Need Help to OC CPU ...

[rahulyo]

Hi friends I need ur help to OC my CPU . I have Intel E4500 + Biostar TP I45 mobo (BIOS of this mobo is totally different from others).Transcend DDR2 2Gb 800MHz RAM.

CPUz Screen shot :-

I am really noob about OCing.

 

[2DividedbyZero]

so you have 1x2Gb stick of RAM?

 

[rahulyo]

Bios settings (All value Default) :-

In Advanced Tab -
CPU Configuration:-

C1E Support - Enable
Hardware prefetcher - Enable
Adjacet Cache Line Prefetch - Enable
Max CPUID Value Limit - Diable
CPU TM Function - Enable
Execute Disable-Bit Capability - Enable
Core-Multi Processing - Enable
Intel(R) C-STATE Tech - Enable

In O.N.E Tab -

Overclocking Navigator -Manual
Intel Speedstep tech - Disable
Ratio CMOS setting - X11.0
CPU Freqency Setting - 200
Overclock Retry Cout - 3
FSB(Bsel) to NorthBridge Latch - Auto
FSB Compesation Finetune - Disable
DRAM Frequency - Auto
Enhance Mode - Auto

DRAM Timing Config. -

DRAM RCOMP Configuration - Auto
Static tREAD Value (PL)-Auto
Cofigure DRAM timing by SPD - Enable
Extra DRAM timing setting - Auto

Clock Gen Config -

PCIE Frequency Setting - 100
CPU clock skew control - Auto
(G) MCH Clock skew control - Auto
CPU Driving control - Auto

Voltage Config -

CPU Voltage - Auto
DDR Voltage -Auto
Chipset Voltage - Auto
FSB voltage - Auto
CPU core 1,2GTL Ref Voltage - 0.63*VTT
CPU core 2 GTL Ref Voltage - 0.67*VTT
MCH GTL Ref Voltage - Auto
CPU PLL Voltage - 1.5V

cpu voltage-1.288v
NB/SB Voltage - 1.096v
DDR Voltage - 1.8172V
FSB Voltage - 1.176v

 

[rahulyo]

so you have 1x2Gb stick of RAM?

Yes only 1x2Gb RAM ...

 

[2DividedbyZero]

tbh, it is dual channel ram, so 1 stick is gonna cripple you straight away.

Also go into you ram advanced settings in the BIOS and manually set the figures to 4-4-4-12, the BIOS is setting 6-6-6-15 for some crazy reasons? Have you ever tried the setting the BIOS to optimum defaults on the first page i think it is?

 

[rahulyo]

I reset BIOS ,all settings are at Default ...

 

[Mussels]

that image is loading way too slow. please re-upload it at www.techpowerup.org


try raising your FSB from 200Mhz to 266Mhz, and watch your ram speed - make sure it doesnt go above or below 800Mhz (400Mhz in CPU-Z) - this would be the "DRAM Frequency - Auto" option.

 

[Zubasa]

tbh, it is dual channel ram, so 1 stick is gonna cripple you straight away.

Also go into you ram advanced settings in the BIOS and manually set the figures to 4-4-4-12, the BIOS is setting 6-6-6-15 for some crazy reasons? Have you ever tried the setting the BIOS to optimum defaults on the first page i think it is?

Not crazy reason at all, the original Jedec timing for DDR2 800 was something like 6-6-6-18
It has been CL6 for a long time now, just that faster ram have been released doesn't mean the bios is crazy.

 

[Mussels]

actually, so that we know what timings his ram SHOULD be using, he needs to show us a screenshot of the SPD tab in CPU-Z.

telling him to set 4-4-4-12 is just stupid, if his ram cant handle it (or requires higher voltage to run it)

 

[rahulyo]

Here is SPD screen shot :-

 

[Zubasa]

The easiest way I see it is to set the FSB to 400 and lower the CPU multi to 8x.
Set the FSBRAM ratio at 1:2.
Make sure C1E and SpeedStep are all off before you do this.
This should be a good place to start.

Edit: Just in case, make sure you know how to reset your bios if your PC doesn't boot.

 

[rahulyo]

I know about reset Bios ...

I just need step by step instructions for OCing my CPU ...

