted really depend on the temperature of the air that is going through the radiator. So a case like this will cool much better than a case with a top mounted rad.

    Best practices:
    1. Separate loops / Minimum triple for single loop - quad if going CFX
    2. Airflow as intake to the rad (i.e. no exhausting case air through the rad)
    3. Push pull on rad with fans
    4. 3/8 or 1/2 tubing
    5. Pump with good head pressure (such as a laing ddc)
    6. Low FPI rad unless you run your fans at 2-3K rpm

    This guy did it right:
    http://www.overclock.net/t/1201973/smiths-watercooled-phantom

    For you - I would get a Corsair H100 for CPU, and build a small loop for the GPU (s).
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    T4C Fantasy CPU & GPU DB Maintainer

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    T4C Fantasy CPU & GPU DB Maintainer

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    i think i just soiled myself
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    My set up is:

    25cm Phobya reservoir (more water, stays cool longer)
    Laing D5 vario pump
    1 x Hardware Labs SR-1 480 Radiator (low fpi)
    1 x EK Coostream XTX 120 Radiator (low fpi)
    5 x PWM enermax fans
    XSPC Raystorm
    Powercolor HD 7970 LCS.

    http://img.techpowerup.org/120414/PC open1.jpg

    Fans run quiet, very quiet, temps stay low. My graphics card runs at about 1175core and 1500 memory and gets to about 55 after hours of gaming (BF3 2560x1440 res, Ultra settings), cpu tops out at 60 on the hottest core (others are low 50's). My cpu is only moderately overclocked at 4.2 (base 3.2, i7 3930k).

    I think custom loops are more effective but Cadaveca's suggestion looks top notch for a simpler and cheaper set up.
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    +1 reviewed that kit a year or two ago... its a great starter kit that one can actually EXPAND. Its basically a custom loop already. If you are cooling a monster GPU, you may need to add more raddage however.
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    fullinfusion 1.21 Gigawatts

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    Id personally go with THIS KIT or a larger kit HERE as you would have top notch cooling hardware and the ability to add on with out worries...

    I'm a little skeptical on the all in one kits as most are just a cheap build.

    I'm more less running a similar system and can take my I7 to 5.4ghz safely without overheating and fans on max. I run 4.8GHz 24/7 and under full stress the highest I've seen the temps go was 52c and thats with low speed fans pushing air from inside the case through the rad and out the top.
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    At those prices, why not go full custom? It could be done cheaper really... or close anyway.
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    fullinfusion 1.21 Gigawatts

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    That is full custom if your referring to my post :confused:
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    T4C Fantasy CPU & GPU DB Maintainer

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    i think he means buying each piece seperately
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    More or less. :toast:

    That way you can get the parts you want as well as not paying a small premium (I would think) for the kit.
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    I love the way that Phantom is set up! I am looking to do something very similar in my Switch 810, although I don't mind 2000rpm 140mm fans in push/pull, so would I be better off with a triple-140 on top and a single 140 on bottom? I could fit a double 140 in bottom but then I am losing 3 3.5" bays and my top 5.25" bay... :/
    Doing the math, a triple 140 with 25fpi or so should dissipate more heat than a quad 120 at 30fpi... So a 30fpi triple 140 with 1800-2000rpm 140mm fans push/pull should dissipate over 650W of heat...
    Using the Apogee HD with parallel lines (I get confused, but I mean 1 in, 3 out) with one going back to rad, one going to MB block (VRM/etc), and one going to, at least initially, a single 670... It seems like it would be enough to support aforementioned equipment with such a rad, and only need an extra 1x140mm push/pull with same specs if another GPU is added. Total of nearly 800W theoretical heat dissipation.
    Or am I way off? I am going by total rad surface area at 30fpi, 110cfm fans @ 3.25mmHg, 25*C "ambient/case" temp, 1/2"ID tubing, 300mL res (total in system should be approx 1.18L), and MCP655 pump specs. Using a heat transfer coefficient 1/2 that of copper, thus assuming a 50% efficiency rate, and I get 793W heat dissipation with average water temp equilibrium (delta-T) of 29.8*C assuming 2hr 100% CPU/GPU/VRM loading which would theoretically be a 72C 4.8Ghz 3770K + 59C 1250Mhz GTX670 + 31C Asus M5G's VRM (in place of M5F for which no data exists).
    I had a friend help with the math (biochemical engineering is my forte, he does electrical engineering and fluid dynamic engineering contractually). I don't know that it's accurate, but he's a smart guy and the equations took up 2 pages of notebook paper so I am inclined to believe it's close.
    But please, if I am wrong, let me know. I prefer to learn ahead of time (free) than too late (expensive) lol
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    Hi

    I cannot blame you liquid nitrogen is so old school; Liquid helium is where it's at, evaporates at -269 °C

    nb: I would suggest custom H2o loop

    atb (all the best)

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    Last edited: May 12, 2012
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    fullinfusion 1.21 Gigawatts

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    Bah! 4He! Canada laughs at it :laugh:

    Canadian winters Is where its at for cooling :D
    ask Dave standing out in his iglo testing OC's

    Thats why Canada Tire sell pre mixed antifreeze hahahahah :pimp:
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    I have that system on my media player and with the pump running anything above minimum it is LOUD!! I know it is a pretty powerful pump and all but being hard mounted to the rad without any shock mounts creates a lot of vibration IMO. I also have the XSPC kit and find the submersed pump awesome and completely silent. Keeps my 2 x 5870's and FX cool.

    I think the secret to good wc performance is in the fans on the rads and the rad itself. the cheaper XSPC kit with another good quality rad and fans would outperform the single rad Swiftech for the same price. In aussie the swiftech is about $100 more than the XSPC 750.
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    Todays chipsets don't really need water cooling.. Perhaps the power componentry (vrm's) for the CPU but only if there's no airflow and you just feel like doing it. Two of those XSPC setups would work great. I'm currently using two XSPC bay resovoir/pump combos. One leads to a dual 120 rad up top for my CPU, the other leads to a triple rad hanging off the back for my GPU. I encounter voltage/clock limitations before any kind of cooling limitation.

    Pics: http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2569904&postcount=19897
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    That's what I use. And added a water block to my 6950 too.

    Good start kit. At least it was for my first time setting up a loop.
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