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I need some opinions on which computer to get. I don't really want anything over 500 and I don't want Acer or Toshiba because I hate the company's products. I want to stream and maybe play some PC games like Arma, Counter-Strike, Crysis 3, etc. I won't play a lot of PC games but I'll play 1 or 2 games. If you have suggestions of PCs that are better than these and 500 or less, please post a link. Thanks alot.

http://www.shopping.hp.com/en_US/ho...ilion/D6M02AV?HP-Pavilion-500-000t-Desktop-PC

http://www.shopping.hp.com/en_US/ho...n-20-b220t-All-in-One-Desktop-PC-ENERGY-STAR-

http://www.shopping.hp.com/en_US/ho...lion/D6M03AV?HP-Pavilion-500-010xt-Desktop-PC
 
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If you do intend on gaming, look for a PC with a dedicated graphics card, from what I see on those, it seems they use the integrated Intel graphics, and charge more for an upgraded dedicated card. And the dedicated ones offered as an upgrade are very weak graphics cards, made more for HTPC style operation than real gaming.
 
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Build your own most of the time you will get a better computer for the same or close to the same price
 
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Going DIY is the best money scenario, dude. That way, you have the fastest, most flexible, and compatible system for your bottom dollar.

On many occasions, I've learned that brands like HP and Dell cut corners for the sake of their profits. As a result, memory compatibility can become narrow and dependency on OEM parts can be high depending on the OEM machine you own. Worst yet, if you do anything 3rd party to an OEM machine, your warranty plan is a bust.

The benefit I gained from a DIY system the most is the fact that every component comes with their own warranty and concept. I have more choices, control, and value on my next upgrade every time I wanted one. As a result, I've had this rig for 5 years over the course of the CPU's life and have been satisfied by it's longevity ever since.
 
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HP sucks. As everybody else here said, build your own. It's easy, you can verify the quality of the components, and more flexible to upgrade down the road.
 
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Yeah yeah build your own and you will get better PC yadda yadda yadda. At least suggest one damnit!

CPU: AMD A10-5800K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A75 Pro4 ATX FM2 Motherboard ($85.97 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.04 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB Video Card ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $499.96

Most of the components are from Newegg, but you will get better prices at other retailers. Microcenter for example.

Edit: The reason why there is only one stick of RAM is so you can upgrade it to 16 GB next time.
 
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Yeah yeah build your own and you will get better PC yadda yadda yadda. At least suggest one damnit!

CPU: AMD A10-5800K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A75 Pro4 ATX FM2 Motherboard ($85.97 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.04 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB Video Card ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $499.96

Most of the components are from Newegg, but you will get better prices at other retailers. Microcenter for example.

Edit: The reason why there is only one stick of RAM is so you can upgrade it to 16 GB next time.
For the IGpu to really shine it needs faster memory,for 10$ he can get a 2133 kit.
G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 S...
No reason not to get 2x4gb because that mobo has 4 memory slots.
 
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I need some opinions on which computer to get. I don't really want anything over 500 and I don't want Acer or Toshiba because I hate the company's products. I want to stream and maybe play some PC games like Arma, Counter-Strike, Crysis 3, etc. I won't play a lot of PC games but I'll play 1 or 2 games. If you have suggestions of PCs that are better than these and 500 or less, please post a link. Thanks alot.

http://www.shopping.hp.com/en_US/ho...ilion/D6M02AV?HP-Pavilion-500-000t-Desktop-PC

http://www.shopping.hp.com/en_US/ho...n-20-b220t-All-in-One-Desktop-PC-ENERGY-STAR-

http://www.shopping.hp.com/en_US/ho...lion/D6M03AV?HP-Pavilion-500-010xt-Desktop-PC


None of these will be up to suff for those types of games ( well maybe CSO but definitely not Crysis 3). You can build your own for close to the same price and you will have a better chance meeting your goals.

My suggestion is save up a little bit longer for what you need and for what you will be happy with.

But if you insist on staying at that price (or something with a on board GPU) I would look at 4th gen intel or AMD APU with a better IGPU. Which would need decent memory to really take off. Something based off the AMD A10 6800K APU or something similar
 
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Yeah yeah build your own and you will get better PC yadda yadda yadda. At least suggest one damnit!

