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hi
were are you going to get them?
almost no one in portugal sells mushkin :(

There is 6 mushkin resellers in portugal , on that list I provided.
 

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i see now
most of them are far away from me
except aquapc.com (wich is on the list) but has none for sale
http://www.aquapc.com/loja/?id=65 :(

Only thing I think of, is ordering online.

I was ask someone from mushkin europe to see if they still carry mushkin product.
 

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Only thing I think of, is ordering online.

I was ask someone from mushkin europe to see if they still carry mushkin product.

no need, i don't wan't it for the moment, maybe in a couple months, but thanks for the help :)
 
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Hi,

I recently won an XP-650AP PSU from this board (it was a few months ago now), and I got round to installing it last week. It wouldn't power up, so I took it to a local shop, and they said the PSU had blew and took my motherboard with it. I'm RMAing my motherboard, but what do I need to do to RMA the PSU? I'm in the UK, if it helps.

Thanks,

Ben.
 

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Hi,

I recently won an XP-650AP PSU from this board (it was a few months ago now), and I got round to installing it last week. It wouldn't power up, so I took it to a local shop, and they said the PSU had blew and took my motherboard with it. I'm RMAing my motherboard, but what do I need to do to RMA the PSU? I'm in the UK, if it helps.

Thanks,

Ben.

Sorry about the delay. I have sent you a PM regarding.

We will get this sorted out asap. If you can reply to my PM that will be great.

Thanks


Greg
 

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Hi Zebbo,

I was wondering if you could help with a quick compatibility check.

I just bought some XP PC2-8000 Redline 4GB 2X2GB DDR2-1000 (model # 996593). Will they work on this mobo: Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3 Socket 775 (rev 2.1)?

I'm posting the links if that helps:

http://www.mushkin.com/doc/products/memory_detail.asp?id=647

http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Products_Spec.aspx?ProductID=2748

Thanks a lot in advance!


Yes the should run just fine. Ari (Zebbo) isn't around today
 

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great, thanks for that!
 

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a latency increase with higher FSB?

Hi Zebbo,

I've been using some Redline DDR2 PC2-8000 1000MHz 2x2GB for the past 2 weeks, and I have a couple of questions :):

First I wonder why both my BIOS (Version F13a Jan '08 Gigabyte GS-P35-DS3 rev 2.1) and cpu-z 1.44.2 sees it as PC-6400 800MHz.

Secondly, when running at underclock 400MHz (by default in the BIOS), latency shows 5-5-5-15, as expected according to the spec. However, when running at stock 500MHz, latency gets worse to 5-7-7-23. I was surprised to find a better score on some benchmarks with 500MHz 5-7-7-23 than with 400MHz 5-5-5-15. Any reason why?

I'm very happy with my purchase by the way :).

thanks!
 
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Better scores are achieved with higher bandwith. Intel Cpus likes bandwith and doesnt depend so much on latency.

However you have to raise voltage to let the ram run at speed and latencys it is desired to.
Around 2.0-2.1v is given by mushkin to let the ram run@1066 with 5-5-5-12 as it should be.
Please go into bios and raise vddr2 by 0.3 and then set the timings and speed manually.
 

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nice one, thanks gR3iF !
 
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Jedec standard is 1.8v for 533,667 and 800+1066mhz. So if the ram needs more volt the board does not aplly this by default.
 

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Hi I have an EVGA 680i and seen reviews reguarding this ram working good with 680i chipset but that doesn't always mean the reference boards... Is this a good match and will it run advertised speed on my board? 2 GB Mushkin XP2 PC2-9200
 

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Hi,
Zebbo,
I was wondering if you could help with a quick compatibility check.

Thanks a lot in advance!
 
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hello hello

I have a little problem I belive with the memory controler

the "old" 9500 run very ok with the memory set in 1066 with 5-5-5-18 at 2.25v

but... went I put the new 9850 no OC.... I experience same slow down even instant restart with blue screen (on my vista x64) I run memory test from vista... and say memory problem...
ok . I set the memory on auto... and all run OK.

I mention that the memory is muskin 996580 default with 800mhz 4-4-4-12 2.0-2.1v

same how the phenom 9850 need a diferent memory timings ?
 

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Hi I have an EVGA 680i and seen reviews reguarding this ram working good with 680i chipset but that doesn't always mean the reference boards... Is this a good match and will it run advertised speed on my board? 2 GB Mushkin XP2 PC2-9200

Sorry for not answering sooner. Your motherboard would be best paired with a lower voltage kit. I recommend these. http://www.mushkin.com/doc/products/memory_detail.asp?id=656

I have seen them run upto 900Mhz 4-4-4-12 with rated 1.9v .

High memory frequency doesn't result in the best performance on 680i chipsets, running Linked memory mode with 1:1 fsb:ram normally does.
 

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Hi,
Zebbo,
I was wondering if you could help with a quick compatibility check.

Thanks a lot in advance!

Compatibility check for what? Your signature makes you seem like a bot btw.
 
