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MSI R9 280X Gaming 3072 MB

Discussion in 'Reviews' started by W1zzard, Oct 8, 2013.

  1. raghu78

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    I've yet to find a 7970 that won't run GHz clocks, must have tested hundreds...
     
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    Don't worry, this is a typical review from TPU. AMD must suck for some reason :lol:
     
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    Well no I'll call a "Spade a Spade" when there's evidance of that.

    Either way we know Origin felt slighted, and threw the baby out with the dirty bath water. :laugh:
     
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    None of those reviews have any mention of VRM temperatures. That is what the TPU review had issues with. It looks like TPU was the only review to test VRM temperatures. I give props to W1zzard for that.
     
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    You have to note that TPU is the only review that hit 80ish in temp. That is enough to do an RMA. W1zz should have contacted MSI before posting those results.
     
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    I thought a lot of high end GPUs hovered around 79-81C these days?
     
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    maybe with reference coolers but not not with custom coolers. that too at stock. the core temps are 20c higher for wizzard. he must have checked with msi if thats what the normal expected temps with the twin frozer design are or if its a faulty sample.
     
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    Ah it says 87C during gaming, that's more like 90 than 80! There have been some whack gpu thermal paste job pics in the forums before. Pry the card apart and find out ...
     
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    Just a note, I finally got my sample's bios flashed and do not see the heat issues expressed in this review. Our review should be up in a few days. ;)

    Overclocked with the flashed bios mine saw 69C on a TEST BENCH (no airflow).

    As I mentioned earlier in this thread, MSI released a new bios (prior to NDA release and publishing.. by a day) to help with performance and the fan curve/cooling. I did not test with the previous bios but perhaps that solved the issue.
     
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    Wouldn't a test bench be the best case scenario for an axial fan cooler? The worst thing you can do to an axial fan cooler is to put it in an enclosed area like a case where the exhaust can't dissipate. On a test bench you have all the open space you ever need for the hot air to dissipate.
    If the new BIOS was available less than 24 hours before the NDA expiration, can you really blame the reviewer for not wasting a day to rerun his tests in an urgent rush before the deadline? One day seems like a ridiculously short window to retest, especially if he had other reviews that need to be completed.
     
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    Correct... I was thinking mobo VRM's for some reason, haha! Still, inside a case, they wouldn't throttle (40C difference?).

    Let me be clear... I am not blaming W1zz for an oversight assuming he even received the bios (he had to?). That is a tight timeframe no doubt. That said, a simple mention in the article would have been helpful or simply running only the tests he uses for temperatures, not the entire suite. But certainly, not his fault in that tight of a time frame. :)

    EDIT: Its one game he uses for temps.
     
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    All the bar graphs say 2048mb instead of 3072mb

    Disappointed these cards are nothing new. Looking forward to the 290x!
     
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    just because I failed at making the graphs. thanks for spotting that issue

    I've been in Moscow since last weekend, had the review ready in time. got the bios after launch
     
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    SRSLY???

    Can I be an engineer too please. Getting paid to shove crayons up my nose sounds waaaaay better than my current job.

    But seriously.

    WTF?
     
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    I do not understand what you are trying to point out? A loose connector?
     
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    It could make sense if you ran the benchmark again with the launch bios. The heat problem only happened with TPU's sample, and of course it affected the result. Keeping those false numbers on a prestigious tech site like TPU is a shame :mad:
     
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    SAPPHIRE VAPOR-X R9 280X 3GB GDDR5 OC

    Why there is no review this card? This one should be better than MSI punya card.
     
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    i want one of these (reference design at least).


    not fussed if its a rehash - its a CHEAPER rehash


    oh and trust me: if we're commenting on the BIOS or the fan settings affecting the temps, have faith that w1zzy poos has already tested it to death and contacted MSI about it. he just doesnt do updates on the fly without 100% confirmation - so if he's waiting on an email from MSI, we wont hear about it til its done.


    his results show the card was running very quiet, and somewhat hot - that is EXACTLY the kind of thing a BIOS update (or even a driver setting) can change.
     
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    They cost the same... a couple of 7970's are actually less than $300 now (after MIR so depends on if you count that, LOL!). These are $300+.
     
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    right now, a 7970 costs $60 more than a 280x :/

    (here in aus)
     
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    I have this problem with a mini-HDMI adapter with my Dad's HTPC. The connection is very, very prone to falling out (gravity!) with that tiny plug. What it needs is an adapter cable, and to secure the cable to the back of the PC. Though I actually just ordered him a new card with a full-sized HDMI connection yesterday, which will solve this (I didn't order it just for that though.)
     
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    Stupid other countries existing... :p

    Sorry, we all generally speak about where we get our cards. I did not know you were from down under. :)
     
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