MSI Z370 SLI PLUS + i9 9900k bad perfomance.

[FaceitLVL10]

Recently my pc has been crashing a considerable amount. I also do not get great FPS in games. Comparing to my friends with much lower end builds then mine, I managed to still get the same FPS as them.

MSI Z370 sli plus - Latest BIOS
i9 9900k @ 3.6
MSI RTX 4070
Corsair h100i pro
64gb Corsair ddr4 3600mhz
corsair 650w psu
samsung m.2 ssd
hdd x 2

If I turn on game boost my pc will crash and all the monitors will go black about 5 minutes into any game & my mouse & keyboard are unresponsive. All of the PC lights are on and fans are still spinning. However the power button will not turn off the PC no matter what and the only way to reboot is to flip off the PSU switch. When it does crash the CPU debug led is lit on the motherboard. I just did a clean wipe of my PC & reinstalled windows and it did not solve the issue. In my BIOS I'm not actually able to change any CPU overclock settings either they are all greyed out. I talked to someone who knowledgeable about PC's and they stated it was because the MOBO only has a single 8 pin CPU connector. Has anyone else had a similar experience or can offer any advise I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks!

 

[Toothless]

Which specific power supply and what are thermals looking like?

Whoever you talked to about the CPU power is wrong and shouldn't be giving advice.

 

[FaceitLVL10]

Which specific power supply and what are thermals looking like?

Whoever you talked to about the CPU power is wrong and shouldn't be giving advice.

Corsair tx650m PSU. Thermals never exceed 70c across GPU & CPU.

 

[joemama]

i9 9900k @ 3.6

What is the 3.6? 9900K's boost clock should be between 4.4~5GHz

If I turn on game boost my pc will crash

What the hell is game boost?

MOBO only has a single 8 pin CPU connector

8 pin connectors come from the PSU, are all the sockets on the GPU plugged in?

Try RTSS and see if the CPU or GPU is running at 100%

 

[Toothless]

Corsair tx650m PSU. Thermals never exceed 70c across GPU & CPU.

Okay so don't use any of that "game boosting" software junk. It does nothing to help and uninstall whatever you have.

Reset bios to defaults, enable XMP for memory, and leave it alone. I ran a 9700k in a different rig til last week and that chip is enough for a 4070.

EDIT: Honestly I'd just nuke the drive and do a fresh windows install at this point.

 

[Ware]

What the hell is game boost?

Okay so don't use any of that "game boosting" software junk

Game Boost isn't junk software, appears to be MSI's version of "auto-overclocking".
Same advice thought: don't use it.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Mid range board with a high end CPU that is known to be an absolute guzzler at the tap.



Make sure to keep your VRMs cool. Id even go as far as to say your VRMs possibly might be thermal throttling.

 

[Toothless]

Game Boost isn't junk software, appears to be MSI's version of "auto-overclocking".
Same advice thought: don't use it.

It is junk. Any brand trying to "speed up" systems by disabling OS features and processes is junk and MSI software besides Afterburner is junk. Asus Armorycrate is junk. Powercolor's Devil Zone is junk, etc etc. All buggy, resource hogging junk.

 

[FaceitLVL10]

Okay so don't use any of that "game boosting" software junk. It does nothing to help and uninstall whatever you have.

Reset bios to defaults, enable XMP for memory, and leave it alone. I ran a 9700k in a different rig til last week and that chip is enough for a 4070.

EDIT: Honestly I'd just nuke the drive and do a fresh windows install at this point.

The problem is I cant overclock it at all. The i9 is running @ 3.6ghz because I can't OC it and its slow af. Im getting sub 200 FPS in cs2 low settings.

 

[Toothless]

The problem is I cant overclock it at all. The i9 is running @ 3.6ghz because I can't OC it and its slow af. Im getting sub 200 FPS in cs2 low settings.

For now check your "edit power settings" in windows and make sure max processor limit is 100%. I'll check your board manual for power settings later as I'm working.

Edit: Okay so make sure OC mode is OFF. When you're in the bios make sure you're in ADVANCED mode with you can get there by pushing F7.

In the OC menu, make sure turbo boost is enabled and EIST is also enabled. Save and exit and check again.

Also helps to have XMP on for memory.

 

[FaceitLVL10]

For now check your "edit power settings" in windows and make sure max processor limit is 100%. I'll check your board manual for power settings later as I'm working.

Edit: Okay so make sure OC mode is OFF. When you're in the bios make sure you're in ADVANCED mode with you can get there by pushing F7.

In the OC menu, make sure turbo boost is enabled and EIST is also enabled. Save and exit and check again.

Also helps to have XMP on for memory.

EIST is enabled, If I turn on turbo boost it will start crashing. XMP is enabled already.


It wont crash if system is running @ 3.6ghz. If I turn on turbo boost or game boost the system starts crashing after about 5-10 minutes of any game being open. The only way to turn off the system is to flip off the PSU switch, power button does not work.

Edit: My motherboard and CPU are fairly old, however the rest of the system is upgraded almost yearly. Just recently has the crashing been a major issue.

 

[Toothless]

Can you view thermals before the crash?

 

[Hyderz]

maybe reseat the ram and the gpu, maybe a dust or two got in...
doesnt hurt or cost anything to reseat the contact..

 

[FaceitLVL10]

Can you view thermals before the crash?

Nothing has exceeded 75c. Across GPU MOBO CPU.

maybe reseat the ram and the gpu, maybe a dust or two got in...
doesnt hurt or cost anything to reseat the contact..

Can you view thermals before the crash?

