Discussion in 'Reviews' started by W1zzard, Jan 19, 2011.
To read this review go to: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/HD_6950_Twin_Frozr_II/
your sample didnt unlock? hmmm so non reference cards have even lower chance if not possible right?
Non reference cards most likely won't lock. Reference cards will start to not be able to unlock.
I personally disagree with the low rating. I think that card scales quite nicely with voltage, and people will usually pay $30 for a better, quieter cooler. The fact that is doesn't unlock will soon become irrelevant because all of the unlocking cards will already be off the shelves and in customers' hands. My view: If you missed the unlocking bandwagon, snag one of these and put a waterblock on it
I just realized, tpu reviews don't have temperature?
There's a graph with voltage, temperature, and core clock on the overclocking page.
in the overclocking page
but yeah its not titled as temps
so how is 3dmark 03, 05 and even 06 even relevant? I thought 3dmark 11 was the new rage now
next rebench of all new cards will have 3dmark11
Good review Wizzard but that 7.8 was abit harsh this is the card I've been waiting for well 2 of em
$130 dollar for just > 6 fps higher?
i'd rather buy two 6850 cyclone 1GB for crossfire than bought this card :shadedshu
In my opinion, review for MSI is to low, i read test in polish review http://www.in4.pl/recenzje.htm?rec_id=680 and compar. For me unlock, physx isn't important things - when i bought AMD GPU I known, i will don't had it. Low noise and temperature is most important for me.
I think the cards deserve more than 7.8. A Badass cooler, good temps and better overclock for just $30 more than reference card.
Doesn't unlock. Fail for most of the people here.
also, wouldn't it be kinda nice to give an idea of how the card performs once you overclock/voltage tune it to well over 1 ghz? Maybe it's just me but definitely would think people would be interested in seeing what this card does not just with the stock voltage overclock but with the voltage added...probably all but smokes the gtx 580 in some things at that speed...for 330 bucks...again I agree with others saying a 7.8 rating along with the harsh words of how the card isn't worth a "premium" of 30 bucks seems kind of crazy to me honestly considering the great temps and much better overclocking of the card over reference.
^+1 on the overclocked/overvolted performance figures!
That's one thing I'd like to see as well, but know wiz does too much already lol
Probably doesn't have time to really get his tweek on.
I go to other websites to see overclocked results, easy.
Whilst it's all cool only using tpu for reviews, always better to check other places
Awesome looking card. Although I have just bought this rig a few months and now wanting to upgrade my 5850 up a notch, although it still serves me fine.
So this is version with Texas Instruments Dr.Mos! It's a pity I can't see model numbers on them. Looks interesting, as it uses only ceramic capacitors to smooth out voltages. It makes me think that it uses very high frequency VRM switching (1-2MHz). It must have very low ripple ,maybe that is another reason why it clocks so well.
*edit* looks like it uses electrolytic ones too, but they are small, so I think ripple could be low woth this card.
dont understand, i thought there are dx11 games out there?
btw when does this card get to market?
Shame about the unlocking, it kind of seals the deal on the 6950. Just pulled it off on a Powercolor card.
Good, informative review as usual But a question arise: you've achieved 945 MHz on core with the MSI default 1.21 V, but in Voltage Regulation section the table displays approximately 990MHz at the very same value of 1.21 V, - so am I right to understand that the second result is due to the graphic memory left intact ?
However, the card is great, I don't see its inability to be unlocked as a drawback at all ! The reference cards, as a really general wailing demonstrates, are somewhat unbearable noise and heat production stations, even without any mods/unlocks.
Personally I will soon be choosing between these new "Twin Frozrs" - on HD6950 and GF560Ti chips ...
And yes, Wizzard, I will also like to see HD6950 and GF560Ti face to face with the same clocks around 1000 MHZ - Core and 5000-5500 MHZ -memory ...
voltage regulation table shows measured voltage using dmm, voltage tuning shows voltage read from the voltage controller
So? Sorry, Wizzard, can't just catch on what it should mean for me practically, what voltage should I try to put to get, let's say, - 1000 Mhz on core, stable ...
Modding the MSI HD 6950 Twin Frozr
I have one of these cards and I am very pleased with it, it overclocks effortlessly to 950 with a voltage of 1.21, has anyone managed to mod this card & which vBios did you use, I am willing to try it as I have a couple of video cards spare so I could install one to unbrick the 6950 if I need to.
My kind but firm recommendation - don't dare do it, do not try to mod the card! At the corresponding thread of our Russian enthusiastic overclockers forum - http://forums.overclockers.ru/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=381608&start=5400 (you may, I presume, study it yourself with the help of, say, GoogleTranslate) - we have already come to the more or less general conclusion that in the case of the totally non-reference card as the 6950 Twin Frozr II is indeed, 6950-to-6970 modding appears to be unnecessary risky and unworthy lottery. The more so as without any mods it does overclock brilliantly (and you yourself confirms it) to the level where it becomes a happy rival of the 6970
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