 

[Zubasa]

Bios settings (All value Default) :-

In Advanced Tab -
CPU Configuration:-

C1E Support - Enable
Hardware prefetcher - Enable
Adjacet Cache Line Prefetch - Enable
Max CPUID Value Limit - Diable
CPU TM Function - Enable
Execute Disable-Bit Capability - Enable
Core-Multi Processing - Enable
Intel(R) C-STATE Tech - Enable

In O.N.E Tab -

Overclocking Navigator -Manual
Intel Speedstep tech - Disable
Ratio CMOS setting - X11.0
CPU Freqency Setting - 200
Overclock Retry Cout - 3
FSB(Bsel) to NorthBridge Latch - Auto
FSB Compesation Finetune - Disable
DRAM Frequency - Auto
Enhance Mode - Auto

DRAM Timing Config. -

DRAM RCOMP Configuration - Auto
Static tREAD Value (PL)-Auto
Cofigure DRAM timing by SPD - Enable
Extra DRAM timing setting - Auto

Clock Gen Config -

PCIE Frequency Setting - 100
CPU clock skew control - Auto
(G) MCH Clock skew control - Auto
CPU Driving control - Auto

Voltage Config -

CPU Voltage - Auto
DDR Voltage -Auto
Chipset Voltage - Auto
FSB voltage - Auto
CPU core 1,2GTL Ref Voltage - 0.63*VTT
CPU core 2 GTL Ref Voltage - 0.67*VTT
MCH GTL Ref Voltage - Auto
CPU PLL Voltage - 1.5V

cpu voltage-1.288v
NB/SB Voltage - 1.096v
DDR Voltage - 1.8172V
FSB Voltage - 1.176v

Set Ratio CMOS setting to 8.0x
CPU Freqency Setting to 400
DRAM Frequency - makes sure it is 1:2 or something that results in 800Mhz
A conroe should be able to get to at 3.2Ghz @ that stock voltage

 

[rahulyo]

Doing that PC wont boot ...

 

[JrRacinFan]

Bios settings (All value Default) :-

In Advanced Tab -
CPU Configuration:-

C1E Support - Enable
Hardware prefetcher - Enable
Adjacet Cache Line Prefetch - Enable
Max CPUID Value Limit - Diable
CPU TM Function - Enable
Execute Disable-Bit Capability - Enable
Core-Multi Processing - Enable
Intel(R) C-STATE Tech - Enable

In O.N.E Tab -

Overclocking Navigator -Manual
Intel Speedstep tech - Disable
Ratio CMOS setting - X11.0
CPU Freqency Setting - 200
Overclock Retry Cout - 3
FSB(Bsel) to NorthBridge Latch - 1333
FSB Compesation Finetune - Disable
DRAM Frequency - Auto
Enhance Mode - Auto

DRAM Timing Config. -

DRAM RCOMP Configuration - Auto
Static tREAD Value (PL)-Auto
Cofigure DRAM timing by SPD - Enable
Extra DRAM timing setting - Auto

Clock Gen Config -

PCIE Frequency Setting - 100
CPU clock skew control - Auto
(G) MCH Clock skew control - Auto
CPU Driving control - Auto

Voltage Config -

CPU Voltage - Auto
DDR Voltage -Auto
Chipset Voltage - Auto
FSB voltage - Auto
CPU core 1,2GTL Ref Voltage - 0.63*VTT
CPU core 2 GTL Ref Voltage - 0.67*VTT
MCH GTL Ref Voltage - Auto
CPU PLL Voltage - 1.5V

cpu voltage-1.288v
NB/SB Voltage - 1.096v
DDR Voltage - 1.8172V
FSB Voltage - 1.176v

Try this out:

Overclocking Navigator -Manual
Intel Speedstep tech - Disable
Ratio CMOS setting - x10 bring this down to 9x if you BSOD
CPU Freqency Setting - 333
Overclock Retry Cout - 3
FSB(Bsel) to NorthBridge Latch - Auto
FSB Compesation Finetune - Disable
DRAM Frequency - 667 or 1:1
Enhance Mode - Auto

CPU Voltage - 1.4v
DDR Voltage -1.9v
Chipset Voltage - 1.15v or a small touch above
FSB voltage - 1.2v
CPU core 1,2GTL Ref Voltage - 0.63*VTT
CPU core 2 GTL Ref Voltage - 0.67*VTT
MCH GTL Ref Voltage - Auto
CPU PLL Voltage - 1.5

C1E Support - Disable
Hardware prefetcher - Enable
Adjacet Cache Line Prefetch - Enable
Max CPUID Value Limit - Diable
CPU TM Function - Disable
Execute Disable-Bit Capability - Disable
Core-Multi Processing - Enable
Intel(R) C-STATE Tech - Enable


With these settings you should then be able to start working on fine tuning your fsb.

