Need help choosing a new monitor

[Rubnik]

Hello,
I'm planning on getting a new 24inch 60Hz monitor, mainly for 1080p gaming.Budget is around 200€, 250€ max if it's really worth the extra money.

So I need some help with what specs should I look for, LED or IPS panel (although most monitors i can find around my budget are LED), will DVI-D \ HDMI ports will provide better image quality than a standard DVI port? And as for the response time should i look for 2ms?

If its any help, my GPU is an MSI 770 gaming.I'm leaning towards some ASUS\BenQ monitors, like BENQ GL2450HM or ASUS VE247H because they seem like better brands but I don't mind other brands as well.

If you can suggest any monitors around my budget, or some general guidelines on what should i look for, that would be great

 

[shovenose]

I would not recommend BenQ monitors.
Personally I prefer Samsung and Dell monitors.
ASUS is probably good as well from what I've heard but I have no experience with their monitors.

Just bought three new 23" Samsung LED monitors. I'm sad that I didn't get IPS and would highly recommend getting an IPS LED LCD Monitor.

DVI and HDMI are digitally compatible. Just don't use VGA.

Resolution wise 1080P is boring. If you can go for 1920x1200 or 2560x1440 you'll be much more satisfied, and your GPU is good enough to power that kind of monitor.

Hope that helps,
shovenose

 

[Animalpak]

DVI si better than any HDMI but doesnt matter because you will play at 60hz.

Only if you get 120hz LED 3D monitor you must use the DVI connections.

For 60hz monitor 5ms are fine. You play at 1920x1080 like me and your GPU is fine too !

The choices you mentions are great i suggest for the Benq personally.

 

[buildzoid]

I have experience with 3 ASUS monitors 2 IPS and one TN and my only complaint is that I needed to re-balance the RGBs on my 2560x1080 because the red was washed out. as far as I'm concerned 5ms GTG is just fine. The one TN I have is 1920x1080 color wise it was perfect but viewing angles were a catastrophy probably because it was the cheapest ASUS 22" I could find.

 

[Rubnik]

I've seen the ASUS VE248H being reccomended on many videos\guides but I hear it has some ghosting issues.Anyone know about this?

 

[Aquinus]

I have 3 of these at home, and I use one at work. IPS is definitely the way to go and Dell makes a good display.
Dell S2340M Black 23" 7ms (GTG) Widescreen LED Bac...

I got mine on sale though for 145 USD each, which was a steal.

Resolution wise 1080P is boring. If you can go for 1920x1200 or 2560x1440 you'll be much more satisfied, and your GPU is good enough to power that kind of monitor.

1080P is fine for 23-24". It's not "boring", it's normal. The panel will make more of a difference than those pixels will IMHO.

 

[Aithos]

If you are looking for a 24" monitor to game on you will want a 120hz 1080p monitor. Do not get an IPS, do not get a 60hz, do not settle for anything less than 120hz. With your graphics card and reasonable settings you should easily be able to hit 120 fps in most games and the additional smoothness will blow you away. Even if you can't hit 120 frames the monitor is still refreshing twice as fast and will appear more smooth than a 60hz.

I would personally suggest either Asus or Samsung models, ones with Lightboost are even better for gaming because you can "hack" the monitor to use lightboost even when not using 3d which strobes the backlight and virtually eliminates motion blur. The result is that you get an LCD monitor that gives picture quality like a CRT.

Check out this one: http://www.amazon.co_uk/dp/B00B19T7QC/?tag=tec053-21

It's a little more than your max, but honestly at 275 it is the best gaming monitor you can buy right now hands down.

If you don't care as much about gaming and want picture quality a TN panel (all 120hz native) is not your best bet. IPS panels are amazing for color and picture clarity (often 1440p) but they frequently have major input lag and their refresh speed is usually 8ms or higher. For gaming the only IPS panels to consider are QNIX QX2710 and Yamasaki Catleap 2b which are both overclockable and can *sometimes* hit 120hz...essentially giving you 1440p resolution AND 120hz.

It's a gamble though, not all panels overclock well and at that resolution you really need two graphics cards because you are running well above 1080p. Not to mention no realy warranty support, the possibility of severe backlight bleed, dead pixels and shoddy frames/stands is like playing the lottery.

My advice is to get the Asus I linked and don't look back. I've played semi-professionally in several FPS games, and I've been a hardcore MMORPG player over the years and for gaming your refresh rate is king.

 

[Aithos]

Also, I forgot to mention in my last post: pretty much all the monitors TN and IPS will be LED backlit. There is no difference between LCD and LED, LCD refers to the type of screen and LED refers to the type of backlight. Old LCDs used fluorescent lighting, newer LCDs use LED lighting. IPS and TN refer to the type of panel itself. So you could have an LED IPS LCD for instance...that tells you all three meaningful pieces (backlight, panel, screen).

Computer monitors are all LCD as far as I am aware, Plasma screens are pretty much only in TVs because of the way the screens refresh. They don't refresh in the same manner as an LCD screen and so meaningful comparisons between them are hard to make. Generally for TV and Movies Plasma screens are superior in picture quality, for computing though they aren't very smooth due to how the picture is generated.

In case I didn't make this very clear in my last post: DO NOT BUY AN IPS FOR GAMING. Most of them have significant input lag (processing done by the PCB before the signal is displayed on your screen) This is different than refresh rate on the pixels. If you have input lag it will always mean your movements are lagged no matter how fast the monitor refreshes or the pixels can change.

The Korean panels use a specific PCB that generally only has a dual link DVI, it is called a bypass board and does no extra processing on the input so that they are the only IPS panels I know of that do not have significant input lag. This is why you never see anyone overclocking a Dell or Apple display even though they use the same panel.

