MS watching US!!! New Update!

[karolpl2004]

i see... well i dont have it on my pc so... HA

 

[trog100]

and i am now running xp pro sp1 and f-ck the upgrades... he he he

trog

 

[Steevo]

Of course it's something in the water. Haven't you seen Stanely Kubrick's Dr. Strangelove or: How I learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb? Flourination of water is part of a communist plot to corrupt our precious bodily fluids.

I, I uhh, DON'T REMEMBER!!!


The fucking communist pig dogs!!!! Again I have been had, shame on me. As a way to protect myself i will only drink Scotch or Yeager (Vodka is from the motherland of Marxisim and Communisim!) and wear a tinfoil hat.

 

[vito7766]

How do they check whether you have a legit Windows. If it's serial based, there are too many cracked registered versions to know which one is legal. Honestly what were they thinking, to pull something like this and then delay Vista to Q1 2008. Nowaday's you only hear bad things about Microsoft. Maybe they should just leave their whole security suites and leave that too Syamntec or McAfee or something. I think that this problem will continue on with Vista too, even if ?Aero? is disabled in cracked versions(or something)? that's not going to stop people.

 

[Thermopylae_480]

If you bought your windows copy you could probably tell by all the flashy holograms and such on the box and disc. If your copy came with your computer from IBM, DELL, Hp, Acer (other western european manufacturers) it is legit. If it came with a Lenovo PC then it could be, and probably is, but China has some copyright issues sooo... If your copy of windows is on a homemade CD, it's probably not legit.

 

[Mercenary4]

What differs from os x and xp is how it handles installation, which is the most noticable.

It asks for an admin password upon needing permissions. This is a simple yet effective way to prevent unwanted installation of spyware and the like, and also prevents incompetent usage to an extent.

Oh, and I'm also amazed it took....6 revisions of windows to even begin some of the file permissions that linux has had and used from the get go.

Just provide an admin password when you install something (just like os x? HOW STRANGE?!) and there isnt that one size fits all security hole known as the user.

Before SP2, maybe even before SP1, a limited account would ask for the admin account password to install anything. Once the Service Packs came out you had to be logged on as admin to install anything. They tried, but it seems either MS failed, or decided to go a different route with this issue.

 

[CjStaal]

And nobody forget the "unintended" wmf rootkit.... Windows say's it's not severe enough to patch... but then when a guy actually took it apart and looked at the wmf... all you have to do is input "1" in to a function that has absolutely nothing to do with the graphics for wmp.... Windows made this vulnerability intentionally for feds/cia/whatever to get easy access in to any remote pc.... Don't use windows.

 

[vito7766]

If you bought your windows copy you could probably tell by all the flashy holograms and such on the box and disc. If your copy came with your computer from IBM, DELL, Hp, Acer (other western european manufacturers) it is legit. If it came with a Lenovo PC then it could be, and probably is, but China has some copyright issues sooo... If your copy of windows is on a homemade CD, it's probably not legit.

I'm talking about how would Windows know you have the legal Windows, but the person with the cracked Windows has the illegal one. They would get it wrong every time.

 

[CjStaal]

The product keys used.

 

[Polaris573]

How do they check whether you have a legit Windows. If it's serial based, there are too many cracked registered versions to know which one is legal. Honestly what were they thinking, to pull something like this and then delay Vista to Q1 2008. Nowaday's you only hear bad things about Microsoft. Maybe they should just leave their whole security suites and leave that too Syamntec or McAfee or something. I think that this problem will continue on with Vista too, even if ?Aero? is disabled in cracked versions(or something)? that's not going to stop people.

I think they might have a super massive database of keys they have issued. The "genuine advantage" programs report back to MS to see if that key has been issued to an OEM or to a retail package. Keys popular among "pirates" have in the past been made "unofficial" and changing the key to a different one has allowed some to get by "security checks." So the key has to be what causes windows to be "unofficial" I can't see what else it would be.

 

[trog100]

its the key.. but for the last few months they have insisted u install the verification software on your machine before u can update anything.. once thats on they have u by the short and curlies..

aye aye me hearties.. cast off astern... he he

trog

ps.. read this then think about helping the poor guy get his wish... he he he

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=31464

 

[Steevo]

Some of you are silly.

HAL=Hardware Abstraction Layer=Machine ID+Product Key=Activation code

So, your hardware determines part of the true activation code, and THAT my fine sir is how they determine if the Key is already in use, as two machines will submit the same Key, but with two different activation codes as the HAL is different.

 

[nyioo7@hotmail.com]

tht problem is so stupid and so simple to solve and tht program is so simple to remove it..........even dummy can do it............. well figure it out..........peace

 

[Dippyskoodlez]

Some of you are silly.

HAL=Hardware Abstraction Layer=Machine ID+Product Key=Activation code

So, your hardware determines part of the true activation code, and THAT my fine sir is how they determine if the Key is already in use, as two machines will submit the same Key, but with two different activation codes as the HAL is different.

Although HAL, does a hell of a lot more than just a machine idea...

 

[Alec§taar]

I'm going to let you guys in on a VERY LITTLE KNOWN factoid, about Windows NT-based OS since their inception:

Randomly, since NT 3.51 or NT 4.0? The OS pings a server... with a Microsoft name on it!