Here is a video of my temps during the crash. CS2 was open for about 2 minutes just in the main menu. You can see temps as the PC crashes (when video freezes). When it crashes all the lights on the PC are on/fans running, keyboard/mouse are unresponsive and all monitors are black. CPU debug led is on when crashed.

EDIT: This is with just turbo boost & XMP turned on.

 

[Toothless]

Try adding a LITTLE bit more voltage to the CPU in a voltage offset. Like a single step up.

 

[ShrimpBrime]

64gb Corsair ddr4 3600mhz

That's a lot of memory for a system that was regularly used with 16gb memory and 32gb considered way more than enough for gaming. At the time this system was the latest and greatest.

I'm curious if this is 64gb across 2 sticks, 4 sticks and if there is mixed memory kits involved here.

Got the memory specs and configuration?

 

[Toothless]

That's a lot of memory for a system that was regularly used with 16gb memory and 32gb considered way more than enough for gaming. At the time this system was the latest and greatest.

I'm curious if this is 64gb across 2 sticks, 4 sticks and if there is mixed memory kits involved here.

Got the memory specs and configuration?

Four temps in their video, I'm assuming 4x16GB.

 

[ShrimpBrime]

Four temps in their video, I'm assuming 4x16GB.

You're probably right! I'd pull 2 sticks and test. That's a lot of memory on the IMC with XMP. Alternatively, a little extra memory controller voltage could help. Little system agent bump perhaps?

 

[FaceitLVL10]

Try adding a LITTLE bit more voltage to the CPU in a voltage offset. Like a single step up.

I'm unable to. All CPU modifications in bios don't let me change them. I've installed the newest version of bios and went back and installed older versions, nothing changed.

Only thing I can enable is EIST, turbo boost and advanced turbo boost. All other options are there but I'm not able to change any values.

 

[Toothless]

I'm unable to. All CPU modifications in bios don't let me change them. I've installed the newest version of bios and went back and installed older versions, nothing changed.

I'll dig in your bios manual later today. Got a house call to do so hopefully won't take too long.

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In BIOS, advanced viewing, OC menu.

OC Explore Mode - Expert

CPU Ratio Mode [Dynamic Mode]

Misc Setting* EIST Enabled and Intel Turbo Boost Enabled

Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.) Enabled

CPU Core/ GT Voltage Mode [Offset mode] INCREASE THIS BY ONE STEP.

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Go down into CPU FEATURES

Turn off Intel Virtualization Tech

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Save, exit, try all this.

 

[FaceitLVL10]

Changed these settings & enabled turbo boost still crashed.

CPU Core/ GT Voltage Mode [Offset mode] INCREASE THIS BY ONE STEP. --- I wasn't able to change this its set to auto and I cant change it like other settings.

CPU Ratio Mode [Dynamic Mode] -- I wasn't able to change this its set to auto and I cant change it like other settings.

Im not the most knowledgeable with PC's so if I did something wrong lmk

I'll dig in your bios manual later today. Got a house call to do so hopefully won't take too long.

---------------------------------EDIT------------------------------

In BIOS, advanced viewing, OC menu.

OC Explore Mode - Expert

CPU Ratio Mode [Dynamic Mode]

Misc Setting* EIST Enabled and Intel Turbo Boost Enabled

Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.) Enabled

CPU Core/ GT Voltage Mode [Offset mode] INCREASE THIS BY ONE STEP.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Go down into CPU FEATURES

Turn off Intel Virtualization Tech

-----------------------------------------------

Save, exit, try all this.

Changed these settings & enabled turbo boost still crashed.

CPU Core/ GT Voltage Mode [Offset mode] INCREASE THIS BY ONE STEP. --- I wasn't able to change this its set to auto and I cant change it like other settings.

CPU Ratio Mode [Dynamic Mode] -- I wasn't able to change this its set to auto and I cant change it like other settings.

Im not the most knowledgeable with PC's so if I did something wrong lmk

 

[Toothless]

Changed these settings & enabled turbo boost still crashed.

CPU Core/ GT Voltage Mode [Offset mode] INCREASE THIS BY ONE STEP. --- I wasn't able to change this its set to auto and I cant change it like other settings.

CPU Ratio Mode [Dynamic Mode] -- I wasn't able to change this its set to auto and I cant change it like other settings.

Im not the most knowledgeable with PC's so if I did something wrong lmk


Changed these settings & enabled turbo boost still crashed.

CPU Core/ GT Voltage Mode [Offset mode] INCREASE THIS BY ONE STEP. --- I wasn't able to change this its set to auto and I cant change it like other settings.

CPU Ratio Mode [Dynamic Mode] -- I wasn't able to change this its set to auto and I cant change it like other settings.

Im not the most knowledgeable with PC's so if I did something wrong lmk

See if CPU Voltage (right under CPU Core/ GT Voltage Mode) can be changed to offset, bump up one.

 

[FaceitLVL10]

See if CPU Voltage (right under CPU Core/ GT Voltage Mode) can be changed to offset, bump up one.

It can be set to offset but I can’t change any values. Also GT/Voltage mode isn’t an option anywhere including search

It can be set to offset but I can’t change any values. Also GT/Voltage mode isn’t an option anywhere including search

I also don’t understand why so many options I’m not able to change, is there a setting I have preventing this or something.

 

[Toothless]

It can be set to offset but I can’t change any values. Also GT/Voltage mode isn’t an option anywhere including search


I also don’t understand why so many options I’m not able to change, is there a setting I have preventing this or something.

On auto.. hit the + sign and see what happens. Just curious.

 

[FaceitLVL10]

On auto.. hit the + sign and see what happens. Just curious.

If you could check your message inbox I would greatly appreciate it.