 

[Gavin]

If you are looking for a 24" monitor to game on you will want a 120hz 1080p monitor. Do not get an IPS, do not get a 60hz, do not settle for anything less than 120hz. With your graphics card and reasonable settings you should easily be able to hit 120 fps in most games and the additional smoothness will blow you away. Even if you can't hit 120 frames the monitor is still refreshing twice as fast and will appear more smooth than a 60hz.

I would personally suggest either Asus or Samsung models, ones with Lightboost are even better for gaming because you can "hack" the monitor to use lightboost even when not using 3d which strobes the backlight and virtually eliminates motion blur. The result is that you get an LCD monitor that gives picture quality like a CRT.

Check out this one: http://www.amazon.co_uk/dp/B00B19T7QC/?tag=tec053-21

It's a little more than your max, but honestly at 275 it is the best gaming monitor you can buy right now hands down.

If you don't care as much about gaming and want picture quality a TN panel (all 120hz native) is not your best bet. IPS panels are amazing for color and picture clarity (often 1440p) but they frequently have major input lag and their refresh speed is usually 8ms or higher. For gaming the only IPS panels to consider are QNIX QX2710 and Yamasaki Catleap 2b which are both overclockable and can *sometimes* hit 120hz...essentially giving you 1440p resolution AND 120hz.

It's a gamble though, not all panels overclock well and at that resolution you really need two graphics cards because you are running well above 1080p. Not to mention no realy warranty support, the possibility of severe backlight bleed, dead pixels and shoddy frames/stands is like playing the lottery.

My advice is to get the Asus I linked and don't look back. I've played semi-professionally in several FPS games, and I've been a hardcore MMORPG player over the years and for gaming your refresh rate is king.

Also, I forgot to mention in my last post: pretty much all the monitors TN and IPS will be LED backlit. There is no difference between LCD and LED, LCD refers to the type of screen and LED refers to the type of backlight. Old LCDs used fluorescent lighting, newer LCDs use LED lighting. IPS and TN refer to the type of panel itself. So you could have an LED IPS LCD for instance...that tells you all three meaningful pieces (backlight, panel, screen).

Computer monitors are all LCD as far as I am aware, Plasma screens are pretty much only in TVs because of the way the screens refresh. They don't refresh in the same manner as an LCD screen and so meaningful comparisons between them are hard to make. Generally for TV and Movies Plasma screens are superior in picture quality, for computing though they aren't very smooth due to how the picture is generated.

In case I didn't make this very clear in my last post: DO NOT BUY AN IPS FOR GAMING. Most of them have significant input lag (processing done by the PCB before the signal is displayed on your screen) This is different than refresh rate on the pixels. If you have input lag it will always mean your movements are lagged no matter how fast the monitor refreshes or the pixels can change.

The Korean panels use a specific PCB that generally only has a dual link DVI, it is called a bypass board and does no extra processing on the input so that they are the only IPS panels I know of that do not have significant input lag. This is why you never see anyone overclocking a Dell or Apple display even though they use the same panel.

Please don't double post. There is a edit button to save on double posts.


I would like to provide my 2 cents on Samsung and Asus being great monitors.

I had a Samsung V sync that i loved and now have an Asus 27 inch that's treated me well for the past 2 years. However, they are both 60hz and my next upgrade will be to a 120hz, most likely something along the lines of http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX44025.

 

[Aithos]

Please don't double post. There is a edit button to save on double posts.


I would like to provide my 2 cents on Samsung and Asus being great monitors.

I had a Samsung V sync that i loved and now have an Asus 27 inch that's treated me well for the past 2 years. However, they are both 60hz and my next upgrade will be to a 120hz, most likely something along the lines of http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX44025.

I was going to edit but the second post ended up long enough that I didn't want an even larger wall of text. It is also mostly about a different subject (informational in nature) and doesn't really related to my recommendation.

It's pretty rude for you to focus on something so minor after I took the time to write them. There is no harm whatsoever in how I posted, I'd suggest you stay on topic and worry about the OP and not me.

 

[Rubnik]

Well the Asus monitor is kinda 100-150€ over my budget (costs about ~350€ here) but i'll think about saving for it.
What about the ASUS VG23AH since it's just sliiightly over my budget? It has an IPS panel, but ASUS advertises it as a gaming monitor. Or for that matter, is there any 23" 120 Hz monitor around that price?

 

[Aithos]

Well the Asus monitor is kinda 100-150€ over my budget (costs about ~350€ here) but i'll think about saving for it.
What about the ASUS VG23AH since it's just sliiightly over my budget? It has an IPS panel, but ASUS advertises it as a gaming monitor. Or for that matter, is there any 23" 120 Hz monitor around that price?

That monitor is not really a gaming monitor, it advertises 3D but is not true 3D because it isn't capable of doing 120hz. Basically, that monitor has a conversion algorithm in it that converts 2D to pseudo-3D, it doesn't work very well. Otherwise it's a very cheap IPS panel and I honestly wouldn't recommend it.

Where are you located? It is hard for me to look at pricing for you without knowing because I was looking at prices for the US and the UK. The Asus I linked you (VG248QE) is $266 in the US and $275 pounds in the UK. $266 in USD is 196 euros, so that's considerably less than the conversion from pounds to euros if you can order from the US amazon. However, I have no idea what shipping would be so you'd have to look into it.

Here is the US link if you want to look: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B2HH7G0/?tag=tec06d-20

Otherwise there aren't going to be many 120hz monitors lower in price than that. $266 is a pretty bargain price for a nice monitor, I would do some research and see who sells it in your area and if you can find a better price.

 

[AlienIsGOD]

It's pretty rude for you to focus on something so minor after I took the time to write them.

Mods frown on double posting and the time it takes to clean up these posts, its just good forum manners to abide by the forum rules