* Think you haven't been "watched" in some capacity since the inception of this OS family? Guess again... it's just gotten more sophisticated over time is all

APK

 

[Dippyskoodlez]

I'm going to let you guys in on a VERY LITTLE KNOWN factoid, about Windows NT-based OS since their inception:

Randomly, since NT 3.51 or NT 4.0? The OS pings a server... with a Microsoft name on it!



* Think you haven't been "watched" in some capacity since the inception of this OS family? Guess again... it's just gotten more sophisticated over time is all

APK

Any smart product vendor would do that with a market this size...

 

[Alec§taar]

Any smart product vendor would do that with a market this size...

And, any "smart user" (purely relative term) stops it, with either the RIGHT firewall, the route command, or ports filtrations... or hardware routers/firewalls.

APK

P.S.=> You gotta "stick it to the man" sometimes, when he tries sticking it to YOU, first... apk

 

[Dippyskoodlez]

And, any "smart user" (purely relative term) stops it, with either the RIGHT firewall, the route command, or ports filtrations... or hardware routers/firewalls.

APK

P.S.=> You gotta "stick it to the man" sometimes, when he tries sticking it to YOU, first... apk

Exactly.

 

[strick94u]

I remember when the original MS Office came out its was 100 bucks and it was a well known fact that most everyone took it from work and loaded it on their home pc. Microsoft even encouraged this practise. why you ask simple word perfict and lotus 123 were the number 1 business programs and Microsoft wanted them dead zip ahead to the year 2000 MS office is now on 95 percent of all the business pc's in the world and now cost 700 dollars so it was time to snap the trap mid year Office 2000 got a coypright program inserted into it you may now load it on 2 pc's thats is. It was brilliant suck them in and milk them till they bleed. MS is even so bold they tell other software companys how and when to write their software and let very little of thier code out so it cost other software companys millions in support dollars to run their software. Now if your a small builder you can buy legit oem windows for about 100 bucks for home 299 for pro from MS but if you are a big company like Dell or HP than you can get it for next to nothing long as you load the timed versions on your pc's and agree to sticker it with the made for windows logo.I for one am sick of Bill Gates greed
if you have a windows problem you cant look to Microsoft for help unless you lay down so money alot of great programs are gone now becuase of MS and the unleashing of crap on us
and why do all the game companys port only for windows? We cant count on the govrment to stop Microsoft becuase they are about two dollars away from being bought by MS themself. And now we are being scaned I'm shocked. Perhaps if MS gave sweet deals to the little computer companys also there would be less piracy
Dear bill scan me you wont find a damn thing and geuss what I didnt pay for any of it HEHEHE

 

[Alec§taar]

I remember when the original MS Office came out its was 100 bucks and it was a well known fact that most everyone took it from work and loaded it on their home pc. Microsoft even encouraged this practise. why you ask simple word perfict and lotus 123 were the number 1 business programs and Microsoft wanted them dead zip ahead to the year 2000 MS office is now on 95 percent of all the business pc's in the world and now cost 700 dollars so it was time to snap the trap mid year Office 2000 got a coypright program inserted into it you may now load it on 2 pc's thats is. It was brilliant suck them in and milk them till they bleed.

Hmmm, I can show you 10 "trustees of modern chemistry" around the block from where I live that do the SAME thing... not so brilliant really man, just taking advantage of human nature.

MS is even so bold they tell other software companys how and when to write their software and let very little of thier code out so it cost other software companys millions in support dollars to run their software.

True: I had their legal eagles write me in 2001 making me change the NAME of one of my programs I wrote for the shareware/freeware circuit no less... I couldn't BELIEVE it, & I am truly an "MS Fanboy" too & generally promote the HELL out of them for decades now no less online!

Now if your a small builder you can buy legit oem windows for about 100 bucks for home 299 for pro from MS but if you are a big company like Dell or HP than you can get it for next to nothing long as you load the timed versions on your pc's and agree to sticker it with the made for windows logo.I for one am sick of Bill Gates greed
if you have a windows problem you cant look to Microsoft for help unless you lay down so money alot of great programs are gone now becuase of MS and the unleashing of crap on us

Well, it's THAT (pay), or learn to do it, yourself (great things these forums & ones like 'em for/in that capacity): Just like Harley riders do - learn to build it yourself, & fix it yourself, depend on NOBODY (or not much).

and why do all the game companys port only for windows? We cant count on the govrment to stop Microsoft becuase they are about two dollars away from being bought by MS themself. And now we are being scaned I'm shocked. Perhaps if MS gave sweet deals to the little computer companys also there would be less piracy
Dear bill scan me you wont find a damn thing and geuss what I didnt pay for any of it HEHEHE

THE HOLY DOLLAR SPEAKING, that one... I was faced with the choice to develop for VMS, IBM AS/400 (os400 & its progenitors in System 34/36/38) & various UNIX when I left college (1st of 2 degrees in this field)... couldn't STAND those.

BUT, when I saw Windows? I was like "NOW, there's 'art & science' in 1 package" & something I was interested in... hell, impressed by!

PLUS, there is an economic incentive IS there if you build Win32 though... you WILL find work, you will make money, almost guaranteed... if not coding, then doing network admin/engineer work, or even tech support stuff!

Why? Heck - WINDOWS UBER ALLES (it is everywhere, & ubiquitous/flexible as hell)... nothing is like it out there, not that I am aware of, & I've been @ these things since 1982 really (computers in general).

APK