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Near-death experiences may be triggered by serotonin

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  1. qubit

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    Oh, but I thought NDE's were caused by the pearly gates of heaven reaching out to you? Oh well, no matter.

    As ever killing animals "in the name of science" was done in order to allegedly "research" this. :shadedshu :rolleyes:

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    Sorry to be slow and out of touch, but I see a lot of <3 lately and have no idea what it means?! :confused: :eek:
     
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    Many people that say like "OMG that is so brutal" forget that they would dislike it even more if humans were used for tests that are potentially unsafe.
    Think of the Nazis, they did it with concentration camp prisoners. And to make it worse none of the results are usable because of the way in which the tests were done (methodology).
     
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    So, basically if you take a whole bunch of extasy (MDMA) you will have a sweet NDE? I just wanted to touch everything and drink a lot of water.
     
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    Everything is biochemical.
     
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    fixed that for ya.

    Yep those were the days
     
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    I just fap until I lose consciousness and wake up glued to the bed and mildly thirsty.
     
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    That shit never did much for me. Uppers and such though, wowza. Brain chemistry, I guess.
     
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    I'd say that's inconclusive. They need to be monitoring someone's seratoinin and have that someone claim to experience a "near death experience" in order to connect the too. Just because seratonin spikes in the body before death doesn't necessarily mean there's any link to near death experiences. The body does all kinds of strange things on the brink of, and after, death. Thing is, most people don't experience near death experiences at all before/during dying. If I go by that parcel of information alone, I'd have to conclude it is not seratonin because 6/6 having the same biological response is too frequent.

    More likely, the release of seratonin is likely to make the process of death easier on the cortex so you relax instead of panic. If you panic, you're likely to exacerbate the problem leading to death thereby making matters worse, not better. As far as I know, seratonin has never been linked to those kinds of mental pictures either.

    In short, their conclusion doesn't make much sense.
     
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    LOL. There's not a whole lot of posts that make me laugh out loud in the office but this is one of them.

    :laugh:
     
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    When people take drugs, even the same drugs, not everyone experiences the same hallucination or visual or has a good trip.

    Likewise with serotonin, not everyone is expect to get the same reaction either. This could be why some experience the effect, while others don't.

    Speculation of course.
     
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    never once did i see the pearly gates whilst ravein!! mostly crackeds and raverbabes in hotpants and bikinis ;) ;)
     
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    Of course not. Your "speculation" is spot on. Differing brain chemistry (sensitivity and health of various receptors and neurons and such) is the reason.
     
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    I make a move to change MailMan's screenname to Count Fapula.

    Also, interesting article.
     
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    Milkman was funnier cause someone accidentally called him that in a post. :)
     
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    @op Yeah I've heard about this since 2002 I suppose or earlier :confused:
     
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    Oh god, that was funny! :laugh: An instant classic.

    No offence meant MM, I just think it's an awesome gag. :)
     
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    If I rub my eyes for about 20 seconds I start to see bright light (even in a dark room) so i've always thought the argument for the gates of heaven was a bit silly.
     
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    Than he is still Count Fapula (or is it nicknamed "milking" only when someone else is doing the work for the guy being fapped?).

    BTW, no offence to anyone intended./
     
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    Yeah that's just mechanically gated channels that are in your eyes. Pressure hits them, they change shape and release stimuli to the rods of the eyes (don't remember the stimuli exactly) but it causes just about anyone to see a bunch of amorphous shapes. Interestingly enough, you'll see the light on the opposite side of which you push on :eek:
     
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    I have heard of this only in Hollywood films
    Still, i think this is just a fairy tale
     
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    Would you trade all the medical advances made for all the bunnies, rats, pigs, and primates who have died for us to live?

    I wouldn't, and I think that experimenting on animals isn't cruel at all, but great, would it be better if your spouse, parent, child, friends all had to suffer through these tests? What about you, are you or would you be willing to suffer so that others can live or would you rather them suffer and die?
     
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