Discussion in 'Reviews' started by W1zzard, Jun 21, 2013.
To read this review go to: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_770_TF_Gaming/
Ill keep a better look on MSI products next time i upgrade.
I know one particular fella that will love this card
Wow MSI is becoming more and more impressive, they've delivered a streak of awesome products.
9.8 such a high and deserved score and I feel this would have been a 10 with a memory overclock out of the box.
Thank you for the review fellow magician!
Nice review, but I have some remarks.
On Temperatures Page you measure 34°C an 79°C but later on the "GPU Temperature Comparison" table u paste Lightning score.
Because I'm about to buy msi gaming or gigabyte card, I try to understand the results well.
What wonders me the most is the Maximum Overclock Comparison
Which are great compared to other 770 models but I doubt, in which resolution the measurements were made?
You poste there a table where "MSI gaming" get 91.6fps -> 101.7fps on OC in 1920x1200
but when i Back to Battlefield 3 results Page it turns out that the 91.6fps was measure on lower resolution 1920x1080
so I suspect this Is why there are so BIG differences on the "Maximum Overclock Comparison table" in favor of both MSI cards.
Palit, Asus, Gigabyte were tested on different (higher) resolution and on different "test setup" (haswell 4770k vs ivy bridge 3770k). I'm right?
Can you rerun overclocked gigabyte, palit, asus, reference 770 in the same resolution 1920x1080 and on the same haswell test setup? and update "Maximum Overclock Comparison" table?
I think results will be much honest and closer to each other and I suspect that "msi gaming" can even lose with some other brands.
Two questions Wiz.
If running 1440p + additional side monitors.
Would you recommend going for a 680 4GB card, or will a 2GB 770 handle it with no issues? (The more I research, the more it looks like the headroom for 1440p requires over 2GB, or is that just synthetic measurements?)
2. With several 770 products in stock, are you going to release an SLI review of the 770 series? Since it should be relatively directly comparable to the 680 SLI figures, it would be interesting to see!!
The truth is that they only had a few bad years (Mobos on fire and stuff) and everybody jumped on the hate bandwagon and stayed there for quite a long time for no reason. Perhaps they are not in the top tier when it comes to pursuing perfection, but they do offer very good price/performance ratio products for many years now, products which are top performers in any given hardware generation. The new Gaming series product family is a fine example of this trend.
This OC's almost identically to the Lightning?! And its a Gaming version.
fixed the temperature table. copy and pasted and forgot to change the numbers.
about the oc results. both are at 1920x1080. but cards from older reviews were benched at x1200 (we switched from x1200 to x1080 in the latest test bench update). i removed the oc comparison numbers
Thanks W1zzard for fast response.
The same way Lightning overclocking page should be corrected.
One more thing to correct is on the Overclocking page it should be "Battlefield 3 1920x1080 4xAA"
Any chance to test OC gigabyte again on the same resolution and "Test setup" like msi. ?
The only way I can compare fair "gigabyte" and "msi gaming" is their improvement from "reference 770" in Battlefield 3 with OC.
"reference 770" 87.1fps -> 101.7fps on "msi OC" so it's + 17%
"reference 80.1fps" -> 96fps on "gigabyte OC" so it's + 20%
In such meaning gigabyte wins.
that logic sounds acceptable, but my gigabyte card oc'd a little bit higehr than the card from msi. your card will overclock differently, dont worry about the 3% difference
Im more inclined to go with the MSI cards (and I have) because theres an MSI rep that lurks on TPU. Its always nice to have a silent ninja there to assist when you most need him.
Even if MSI RMA reps stonewall you, at least here you can message the rep and he will do what he can, Even if the end result isnt what you wanted at least the was someone on your side trying to push the ball forward for you no matter how little progress is made.
(neliz - better not let me down, or I will find you and eat your cat)
W1zz you have a mistake on the last page in the PROs of the card. It says: Fast 7Gbps GDDR5 Memory. When it should say Fast 7Ghz GDDR5 Memory
Other wise great review
Gbps is correct. The actual clock frequency (GHz) is 1750 MHz. Transferring 4 bits of data every clock cycle (quad pumped). 1750 MHz * 4 Bits = 7000 Gbps. Marketing people use the terms interchangeably and want you to think their product runs a gazillion MHz because that makes it more awesome
"highest details with PhysX turned off. " is a little vague for me, could you please tell me with what settings you tested in Metro: LL ? with this settings
i only get 36 fps with the system i have in my profile. I`m pondering if i should sell my two GTX660 and buy a single GTX770. Thanks.
why did you switch?
exactly why did you switch from 1200p? i have a 1200p monitor. i adored tpu gk reviews just because i instantly saw the performance at my typical resolution! 1200p is so much superior over the impractical 1080p . you have officially become a website for children upon switching to 1080p and become a subservient entity for the evil marketing people . shame. true shame! :shadedshu
It's what the people want. Whether you like it or not 1920x1080 is far more popular than 1920x1200. According to the most recent Steam hardware survey 1920x1080 commands a hefty lead over the ninth place 1920x1200. 1920x1200 may be superior, sure, but 1920x1080 is the new standard. /sheep
30.83% 1920 x 1080
21.60% 1366 x 768
8.37% 1280 x 1024
8.05% 1680 x 1050
7.57% 1600 x 900
6.43% 1440 x 900
3.55% 1024 x 768
3.08% 1280 x 800
2.79% 1920 x 1200
2.64% 1360 x 768
Also, if people are going to use a 3 screen setup, they're more likely to be using three 1080p monitors and there's still 1600p in there. So you have all the sub 1080p resolutions, 1080p, 1600p and 5760x1080p. That is a lot of different resolutions, more than I've seen anywhere else.
Wizzard I am pretty sure in the last page (in your bullet points) you mean 14% faster than GTX770 (and not GTX670) cause that is the only thing that makes sense.
It's meant to be 670. It should be 16% though if going by "all resolutions".
why flip flop? why not defend what was once set right?
everyone in my neighbourhood hates 1080p and doesnt understand why people use 16:9 aspect ratio.. this is the result of marketing. if the hardware producers pushed the 16:10, people would buy that. what i wanted to say that tpu had the power to fight the marketing evil, but instead they succumbed to it with disgusting ease. i cant really respect an entity who flips to go with the herd just to feel more comfortable. i now understand why the united states of america start wars all around the world. because the sheeple are so easily persuaded, that the more wars the us perform, the more comfortable its citizens are going to feel. vote for the wrong, just dont stick your head from the crowd! what a great mentality of "sentient beings" after thousands of years of evolution.. good for burrying freedom and venerating slavery..
in short? tpu made a step back.
Which one card do you think have better cooled VRMs?
MSI GTX 770 TwinFrozr Gaming or Gigabyte GTX 770 Windforce?
Both costs the same for me.
IF U ARE RUNNING a website like TPU which viewers u will give more priority?
Visitor looking for 1080p - 30% user
or Visitor looking for 1200p - 2% user
If u are saying 2%, then make your own product review website.
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