DRAM RCOMP Configuration - Auto
Static tREAD Value (PL)-Auto
Cofigure DRAM timing by SPD - Disable -Once disabled you should be able to set the following timings

5-5-5-18 tRC-25
I know they are loose right now but we are eliminating the ram out of the equation for the overclock.

Extra DRAM timing setting - Auto

 

[rahulyo]

CPU Voltage - 1.4v
DDR Voltage -1.9v
Chipset Voltage - 1.15v or a small touch above
FSB voltage - 1.2v

I don't understand how to set this settings ??? In bracket settings are given in Auto,- 0.50v and + 0.700 vformat ...

 

[Zubasa]

CPU Voltage - 1.4v
DDR Voltage -1.9v
Chipset Voltage - 1.15v or a small touch above
FSB voltage - 1.2v

I don't understand how to set this settings ??? In bracket settings are given in Auto,- 0.50v and + 0.700 vformat ...

Well for example your default CPU voltage is 1.288v, adding 0.12V will give you about 1.4v

Edit:

Doing that PC wont boot ...

For that I am sorry, I forgot that the conore is a 65nm chip and require more voltage than 45nm chips that we are used to.

 

[JrRacinFan]

Well for example your default CPU voltage is 1.288v, adding 0.12V will give you about 1.4v

Unless it's a percentage based like DFI's CPU Special Add. If it is do whatever results in as close to 1.4v as possible.

 

[rahulyo]

Well for example your default CPU voltage is 1.288v, adding 0.12V will give you about 1.4v

Ohh now i understand ...

 

[JrRacinFan]

Oh also, FSB to NB Latch set it to 1333 if you can.

 

[Zubasa]

Post back your results, right now I am busy wrestling with this.

 

[rahulyo]

Try this out:

Overclocking Navigator -Manual
Intel Speedstep tech - Disable
Ratio CMOS setting - x10 bring this down to 9x if you BSOD
CPU Freqency Setting - 333
Overclock Retry Cout - 3
FSB(Bsel) to NorthBridge Latch - Auto
FSB Compesation Finetune - Disable
DRAM Frequency - 667 or 1:1
Enhance Mode - Auto

CPU Voltage - 1.4v
DDR Voltage -1.9v
Chipset Voltage - 1.15v or a small touch above
FSB voltage - 1.2v
CPU core 1,2GTL Ref Voltage - 0.63*VTT
CPU core 2 GTL Ref Voltage - 0.67*VTT
MCH GTL Ref Voltage - Auto
CPU PLL Voltage - 1.5

C1E Support - Disable
Hardware prefetcher - Enable
Adjacet Cache Line Prefetch - Enable
Max CPUID Value Limit - Diable
CPU TM Function - Disable
Execute Disable-Bit Capability - Disable
Core-Multi Processing - Enable
Intel(R) C-STATE Tech - Enable


With these settings you should then be able to start working on fine tuning your fsb.

DRAM RCOMP Configuration - Auto
Static tREAD Value (PL)-Auto
Cofigure DRAM timing by SPD - Disable -Once disabled you should be able to set the following timings

5-5-5-18 tRC-25
I know they are loose right now but we are eliminating the ram out of the equation for the overclock.

Extra DRAM timing setting - Auto

I do settings what u suggest but get some strange problem ,after boot and before OS load i get below msg :

TRAP000030================ Exception ===============================

tr-FFF Cr0-00000 .....

... bla bla bla


like that ...

And i also not found tRC settings ...

FSB to NB Latch -1333

 

[JrRacinFan]

I do settings what u suggest but get some strange problem ,after boot and before OS load i get below msg :

TRAP000030================ Exception ===============================

tr-FFF Cr0-00000 .....

... bla bla bla


like that ...

And i also not found tRC settings ...

FSB to NB Latch -1333

Ok, BSOD. Have you tried the 9x multi? Same results?

 

[rahulyo]

Ok, BSOD. Have you tried the 9x multi? Same results?

Is it BSOD ??? I don't know bout this .No i Not tried 9x multi . Wait some time i will check and tell u ...

Edit :-

I set Multi to 9x system boot fine,OS loaded.Now i check stability using Orthos ...

 

[JrRacinFan]

Is it BSOD ??? I don't know bout this .No i Not tried 9x multi . Wait some time i will check and tell u ...

Edit :-

I set Multi to 9x system boot fine,OS loaded.Now i check stability using Orthos ...

9x multi with settings above should give you 3Ghz with 667mhz ram. Want to give us a cpuz screenshot?

also try out tpu capture utility for your screenshots. www.techpowerup.com/tpucapture