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hello hello

I have a little problem I belive with the memory controler

the "old" 9500 run very ok with the memory set in 1066 with 5-5-5-18 at 2.25v

but... went I put the new 9850 no OC.... I experience same slow down even instant restart with blue screen (on my vista x64) I run memory test from vista... and say memory problem...
ok . I set the memory on auto... and all run OK.

I mention that the memory is muskin 996580 default with 800mhz 4-4-4-12 2.0-2.1v

same how the phenom 9850 need a diferent memory timings ?


CAS# Latency 4
1T-2T Command Timings 2T
twtr Command Delay 3 (2-3)
Write Recovery time 6 (3-6)
Precharge Time 3 (2-3)
Row cycle time 26 (18-26)
ras to cas R/W delay 4
Ras to RAS delay 3 (2-3)
Row Precharge Time 4
Minimum RAS Active Time 12

With below, lower later if stable.

TRFC0 FOR DIMM 1 192
TRFC2 FOR DIMM2 192
TRFC1 FOR DIMM3 192
TRFC3 FOR DIMM 4 192

If you still run into an issue, try using Un-ganaged memory mode, which would be 1 stick in each color slot.
 

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Zebbo or gdogg,

would the 2x2GB XP DDR2-1000 redline kit (996593) be a good match with the Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H / AMD Phenom? I'm not sure about the Phenom model yet. Does that make a difference for your recommendation? I read there was a bug in the TLB of some of the early Phenoms. The chips without the bug end in “50” like 9650 or 9750 so I'll be using one of those or a later model that ends in “50”. Thanks.


I just found out about the Ascent series. They're supposed to be even better. Would the Ascent 2x2GB DDR2-1000 work well? Thanks.
 
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Zebbo or gdogg,

would the 2x2GB XP DDR2-1000 redline kit (996593) be a good match with the Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H / AMD Phenom? I'm not sure about the Phenom model yet. Does that make a difference for your recommendation? I read there was a bug in the TLB of some of the early Phenoms. The chips without the bug end in “50” like 9650 or 9750 so I'll be using one of those or a later model that ends in “50”. Thanks.


I just found out about the Ascent series. They're supposed to be even better. Would the Ascent 2x2GB DDR2-1000 work well? Thanks.

If you want to overclock the fsb, then yes the 1000Mhz redlines/ascent's should work fine. If you don't want to overclock the fsb and only use the memory divider. I would have to recommend 800Mhz kit then.

Also, the newer phenoms have been showing to need timings manually adjusted even with jedec spec 800Mhz kit with your board for more then 1 stick to post. (From those upgrading, older to newer phenoms)
 

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If you want to overclock the fsb, then yes the 1000Mhz redlines/ascent's should work fine. If you don't want to overclock the fsb and only use the memory divider. I would have to recommend 800Mhz kit then.

So in order to get the RAM to operate at 1000MHz, I have to overclock the fsb to 1000MHz too and the fsb normally operates at 800 MHz? Do you know if the fsb on that board can be overclocked that much?

Also, the newer phenoms have been showing to need timings manually adjusted even with jedec spec 800Mhz kit with your board for more then 1 stick to post. (From those upgrading, older to newer phenoms)

I don't know what jedec is. I'm not upgrading from an older phenom to a newer one. It will be my first. Does that mean I won't have to manually adjust the timings because it's only for people upgrading from an older phenom?
 

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Memory Mushkin HP2-6400 2X2GB + XP XP2-8500 @ 800Mhz 4-4-4-10 2.1V , 1066 Strap
Video Card(s) Diamond HD2900XT 512MB
Storage 4 - Samsung Spinpoint 250GB SATA2 raid 0 , 2 - Seagate 7200.10 320GB raid 0
Display(s) Prima 32" 720p TV @ 1080p
Case CM Stacker 830 with all dust filters removed , 6 out of 8 120MM fan spots used
Audio Device(s) Onboard with Logitech Z-5300e speakers and Sennheiser HD 280 Pro Headphones
Power Supply Ultra X-Finity 800W Power Supply (won it from the christmas 3dgameman contest) Mushkin XP-650 Soon
Software Windows Vista X64
So in order to get the RAM to operate at 1000MHz, I have to overclock the fsb to 1000MHz too and the fsb normally operates at 800 MHz? Do you know if the fsb on that board can be overclocked that much?

I don't know what jedec is. I'm not upgrading from an older phenom to a newer one. It will be my first. Does that mean I won't have to manually adjust the timings because it's only for people upgrading from an older phenom?

250fsb vs the 200 default, since that will be ~1000Mhz, yes it can reach those speeds, but you need to adjust LTD divider and cpu to compensate for the overclocking of those

The old phenoms worked fine for a few customers using auto timings with the 5-5-5-18 800Mhz 1.8v (jedec spec)
After upgrading to the new phenom, it would only post with 1 stick installed, they had to go into the bios and manually adjust timings to my recommend to post using more then 1 stick of ram.
 
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