CPU: AMD A10-5800K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A75 Pro4 ATX FM2 Motherboard ($85.97 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.04 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB Video Card ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $499.96

Most of the components are from Newegg, but you will get better prices at other retailers. Microcenter for example.

Edit: The reason why there is only one stick of RAM is so you can upgrade it to 16 GB next time.

I'd go for an FX series CPU if you're putting a GPU in, probably an FX-6350.
 
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I'd go for an FX series CPU if you're putting a GPU in, probably an FX-6350.

I would do the same since there isn't many common apps and games that support multi-core yet. AMD seems more fitted for casual users anyway.
 
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Better for budget gaming rigs to start in the $600 range. If you scrounge for deals on the most of the non processor parts, you can put together something with a 660 GPU and Ivy quad CPU for that, and it will smoke anything mentioned so far.
 
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If it was be on this decision I focus on best single core performance when I plan builds for friends, that way you get the longest terms of compatibility for your system when it comes to focusing on just memory and graphics upgrades.

To be honest, start small but plan big.

Get the beefiest CPU you could get your hands on with a feature-filled ATX motherboard, preferably Intel since they offer SLI/Crossfire cross-compatibility. If your looking for a model recommendation it'll depend on how you want to use your PC feature-wise. I go for any motherboard that'll support Multi-GPU for the simple fact for performance per dollar.

As for your memory, for budget purposes, start at 4GB or 8GB if you are a power user since that seems to be enough for today's standards.

For video cards, grab an HD 7850 if you want to have a kick start on game compatibility, the 1GB if you use low-res (1600x900 or lower) or 2GB if you are a 1080p user. IF you feel the 7850's price is too much go after a feature-filled 7770 instead.

As for your case, go after something traditional but open ended, such as Antec. The Three Hundred cases have always been my favorite pitstop for a decent quality case under the $100 range. IF you feel the price is much look into Cooler Master if you feel to compromise. Keep in mind however that picking a quality case is extremely important if you want your system to last a long time.

Power supplies. Go after Corsair's CX series since for the cost they produce little jitter therefore producing very clean outputs for your PC. This is one of the components that get the most overlooked by OEM brands and is the component that fails the most in a PC. Rosewill is another choice if your seeking a good way to save some dollars. Never grab a generic PSU, my friend learned the hard way by having to replace his motherboard and CPU.

As for hard drives, their performance seems similar enough but the best value starters are Seagates 'cuda 12 series or Western Digital's Black series. To get the best bang for your buck, go 1TB as there's often a price jump after that. You can also grab a second hand hard drive as long as the diagnostics on them are green. SSDs are still changing rapidly so they aren't the way to go just yet.


As for your budget recommendations, if you seek a PC that'll last you 3 years easy the budget should be 700 in balance to today's games. If you wanna save money on the long run for a PC that's got 5 years of capable mileage itll be 1000 or over.
 
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OP, where your goal is hard to achieve is wanting to play a game like Crysis 3 with a $500 PC. Even if custom built with the best prices on parts that's a tall order. It CAN be done on that cheap a build with medium game settings, but the problem is you end up with a dual core CPU and compromising a lot of parts as far as future readiness, and even a lot of current games really need a quad core to perform well.

It's really worthwhile to save until you can afford more like $800 just for the tower hardware.

This is an example of a modern system using a 7870, and it's flexible enough to add another for top shelf performance. It comes to $858 after rebates.

CM HAF 912 $50
COOLER MASTER HAF 912 RC-912-KKN1 Black SECC/ ABS ...
ASUS DVD-RW $20
ASUS Model DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS 24X DVD Burner - Bu...
WD Black 1TB HDD $95
Western Digital WD Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 6...
XFX 80+ Bronze 750w PSU $60 (Haswell certified)
XFX P1-750X-XXB9 750W ATX12V 2.2 & ESP12V 2.91 SLI...
G Skill Ripjaws 8GB $73
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MSI 787-G41 $100
MSI Z87-G41 PC Mate LGA 1150 Intel Z87 HDMI SATA 6...
Intel i5-4670k $240
Intel Core i5-4670K Haswell 3.4GHz LGA 1150 84W Qu...
CM Hyper 212 Plus $20
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatp...
Sapphire 7870 Ghz Edition $200
SAPPHIRE 100354OC-2L Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2G...
 
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